NBC apologizes for cutting "under God" from Pledge of Allegiance before U.S. Open

reply to post by beezzer
I don't think you covered that item well, but we're about to get deleted for off topic posts. PM me if you start a thread about it.

Originally posted by spinalremain

No.

This has nothing to do with atheists taking away from good God fearing Christians.
It is simply about the fact that God does not endorse the United States anymore than any other nation. To assume God loves Amayrika more than Zimbabwe is so ludicrous that I am almost embarrassed to be American.
A country supposedly for religious tolerance needs to cut God from the equation. This country is not a religious state. It's a free state. Why mandate that God be a part of it? Perhaps the Buddhist or the Pagan doesn't want any part of your God.
- I don't know where some of you get this idea that our founding fathers were these uber Christian bible thumpers, but they weren't. This country's principles have nothing to do with Jesus, God or any religion; other than the fact that one is free to worship whichever god they like.

Hurray,
I'm really glad someone else knows what is up.

reply to post by blackrain17


Great comeback repeating everything I said but... switching it around on me. You are very clever.

I'm sure it was an Under/Hidden-Handed oversight and NBC did apologize for the goof. Surely, we could learn to forgive each other for that blunder. Let's move on with our lives. I'm sure "God" wouldn't mind if we forget the next time...

reply to post by Soldier of God


Not really a comeback, I just wanted you to get the feeling of how ridiculous your statement sounded to me.

Here we have a case of Christians getting angry because the words "Under God" were not broadcasted.

Christians are demanding an apology from NBC, but in reality NBC doesn't have to apologize to anyone because this country is a secular country, you Christians can cry all you want but the original pledge of allegiance didn't contain the words "under god"

I believe the Government made a mistake back then to put those words in the pledge of allegiance and they should change it back to the original, how it should be.

Like our founding fathers intended it to be.

The Christian hijacking of this once great country must have Thomas Jefferson and all those brave men who fought against Imperial Britain rolling in their grave.

Originally posted by muse7
Here we have a case of Christians getting angry because the words "Under God" were not broadcasted.

Christians are demanding an apology from NBC, but in reality NBC doesn't have to apologize to anyone because this country is a secular country, you Christians can cry all you want but the original pledge of allegiance didn't contain the words "under god"

I believe the Government made a mistake back then to put those words in the pledge of allegiance and they should change it back to the original, how it should be.

Like our founding fathers intended it to be.

The Christian hijacking of this once great country must have Thomas Jefferson and all those brave men who fought against Imperial Britain rolling in their grave.

An outside agency (NBC) censored something. They took the deliberate step to remove/edit something for public consumption.
THEY determined what you should/could hear or not hear. Just because you agree with it, doen't mean that censorship should be allowed.

It is called censorship.

reply to post by beezzer


It might be censorship to you but to others it's just brainwashing.

reply to post by muse7


They also left out "One Nation" and "Indivisible", which were part of the orginal pledge.

I don't know what the agenda was here. Many nations divided? Sounds like some multicultural nonsense. In the past we used to call that segregation, but apparently in modern times cultural and ethnic segregation are okay, we just call it a different name. We celebrate our differences and our division, under the guise of uniqueness and cultural identity.

Originally posted by blackrain17
reply to post by beezzer

 

It might be censorship to you but to others it's just brainwashing.

Listen/don't listen. Believe/don't believe. Watch/don't watch.

The choice should be yours.

NOT NBC.

Colour it how you want, but the folks that applauded NBC, are for censorship.

Shame on all of you.

Originally posted by beezzer
An outside agency (NBC) censored something. They took the deliberate step to remove/edit something for public consumption.

As far as I am aware, NBC held the rights to those images, to the video, they have every right to censor with what they wish. Unfortunately they were spineless and they decided to be politically correct, yes, politically correct in catering towards the sensitivities of the religious right in this country. May not agree with Fox news but as far as I am aware, they hold rights to what they display on their shows, the hold the right to censor what they display, it is under their ownership.

