A WARNING from Inuit People: Sun Wrong, Stars Wrong, Earth Tilting On Axis!

reply to post by Bordon81


Reading threads is akin to wading through teenage angst. If their teachers knew what a mess they are leaving these kids in they would just bin the curriculum bar the exams . But the fascists would shred them if they refused the oath : is this not defined by the dictionary? Off by heart they know the words they say , but not what they mean. No wonder there is garbage committed to type . The average user has amental age of what - 12? They expect msm to confirm this.. ahem

I can't let this one go without a reply.
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
I've lived in my house for 10 years now, and my house faces north. Ever since I moved in, sometime in the 2nd week of May, the sunlight would cause havoc on my garage door sensors. This year, it happened the exact same as it has the past 10 years.

My conclusion: Everything is the same as it has been.

Have you ever hunted in an area where if you screw up you are sure to die?
You have a ten year experience with a wonky garage, these people in the video have lived there all their
lives and you have the gall to claim that your 10 years living with your garage makes your statement ring true?
Every body in the video was at least 50 years old and probably a lot more than that.
This whole statement defies logic...........

If You want to die please come up here, and hell yes bring your precious garage with the wonky opener if you like.
Regards, Iwinder

Originally posted by ZIPMATT


How exactly could hobby astronomers raise hell?

Imagine instead of a few hundred ignorant ATSers there were hundreds of thousands of people in every country in the world looking at the skies every day ..... which there are.

As it stands, we have to asume that they are all totally ignorant and haven't noticed stars rising and setting in the wrong place, Or they are all part of the conspiracy.

What is more likely? You been conned? Or millions of people are involved in a conspiracy and only you are not in it?

Originally posted by Essan

Originally posted by ZIPMATT


How exactly could hobby astronomers raise hell?

Imagine instead of a few hundred ignorant ATSers there were hundreds of thousands of people in every country in the world looking at the skies every day ..... which there are.

As it stands, we have to asume that they are all totally ignorant and haven't noticed stars rising and setting in the wrong place, Or they are all part of the conspiracy.

What is more likely? You been conned? Or millions of people are involved in a conspiracy and only you are not in it?

None of this answers the question I posed . How will these 'millions' then 'raise hell'? By ringing up the News Of The World? How?

edit on 9-7-2011 by ZIPMATT because: (no reason given)

reply to post by ZIPMATT


So now your claim is that this phenomena is completely isolated to the regions of the arctic populated by the Inuit?

Do you not see how your lionization of the words of a handful of elderly inuit is racist? They arent magical people. They arent the only people aware of the movements of the sun and moon. Perhaps you live in a video game world and have no comprehension of the movements of the stars, but those are abilities and tendencies not solely belonging to a handful of elderly 'Inuit', no matter how much you try and Pocahantas them into some magical native shaman.

To discount ALL OTHER EVIDENCE in favor of a few people because of their race is racist. Think about it. Inuit arent more 'in tune' than a farmer in Illinois, or a Hunter in Norway.

You appear only interested in one possible sensational conclusion that refutes science (which is all conspiring against you). IF you step back and try and cross reference some of your assumptions, you will expand your understanding of the issue.

Originally posted by ZIPMATT


None of this answers the question I posed . How will these 'millions' then 'raise hell'? By ringing up the News Of The World? How?

Good point. The relative handful of amateur astronomers around the world not bought off by George Soros and the Lizard people are likely unaware of how to use such complex technologies as internet forums or youtube videos or blogs.

www.astronomyforum.net...

www.cloudynights.com...

Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by ZIPMATT

 

So now your claim is that this phenomena is completely isolated to the regions of the arctic populated by the Inuit?

Do you not see how your lionization of the words of a handful of elderly inuit is racist? They arent magical people. They arent the only people aware of the movements of the sun and moon. Perhaps you live in a video game world and have no comprehension of the movements of the stars, but those are abilities and tendencies not solely belonging to a handful of elderly 'Inuit', no matter how much you try and Pocahantas them into some magical native shaman.

To discount ALL OTHER EVIDENCE in favor of a few people because of their race is racist. Think about it. Inuit arent more 'in tune' than a farmer in Illinois, or a Hunter in Norway.

You appear only interested in one possible sensational conclusion that refutes science (which is all conspiring against you). IF you step back and try and cross reference some of your assumptions, you will expand your understanding of the issue.

Ok so now you are calling me a racist . That's where the discussion ends m8. You lost , just swallow it .Goodbye.

I am wondering if this may be the reason some are saying the sun is off, because it's really the earth that is off.

As I sit here in my prison of an apartment complex, as I have for the past 7 years, the 6 o'clock July sun squeezes in through the cracks in the two buildings in front of mine and glares directly through my back patio--causing a good deal of frustration for me. The apartment warms up and both my laptop and TV reflect the sunspot making them difficult to read.

