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Originally posted by FEDec
Shouldn't the questioning go to a person with verifiable demonic knowledge? Such as the head of your church?
Originally posted by Fatgoblin
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I have not told this person she or her son have any mental problems.
Obviously you didn't. I was pointing out that all the spiritual/religious/new age whatever people on this site always seem to pop up on topics where someone is asking for advice (which in itself is ridiculous by the way considering the nature of this site) and give them a whole load of tripe that confuses them more than anything else.
And anyway this woman needs help herself if she thinks her son is possessed by demons and ATS is the best place to seek help
I see all problems as manifestations of our out-of-alignment condition. I have neither named the condition nor given her any medical advice but have provided a link to a wholistic facility. It is anything but random. I have provided some interesting spiritual tools for spiritual growth.
Out of alignment with what exactly? And spiritual growth for a seven year old? What he needs to be doing is rolling about in the mud and riding his bike and playing football (real football, with FEET )
I have abstained from making any specific diagnosis.
A) Because you don't know what's really wrong with him just like everyone else on this thread and
b) Because that's a doctors job.
And thanks for providing the exact confirmation that atheists condemn the spiritual life
You're most welcome. You find sprituality in spirits, I find spirituality in another kind of spirit
Originally posted by Fatgoblin
Originally posted by FEDec
Shouldn't the questioning go to a person with verifiable demonic knowledge? Such as the head of your church?
I think the head of her church is rubbing his hands somewhere
Originally posted by FEDec
Seriously people?
Ok a little hypothetical on my part here: So demons are real and one is terrorizing your loved one(s).
Why on earth would you ask the internet for advice? How can you be sure that those on the other end of the line aren't afflicted by demons themselves? How could you be sure any advice given wouldn't be in a demon's best interest?
Shouldn't the questioning go to a person with verifiable demonic knowledge? Such as the head of your church? The OP claims to be catholic but would take the advice of the anonymous over that of her church community which would seem to say something about her faith.
Originally posted by Fatgoblin
Originally posted by FEDec
Shouldn't the questioning go to a person with verifiable demonic knowledge? Such as the head of your church?
I think the head of her church is rubbing his hands somewhere
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Fatgoblin
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I have not told this person she or her son have any mental problems.
Obviously you didn't. I was pointing out that all the spiritual/religious/new age whatever people on this site always seem to pop up on topics where someone is asking for advice (which in itself is ridiculous by the way considering the nature of this site) and give them a whole load of tripe that confuses them more than anything else.
And anyway this woman needs help herself if she thinks her son is possessed by demons and ATS is the best place to seek help
I see all problems as manifestations of our out-of-alignment condition. I have neither named the condition nor given her any medical advice but have provided a link to a wholistic facility. It is anything but random. I have provided some interesting spiritual tools for spiritual growth.
Out of alignment with what exactly? And spiritual growth for a seven year old? What he needs to be doing is rolling about in the mud and riding his bike and playing football (real football, with FEET )
I have abstained from making any specific diagnosis.
A) Because you don't know what's really wrong with him just like everyone else on this thread and
b) Because that's a doctors job.
And thanks for providing the exact confirmation that atheists condemn the spiritual life
You're most welcome. You find sprituality in spirits, I find spirituality in another kind of spirit
Ok so now you KNOW what he needs, and it's rolling in the dirt!!! Well of course children need playtime where they can just enjoy their personal creativity. What do you think? That I never played Swing a Statue or Red Light Green Light? So you now think we should not talk about spirituality when it's exactly what this person came here for, but you know that a doctor can just take care of it. Seems she came here as a last resort for ideas.
People like you believe that a pill can just take care of every manifestion in the physical or mental body. That's exactly the mindset of Big Pharma I'm talking about. And yah, when I have a headache I take Tylenol. But that is not the answer to every problem. Even with psychiatric problems the pills just mask the symptoms but may provide some relief as well as some side effects, what is referred to as Allopathic healing. Naturopathic healing adds an inner wholistic dimension to healing.
It would be great if all the kid has to do is go play in the dirt. There's something to be said for the carefree playdays of youth, and children today are forced into violin or piano lessons, soccer, the pre-school dujour, and now Ive read that some pre K schoolteacher has decided to make all the kiddies wear uniforms. How's that for homogenizing everyone?
I've had people tell me that if I wrote a book they'd read it, so sorry if you don't like my particular form of writing.
Namaste!
Well I have some unpleasant news for you. While I attended Catholic Church when my son was being confirmed, and I think basically it's the better form of orthodox Christianity, I have been told, by someone who has spent a great deal of time in the Seminary, that Marxism has been invading the Church. She herself is Catholic. Indeed, religious humanism has begun to be introduced into the clergy. So, how do we ever really know who is pure as the driven snow and who is stained by the crimson of the Dweller.
