It's official. I found proof online that Obama was born in Hawaii just like he says he was. Newspap

Originally posted by MensaDude
reply to post by Kitilani

 

I have yet to see any video of this newspaper clipping, showing someone zooming in on the microfiche display, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this clipping even exists. I've looked for such a video.

AS I SAID, this would be so easy to check. Just go to Hawaii, go to the library and ask to see it. Are you saying that not one birther, even Orly has done this one simple thing?

I'm only trying to demonstrate that all this 'proof' that he was definitely born in Hawaii, or that his birth certificate is or isn't definitely forged, truly isn't 'proof' at all. With today's technology, all if it can be forged. I, unfortunately, don't trust this administration to tell me the truth. Even more unfortunate, I don't trust most of the media outlets to tell me the truth either.

I do not trust random names on a forum and your forgery was piss poor wasn't it? All I did was change the contrast a little and it is loaded with jpeg compression. Who the hell would accept that as anything? Oh, right anyone that does not care enough to just check in Hawaii.

More to my ultimate point, whether this president is an American citizen or not is, at this time, irrelevant. Inarguable proof of his citizenship, or lack thereof, will never be created or found. He's going to serve out his first term and run for a second. I will not vote for this man because I do not trust him, nor do I believe his policies are good for America.

That is a whole other topic. The problem is that he actually has proven that he was born in Hawaii. If you want to take the "anything is possible" stance then I need to know why you are not questioning the same of even one GOP candidate?

Yet, this will not stop those trying to prove or disprove his citizenship, regardless of how much of a losing battle it is.

You are right there. Nothing will stop them from posting old rumors, bad lies, and pointless questions in their quest to invalidate the man because apparently that is far easier or more fun than attacking him on his job performance.

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Here is my reply.

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"I'm your father, Luke... er, I mean Barak"

What is the official White House comment on the color filters?

Has anyone posed it to their mouthpeices?

Originally posted by KnightFire
Also, 99% of all men from Kenya have a distinct bumped forehead.

OK, it is killing me. Where do you get this from.
I am not calling it made up, I am just asking where it comes from.

Originally posted by Shadowalker
What is the official White House comment on the color filters?

Has anyone posed it to their mouthpeices?

It is pretty obvious they put both sheets in the scanner at the same time and one shown through the other. What kind of statement are you looking for? What is the question?

reply to post by Kitilani


From Here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by Shadowalker
What is the official White House comment on the color filters?

Has anyone posed it to their mouthpeices?

It is pretty obvious they put both sheets in the scanner at the same time and one shown through the other. What kind of statement are you looking for? What is the question?

Pretty obvious you see the curvature of one and the non-curvature of the other... Being at the same time of course.

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by Shadowalker
What is the official White House comment on the color filters?

Has anyone posed it to their mouthpeices?

It is pretty obvious they put both sheets in the scanner at the same time and one shown through the other. What kind of statement are you looking for? What is the question?

Perhaps... that could explain it....

one more thing.......thats 32# rag bond paper with copy guard correct? then anyone with a copy guard document on the same gov bulk paper should be able to do the same thing at home I would suppose....

Originally posted by Americanist

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by Shadowalker
What is the official White House comment on the color filters?

Has anyone posed it to their mouthpeices?

It is pretty obvious they put both sheets in the scanner at the same time and one shown through the other. What kind of statement are you looking for? What is the question?

Pretty obvious you see the curvature of one and the non-curvature of the other... Being at the same time of course.

Uh huh. You know that curve you are looking at was a 2dimensional image right?
What do you think you are looking at? Do you think they shoved the book in the scanner, green paper behind it, then the short form behind that to scan it?

The original black and white document was copied onto green safety background, leaving the image of the curved page of the original intact. THIS was then scanned. So what did you think that curve meant?

Originally posted by Shadowalker

Perhaps... that could explain it....

one more thing.......thats 32# rag bond paper with copy guard correct?

Beats me. Where would one get that kind of information?

then anyone with a copy guard document on the same gov bulk paper should be able to do the same thing at home I would suppose....

I would suppose.

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Here is additional reading for you.

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Originally posted by KnightFire
reply to post by Kitilani

 

From Here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I do not see anything backing your claim about 99% of all Kenyans.

Thats the part that makes no sense at all.

If it was a document they merely had to hit print to print it out on the paper. There is no need to scan.

And if it was scanned it would have just been a single image in a pfd right?

Originally posted by KnightFire
reply to post by Kitilani

 

Here is additional reading for you.

atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...

I do not think you know what I just asked you. I will try again.

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by KnightFire
Also, 99% of all men from Kenya have a distinct bumped forehead.

OK, it is killing me. Where do you get this from.
I am not calling it made up, I am just asking where it comes from.

Originally posted by Shadowalker
Thats the part that makes no sense at all.

If it was a document they merely had to hit print to print it out on the paper. There is no need to scan.

And if it was scanned it would have just been a single image in a pfd right?

What the heck?

What do you mean all they would have had to do was hit print? To print out a page from a book from the 60's? What kind of software/hardware does anything like that?
If it was just scanned you would assume it would be just one imaged. The whitehouse said it was enhanced for legibility - manipulated. It was also OCR'd which would explain some of the discrepancies between recognized characters and non-recognized characters that many believe is evidence of whole words being made by cutting and pasting individual letters.

Can you explain what you mean about print?

Originally posted by miniatus
Pretty soon they will be in here measuring the typeface and yelling "LAYERS!"

the topic of obama's birth certificate needs to die.. the "experts" keep analyzing the publicly released PDF which is NOT the document certified as legit.. the version we see was cleaned up enhanced for readability .. it's no secret they took it into illustrator, they had to do so to add the colored security backing ( it is a black and white document ) ...

Anyway.. good find..

This topic should not die according to the law of our land his father being born over seas and not an American citizen makes him ineligible to hold the office of president even of obama was born in Hawaii the fact stated above makes him a fraud. This cow try needs to address this and rectify it or you might as well shread the constitution , oh yeah they are already doing that piece meal.

Originally posted by Godsontoo
This topic should not die according to the law of our land his father being born over seas and not an American citizen makes him ineligible to hold the office of president even of obama was born in Hawaii the fact stated above makes him a fraud. This cow try needs to address this and rectify it or you might as well shread the constitution , oh yeah they are already doing that piece meal.

What you just wrote is completely untrue. Obama is the 7th president to have a foreign born father. It really takes a lot of ignoring US history to keep making the claim you just did. It is not true.

Originally posted by Godsontoo
Originally posted by miniatus
This topic should not die according to the law of our land his father being born over seas and not an American citizen makes him ineligible to hold the office of president even of obama was born in Hawaii

Just like I ask ALL the others - show us where in the Constitution, or US Code it says that - otherwise retract it.

Originally posted by Kitilani

Originally posted by MensaDude
reply to post by Kitilani

 

I have yet to see any video of this newspaper clipping, showing someone zooming in on the microfiche display, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this clipping even exists. I've looked for such a video.

AS I SAID, this would be so easy to check. Just go to Hawaii, go to the library and ask to see it. Are you saying that not one birther, even Orly has done this one simple thing?

I will do you one better. It was a "birther" who discovered the announcement.

Originally posted by userid1

Originally posted by Godsontoo
Originally posted by miniatus
This topic should not die according to the law of our land his father being born over seas and not an American citizen makes him ineligible to hold the office of president even of obama was born in Hawaii

Just like I ask ALL the others - show us where in the Constitution, or US Code it says that - otherwise retract it.

More to the point, we have had 7 Presidents with one or both parents having been born outside the USA, some holding dual citizenship.