Is it The End Of The World or what ?

Do I believe we are in "end times"? Yes. I don't tie it to any date, like the Mayan calendar. I tie it to the the level of debauchery going on in the world. The moral relativism. The many wars going on. The violent nature of the planet. Unusual weather patterns (snow in Florida last year. Huge hailstones last summer in Scottsdale, AZ. The drought in Georgia a couple years back, flood in the midwest, etc).

I don't believe it will be quick. It will be progressive. Like the Bible says, "labor pains...". We are now seeing those labor pains.

NO, however I do observe increasing paranoia feeding itself and getting people worked up into a frenzy. This causes the interpretation of normal events to be "end of the world". The frenzy is thrown back at folks like myself as being deluded fools not seeing the truth and yet I am here on ATS precisely because I don't trust all that I am told or read by the establishment! I seek evidence, I see none save the reguritated paraphrasing of believers novellettes by each other (thats the paranoia feeding itself on self fulfilling evidence). The only thing I have read is the ever increasing knowledge by science on how the brain works (explains the ATS extreme attitudes), how climate works, how medicine works preferentially (very enlightening), the stubborn unlocking of quantum physics -gravity and how stupid, greedy and accident prone human beings are (hence no NWO end of world ark scenario!)

Yes, I believe we are in end times. Not of the physical world per se, but most definately on a spiritual level. I like to believe the end times/the dawn of a new age represents a major overhaul on political, economic, social and spiritual level. Not the well known New World Order/World Government I hope.

I never really believed in 2012 but this year has had me thinking otherwise. I mean two of the biggest ever earthquakes in the first quarter of the year? Nuclear meltdown, tsunami's... surely something is going on.

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No. There might be some huge event between now and Dec 21, 2012, but that doesn't mean the world will end. Now, the world as we know it may change drastically. The Earth is always cleansing and organizing.

No, i think we will just advance to a new futuristic age...

Doom has already ended.

We live in a post-apocalyptic world.
Biorobots are everywhere.
Enslavement is accomplished.
There is one world government with multiple institutions - UN, NATO, IMF...
We have slaughtered most of the trees on the planet.
Everyone is programmed to feel happy regardless - Smile Slave my Sheeple.


I could continue, but what is the point?

you know what? I should be a yes, but for the purposes of this thread I am being a no, I think when it comes down to it we are all incredibly insular beings and the ONLY truth we know is that we exist.. personally... I cannot prove the existence of anybody else or anything else other than in my thoughts. Based upon that thought I can say catagorically that my world ends with every single nano second and begins again. My biggest world ending moment was upon the birth of my first daughter, that day my world truly ended and started again in a whole new light, but for the purposes of this thread, NO, all the stuff happening now has happened before and will continue to happen for millenia!

Sorry if that sounded new agey and badly written... I kinda just had an epiphany and is difficult to put in words what i was thinking.

Ancient eastern philosophies and modern science say we change reality through thought alone. I wonder what effect all this doomsday talk and thinking is having on the future

Only my opinion:

End of the world - no
End of human civilization - doubtful
Major earth changes - very possible
Major depopulation - very possible

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" This is the end.....my only friend..the end.....of or elaborate plan.....the end...." The Door's.
Fascist two line.

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no..i think we are going through a very rough time...there may be more wars, more natural disasters, man made disasters and disease and for some this will be the end...but humans will come out the other side stronger...possibly as a stage 1 civilisation as described by michio kaku.

i think the corruption within our governments and secrets and lies is creating tension and pressure around the world that tension has to be released at some point and will create some very tough times.

This question and the responses in this particular thread are fascinating to me and I love this site in general. Please allow me some n00b forgiveness if things I mention have already been discussed ad nauseum around here.

Obviously a puny human like myself could never say for sure, but based on what we know about the Universe it seems extremely unlikely that planet Earth is going away anytime soon. The post above about the communication revolution was spot on. It's not necessarily the case that more crazy stuff is happening right now, it's more that we all know everything happening in the world in real time.

That being said, however, I don't think there is any question that industrialized society as we know it is totally unsustainable and systemic population decrease is inevitable unless some serious and fundamental changes are made. Therein lies the rub, of course, because the necessary changes are never going to come as long corporations in the energy industry are able to prevent the governments of the world from developing a contingency plan other than bunkers and seed vaults for the elites.

Obviously the explosion of the world population has coincided with the Industrial Revolution and subsequent progression of the uses for oil.



Literally everything in our current society is in some way reliant on oil, and this is especially true of our food supplies, which are imported and exported from all corners of the globe, to say nothing of the fact that the quantity of food needed to support 8 billion people is not possible without oil. I've seen some around here argue that Peak Oil is a myth, but that seems like misguided thinking to me. It's a non-renewable, finite resource. It's going to run out, and there is no reason to think that the world's aggregate oil supply won't mimmick the oil supply of a field in Texas. Bottom line - if the world (i.e. America) doesn't develop and implement an alternative plan in the next 30 years, industrialized society (and the outrageous population growth it supports) will end in massive chaos and population death.