It has done this practically every day of every summer as long as I've lived here. We've gone through numerous sunblinds that continue to degrade and break down.

I think things are where they should be. Nothing out of the ordinary here...

Just a little input, be well my friends!

reply to post by ZIPMATT


I'm sorry you are unable to face the obvious, or at the very least, present a reasonable argument in your defense.

But pretending the Inuit have some sort of magical knowledge solely because of their race is, well, racist. What makes these people's recollections of the past more credible than any other source?

reply to post by OccamAssassin


The earth is Expanding heres the linkyoutu.be...

wayyyyyyy before any of us started talking about this phenomenon, I described myself as a person who was very sensitive to the angle of the sun. In fact, I felt as though I could 'relate' to migratory birds, etc. as the sun and it's angles have always played very very strongly in my life. I can find my direction anywhere if lost by the angle of the sun.

Anyhow...we farm full time and live in the country. I follow the seasons, the wild plants, the animals and their young, the hatching of insects, the laying of eggs, etc. You get the picture. Something is off with the sun. Period.

Last week I rose extra early to milk as I had to be to an appt. in town...I looked up and the sun was rising in a completely different spot than I had ever seen at this time of year. I stopped in my tracks and felt 'off'...I swear, I felt like I was on a different planet or something.

The sun has been setting in a far northwest direction that usually streams in the old windows in our house sometime late in September.

And, the angle/heat/light of the sun is whiter and hotter than ever. I am dark skinned and tan easily. I am darker this year than ever before and yet have spent no more or less time outside than I usually do. Also, I never like to wear sunglasses. Can't stand them. I feel like I have a fog over my eyes when wearing them. This year, I had to break down and buy a cheap pair...can't take the sunlight.

I believe the Inuit. They are intuitive land people...why would they not tell the truth. I believe them wholeheartedly...I do. What are these times we live in?

EDIT: Look at my user name if you don't believe I am affected by the sun and it's angle.

reply to post by DrJay1975


Well scary or not I would nopt put much faith in your neighbors short memory. It has snowed 17 times in New Orleans since 1850...not much but it does snow....thats in 14 seasons so more than once in a couple of years. As much snow as 4.5 inches in 1963 and over an inch in 2008.

wiki.answers.com...

Originally posted by solsticks


I believe the Inuit. They are intuitive land people...why would they not tell the truth. I believe them wholeheartedly...I do. What are these times we live in?

Intuitive land people?

Again, if you are unable to see the latent racism in that statement, you need to go back to go, dont collect 200 dollars...

reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly


I felt the same way. These people live by the seasons. It would be great if someone could double check the wording to see if it translates the way it is shown on the video.

I would love to hear more about the native Inuits and their take on climate change, polar meltdowns, hunting, and all the other natural phenomena happening as well as their take on it all, I think they have been underestimated for far too long and just may have something of significance to bring to the table. I agree with what they have said in the OP and it validates what I have personally witnessed as well.

Originally posted by Buford2
reply to post by Wobbly Anomaly

 

I felt the same way. These people live by the seasons. It would be great if someone could double check the wording to see if it translates the way it is shown on the video.

Or you could read one of the several articles on this very subject over the years...

www.theglobeandmail.com...

or maybe the movie made about it...

www.isuma.tv...

why do people think info presented in an ATS thread is the only source? Do your own research.

reply to post by incrediblelousminds

Yeah! More research!
Like I said before, the changes the Inuit are talking about are not the result of a shift in the Earth's axis. As pointed out by Chadwickus, the movie is about climate change. The shifting of the sky is, in effect, a mirage. Caused by warm air moving northward. Here is what the maker of the movie says:

This is an example of the massive visual shift that elders across the north have observed, leading them to each conclude that the earth has tilted.

When we explained this to climate scientists, including researchers working at NASA, most had never heard of such an observation before. However, all the scientists indicated that a physical tilt of the earth was impossible, and could not have happened the way our elder Augustine described. So, like an unfolding mystery, we went back to the drawing board to learn more about what might be causing this observation.

Wayne Davidson, a weather scientist and meteorological observer working Resolute Bay, helped solve the problem. In the late 1990s, Wayne also began to notice a change with the sun. He, like the elders we have documented, saw that the sun was moving southward. And, based on his scientific understanding and discussions with local Inuit, began documenting and better understanding this "low altitude refraction". In the video clip posted in this blog, Wayne describes how the sun changing its position in the sky - moving consistently in one direction - is actually a metric to measure anthropogenic, or human caused, climate change.

www.isuma.tv...

You are now free to turn this into a discussion of climate change, anthropogenic or otherwise.

reply to post by Phage


would this cause the extra hour of sunlight they
were talking about in the film?