If you believe God, that's great, nothing wrong with that, although if you feel this faith of yours needs to be display day in and day out to the public, I really have to question your level of faith.

Originally posted by beezzer
It is called censorship.

And? NBC is a private entity. The first amendment only prevents the government from doing the censoring. I would think you, a proud tea party "patriot" would stand up for a private entities right to broadcast what it pleases without being persecuted.

Hmmm.

reply to post by Southern Guardian


I'm glad we agree that it was censorship. Just because you endorse what they censored, does not make it right.

Just because THEY HAVE THE ABILITY and RIGHT to do so, does not make it right.

A sad day when people on ATS are defending censorship.

Mark your calendars, boys and girls.

reply to post by NoArmsJames

I believe in freedom. You believe in an entity censoring what it wants.

If it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck,. . . . . .

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by NoArmsJames

 

I believe in freedom. You believe in an entity censoring what it wants.

If it quacks like a duck, swims like a duck,. . . . . .

Logic fail much?

I believe that a non-government, private entity has the FREEDOM to say what it wants, and censor what it wants. Just as I believe that any private citizen has the same right.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

I'm glad we agree that it was censorship. Just because you endorse what they censored, does not make it right.

Whether it does or doesn't in your eyses is irrelevant, it is their right to censor as they are a private company. Such a different tune from you considering the different circumstances, but how can I be surprised? They removed "under God", not a big loss unless you are the religious type with a political agenda.

NBC had a choice, they made it, and while I believe they were spineless for making that choice, it was theirs nevertheless. They had the right either way. Do you respect their right as a private entity?

Just because THEY HAVE THE ABILITY and RIGHT to do so,

Ya damn straight, but I see you support the religious mob in this place, the type that insists upon attacking those rights when it doesn't suit their agenda.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by muse7
Here we have a case of Christians getting angry because the words "Under God" were not broadcasted.

Christians are demanding an apology from NBC, but in reality NBC doesn't have to apologize to anyone because this country is a secular country, you Christians can cry all you want but the original pledge of allegiance didn't contain the words "under god"

I believe the Government made a mistake back then to put those words in the pledge of allegiance and they should change it back to the original, how it should be.

Like our founding fathers intended it to be.

The Christian hijacking of this once great country must have Thomas Jefferson and all those brave men who fought against Imperial Britain rolling in their grave.

An outside agency (NBC) censored something. They took the deliberate step to remove/edit something for public consumption.
THEY determined what you should/could hear or not hear. Just because you agree with it, doen't mean that censorship should be allowed.

It is called censorship.

Or you know, maybe they made a mistake and they couldn't get back on air in time to broadcast the whole pledge?

It's funny that this trivial mistake by a network has all of you Christians with your panties in a bunch.

Just goes to show how entitled you people feel, when in fact you're not entitled to anything...neither is any other religion, you can pray and worship anything you want...but you're not entitled to any special treatment from any TV station or Radio station

The United States of America is a secular nation.

reply to post by Southern Guardian


The omission of One Nation and Indivisble actually offend me far more than the lack of the "under god" part. The republic still falls under the Eye of Providence, regardless of NBC. Anyone with a dollar in their pocket can see that on the Great Seal.

E pluribus unum, Out of Many, One, has been one of our major mottoes since the revoution. Its a core principle of this republic. To omit it is a slap in the face of the revolution and the fathers of the republic.

reply to post by MikeboydUS


They did no such thing. The video is on page one; go watch it.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by Southern Guardian

 

The omission of One Nation and Indivisble actually offend me far more than the lack of the "under god" part.

You were offended by what NBC did. Right. You have the right to be offended, and they have right to offend you. You happy? Everybody is happy. I get offended at many things in TV, but then I remind myself that this the result of the free media in this country, something many other countries lack, unfortunately.

To omit it is a slap in the face of the revolution and the fathers of the republic.

To contrary, I believe what NBC chooses is exactly what the founding fathers intended for this country. The last thing any true liberty loving individual would want is a collective restraint on practicing your views and opinions in the media, whether it be on a government level, or in a public level.