Originally posted by topherman420
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Fatgoblin
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I have not told this person she or her son have any mental problems.
Obviously you didn't. I was pointing out that all the spiritual/religious/new age whatever people on this site always seem to pop up on topics where someone is asking for advice (which in itself is ridiculous by the way considering the nature of this site) and give them a whole load of tripe that confuses them more than anything else.
And anyway this woman needs help herself if she thinks her son is possessed by demons and ATS is the best place to seek help
I see all problems as manifestations of our out-of-alignment condition. I have neither named the condition nor given her any medical advice but have provided a link to a wholistic facility. It is anything but random. I have provided some interesting spiritual tools for spiritual growth.
Out of alignment with what exactly? And spiritual growth for a seven year old? What he needs to be doing is rolling about in the mud and riding his bike and playing football (real football, with FEET )
I have abstained from making any specific diagnosis.
A) Because you don't know what's really wrong with him just like everyone else on this thread and
b) Because that's a doctors job.
And thanks for providing the exact confirmation that atheists condemn the spiritual life
You're most welcome. You find sprituality in spirits, I find spirituality in another kind of spirit
Ok so now you KNOW what he needs, and it's rolling in the dirt!!! Well of course children need playtime where they can just enjoy their personal creativity. What do you think? That I never played Swing a Statue or Red Light Green Light? So you now think we should not talk about spirituality when it's exactly what this person came here for, but you know that a doctor can just take care of it. Seems she came here as a last resort for ideas.
People like you believe that a pill can just take care of every manifestion in the physical or mental body. That's exactly the mindset of Big Pharma I'm talking about. And yah, when I have a headache I take Tylenol. But that is not the answer to every problem. Even with psychiatric problems the pills just mask the symptoms but may provide some relief as well as some side effects, what is referred to as Allopathic healing. Naturopathic healing adds an inner wholistic dimension to healing.
It would be great if all the kid has to do is go play in the dirt. There's something to be said for the carefree playdays of youth, and children today are forced into violin or piano lessons, soccer, the pre-school dujour, and now Ive read that some pre K schoolteacher has decided to make all the kiddies wear uniforms. How's that for homogenizing everyone?
I've had people tell me that if I wrote a book they'd read it, so sorry if you don't like my particular form of writing.
Namaste!
Just dont scare people with terms like "big pharma" etc since its like labelling alot of medicine as wrong or doctors as untrustworthy....only enforcing a more religious is better then medicine mentality.
Both have their flaws....both have frauds and charlatans that want your money. But there are alot of smart doctors out there that devote alot of work into studies and their practice, only to have it sullied with slander from religious fundamentalists or new age spiritualism or their own colleagues not practising their hippocratic oath to their fullest extent.
A big problem with doctors is a text book mentality and how their career is really just a job and a salary to them and at the end of the day, if no personal patients have actually died, well its been a decent day.
Its the doctors who are informed, up to date, attend conferences and lectures, who still write papers and contribute to the knowledge of their peers, the ones that actually look further then the text book, those are the ones that are rarely seen.
I can only hope she abandons this thread permanently and realizes that a general consensus has been made here but not entirely collective in thought: She should not abandon her faith...it sounds as though its a pillar in her life, and her family tradition and shouldnt be ignored. Im sure prayer isnt going to harm a child, but wishing for a cure isnt the way either, use it to cope and to guide the doctors to the answers. Which is the second part and that is dont give up on medicine. Dont accept one diagnoses if you think it doesnt fit, get multiple opinions, state logical reasons why you think this "they say adhd but certain symptoms dont seem to match this". Use the internet as a tool when you deal with doctors, do research into what they suggest, print the information, bring it to the doctor overseeing your childs care and go over the info and use his time to your advantage.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
See that's your atheistic cynicism again. A priest is not supposed to have profit in their minds when dealing with members of their church. If so, then let's talk about false pastors shall we?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I've had people tell me that if I wrote a book they'd read it
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by FEDec
You forgot to hit the quote button. And DON'T let the door hit you on the way out!
Originally posted by FEDec
Rubbing in the relocate the priest and pay off the family kind of way? Or rubbing in the evil plan/scheming kind of way?
Honestly though I've gotta wonder about someone who turns to the internet about this kind of thing. Do they just want their own suspicions confirmed or what?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by topherman420
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by Fatgoblin
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I have not told this person she or her son have any mental problems.
Obviously you didn't. I was pointing out that all the spiritual/religious/new age whatever people on this site always seem to pop up on topics where someone is asking for advice (which in itself is ridiculous by the way considering the nature of this site) and give them a whole load of tripe that confuses them more than anything else.