Likewise, climate change is not helping the equation. The American right's (i.e. big oil, among others) campaign against climate change will go down as one of the most despicable acts in human history. Essentially these sold out republican politicians and scientists will be responsible for the end of industrial society if we do nothing to stop them. They've been waging class warfare since the New Deal and have successfully returned the wealth inequality to pre-Great Depression levels and culminated their insufferable greed with excessive deregulation and a collapse of the world economy. Congratulations. Meanwhile they convince right-to-life Joe that they have their best interests in mind with psuedo religious moral garbage. It's a joke. Don't get it twisted, the Left is equally corrupt, especially when it comes to banking relationships and wall street, but at least they give the appearance of having a social conscience and moral compass when it comes to big picture, save our society ideas.

So yeah, if nothing is done soon, the polar ice caps will continue to melt, the ocean will get warmer, and weather patterns will continue to change, storms and the extremes of the seasons will continue to worsen, and droughts will continue to pop up in places that didn't normally experience them. We are already seeing severe rises in food prices due in part to this and in part to inflation, and areas of the globe that can't absorb the increases will go hungry, thus spurring civil unrest and popular revolt. This is already happening. How do you think Egypt started? Russia experienced an unprecedented drought, it decimated their wheat crop, and Egypt, which is one of the world's largest wheat consumers, experienced a severe rise in prices that its generally poor population couldn't afford. It was the final straw for a population with no say in its national policy, and this is just the start.

I guess I don't really believe in most of the conspiracy theories or end of the world scenarios mentioned around here. To me our problems are man-made, but who knows, maybe we are some fish bowl alien experiement. I mean, sure, it's definitely possible that there is a TPTB type of shadow string pullers out there, but to me it simply comes down to the fact that human decisions ultimately run this planet, and a lot of us are greedy pieces of garbage. Greed is the poison of our times, always has been I suppose. The West fights wars economically and politically now, and its a resource war between us all.

The only truth I know for certain in this world is that the greedy will stop at nothing to keep increasing profits, especially when that "person" is a giant public corporation that has no choice but to cut every corner so that profits and then stock prices continue to rise each year. The only way for we the people to truly change the world is to get the US Supreme Court to overturn its legal classification of a corporation as a "person" within the meaning of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This seems as likely as me banging a supermodel tonight, so yeah, I don't really have a rosy disposition regarding the future of the human race.

The good news is that we can stop this from happening if we really wanted to, but outside of the long shot of someone like Ron Paul being elected President, we would have to make some serious changes to American democracy that corporations would never allow to willingly happen. I'm not optimistic, but maybe, just maybe, there is enough sentiment brewing out there to fundamentally remodel the american political system in order to save us all.

No i don't believe that the world is going to end. if you actually look up the word "armageddon" and the etymology of it, it means a "revelation" of some sort. like a great truth being revealed. so i do believe that something will go down, and indeed many people may die, but it's the beginning of a new age. the age of aquarius which is the "age of spiritual enlightenment." Whether or not they like it, the nwo is on its way out, and out of their destruction a beautiful new age will be born. and im not a christian, but the bible says that there are labor pains before you can have a beautiful baby.

No, I don't think 2012 will be the end of the world, it is just the end of the Mayan calendar (similar to ours on the 31st of December). I have yet to see any real proof that there is such a thing as reptilians; the NWO; Nibiru etc

No, the world has been around for 4.54 billion years so I doubt it'll go anytime soon.

Originally posted by FIFIGI
Doom has already ended.

We live in a post-apocalyptic world.
Biorobots are everywhere.
Enslavement is accomplished.
There is one world government with multiple institutions - UN, NATO, IMF...
We have slaughtered most of the trees on the planet.
Everyone is programmed to feel happy regardless - Smile Slave my Sheeple.


I could continue, but what is the point?

Really? Post-apocalyptic world? Lol.

There are so many beautiful things in the world, we're living in the best post-apocalyptic world ever by the looks of it.

You can do something about it yes. Please Understand that the world will not end like you think it may end. The mayan did NOT predict the end of time with their calendar. Modern man predicted it. This is a spiritual event. The earth magnetic pole are changing (fact). This slows down the EMF (earth magnetic field). by slowing down the EMF, Things on earth weigh more. The calculation is about 60mg. On the physical plane, it doesn't mean much, but on the spiritual plane (thoughts ideas etc..) is huge. Thinking base civilization will fall because they will feel they cannot think anymore, they cannot do anything, as their thoughts weigh more. There is where the new civilization rise with this quote "Less thoughts, more Actions". The one that are able to do things without thinking will rise "enlighted people". The one that cannot do actions without thinking, will fall in depression. This is real. Please understand.

If day after day, you feel damn i have no thoughts... what should i do ?? you feel depress all the time. don't go see a spycologist, just meditate. Remember, the world biggest drown is "lazyness". If you feel depress, have anxiety or whatever, go lift weights that you cannot lift. Now you will think, well if i lift weights i cannot lift, i will hurt myself... that is the idea... don't think, just do and you will survive.

Thank you for reading.


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Yes, I was thinking about this when I started the thread, the indoctrination of Christianity really tends to point me towards Doom...

The end of the world

Originally posted by CarlitosAmsel
There is no such thing as e "End of the "World". If there would be, WE would'nt be, nothing would exist. Since it never started, the World will never end. Its only the fear in you, the fear, you could end, that makes you invision such a thing.

(Had a bit of dust from the philosophers stone in my morning coffee...)

Perhaps...

Pass that around BTW.