And anyway this woman needs help herself if she thinks her son is possessed by demons and ATS is the best place to seek help
I see all problems as manifestations of our out-of-alignment condition. I have neither named the condition nor given her any medical advice but have provided a link to a wholistic facility. It is anything but random. I have provided some interesting spiritual tools for spiritual growth.
Out of alignment with what exactly? And spiritual growth for a seven year old? What he needs to be doing is rolling about in the mud and riding his bike and playing football (real football, with FEET )
I have abstained from making any specific diagnosis.
A) Because you don't know what's really wrong with him just like everyone else on this thread and
b) Because that's a doctors job.
And thanks for providing the exact confirmation that atheists condemn the spiritual life
You're most welcome. You find sprituality in spirits, I find spirituality in another kind of spirit
Ok so now you KNOW what he needs, and it's rolling in the dirt!!! Well of course children need playtime where they can just enjoy their personal creativity. What do you think? That I never played Swing a Statue or Red Light Green Light? So you now think we should not talk about spirituality when it's exactly what this person came here for, but you know that a doctor can just take care of it. Seems she came here as a last resort for ideas.
People like you believe that a pill can just take care of every manifestion in the physical or mental body. That's exactly the mindset of Big Pharma I'm talking about. And yah, when I have a headache I take Tylenol. But that is not the answer to every problem. Even with psychiatric problems the pills just mask the symptoms but may provide some relief as well as some side effects, what is referred to as Allopathic healing. Naturopathic healing adds an inner wholistic dimension to healing.
It would be great if all the kid has to do is go play in the dirt. There's something to be said for the carefree playdays of youth, and children today are forced into violin or piano lessons, soccer, the pre-school dujour, and now Ive read that some pre K schoolteacher has decided to make all the kiddies wear uniforms. How's that for homogenizing everyone?
I've had people tell me that if I wrote a book they'd read it, so sorry if you don't like my particular form of writing.
Namaste!
Just dont scare people with terms like "big pharma" etc since its like labelling alot of medicine as wrong or doctors as untrustworthy....only enforcing a more religious is better then medicine mentality.
Both have their flaws....both have frauds and charlatans that want your money. But there are alot of smart doctors out there that devote alot of work into studies and their practice, only to have it sullied with slander from religious fundamentalists or new age spiritualism or their own colleagues not practising their hippocratic oath to their fullest extent.
A big problem with doctors is a text book mentality and how their career is really just a job and a salary to them and at the end of the day, if no personal patients have actually died, well its been a decent day.
Its the doctors who are informed, up to date, attend conferences and lectures, who still write papers and contribute to the knowledge of their peers, the ones that actually look further then the text book, those are the ones that are rarely seen.
I can only hope she abandons this thread permanently and realizes that a general consensus has been made here but not entirely collective in thought: She should not abandon her faith...it sounds as though its a pillar in her life, and her family tradition and shouldnt be ignored. Im sure prayer isnt going to harm a child, but wishing for a cure isnt the way either, use it to cope and to guide the doctors to the answers. Which is the second part and that is dont give up on medicine. Dont accept one diagnoses if you think it doesnt fit, get multiple opinions, state logical reasons why you think this "they say adhd but certain symptoms dont seem to match this". Use the internet as a tool when you deal with doctors, do research into what they suggest, print the information, bring it to the doctor overseeing your childs care and go over the info and use his time to your advantage.
I've been to the Catholic Church and I love the feeling of holiness there. I totally espouse that. Nowhere have I told anyone to abandon medications if they are necessary. But ritalin has been over prescribed. Ask a public school administrator or nurse. I've been told of the lines of children lining up to get their meds at the nurse's station in school. So please do not insult my intelligence on this matter. I have had personal dealings with this ritalin issue. I do not dole out stupid advice. ADHD is a serious matter for every family it strikes.
I know I am not alone on this subject.
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by FEDec
You forgot to hit the quote button. And DON'T let the door hit you on the way out!
Originally posted by FEDec
Well I have some unpleasant news for you. While I attended Catholic Church when my son was being confirmed, and I think basically it's the better form of orthodox Christianity, I have been told, by someone who has spent a great deal of time in the Seminary, that Marxism has been invading the Church. She herself is Catholic. Indeed, religious humanism has begun to be introduced into the clergy. So, how do we ever really know who is pure as the driven snow and who is stained by the crimson of the Dweller.
Psssssssssssssssssshhhhttttt. Centuries of manipulation, corruption and sexual abuse and you're worried about a little leftism? Get the net. All I was saying is that if she is catholic it is very telling that she would seek advice from the internet rather then someone within the church. I think you are a demon and in replying to this thread seek to sow discord. Since you yourself have belief in such creatures you must admit it is a possibility.
Crimson of the dweller? Avoid such dramatic poetics lest ye wouldst paint thineself as ye olde peasant.edit on 29-4-2011 by FEDec because: Fixed quote