6 Year Old Girl groped by New Orleans TSA.This Has To Stop...

reply to post by bluemirage5


No, I dont mind touching private parts as long as it is not sexual. This touch is not sexual. Why are you sexualizing a simple search?

reply to post by bluemirage5

Yes I have had a pat down, twice in fact, but none in my own country and neither of the two pat downs included touching the inside of my legs or breasts.

Oh, inside of the legs and a brief tough of breast area. You are overreacting very strongly..

There is nothing sexual in the video at all.

reply to post by ZiggyMojo


You think that I think profiling only includes Muslims? I did'nt say that. Perhaps you pressume too much! Airport security are not only seeking out terrorist suspects, however on the subject, I'm well aware they come in all racial groups, I'm not that bloody stupid.

reply to post by Maslo


Whether that type of touch is sexual or not depends on the mindset of the person doing the touching.There is no way you or anyone for that matter can know what is going on the mind of the TSA agent or the child.

We live in a sick perverted world and the last thing we need is to let our kids get felt up by strangers when there is no real threat involved.

reply to post by DZAG Wright


You'll be shocked what goes through the minds of some of those TSA agents.......pay attention to the media; there are some bad apples among them....proven time and time again.

Little kids don't need these pat downs nor do they need to be subjected to those Xray machines of high radiation doses, nor do they need to be drug tested. Little kids are not a threat to your airlines, your GOVT is! try that for size.

Get it through your thick heads.

reply to post by bluemirage5


5. I guess my definition of private parts differs from yours. Inside of legs or a brief touch of breast area is not enough to be concerned. These parts need to be searched during search, and there is nothing sexual about it. I dont see any issue here.

Little kids don't need these pat downs nor do they need to be subjected to those Xray machines of high radiation doses, nor do they need to be drug tested.

Little kids need to be checked just as thoroughly as any adult. They can be used for attacks or trafficking, too.

reply to post by Maslo


What a load of utter rubbish.

You get off on all of this; most single males do. Thats ok, I"m aware the world is a sick place and we probably do need a great war to gid rid of the air heads and sickos that waste our space. Jeez, they even run our countries; perhaps the Americans who voted in this idiot really are a marble in a tin can and deserve everything they get.....but leave the kids out of it.

One thing IS for sure about the Americans putting up with this rubbish......they're WEAK and are fast becoming the laughing stock of the world because they won't do anything about it!

Show me proof just ONE under age kid has been caught with explosives boarding a plane in the USA.............just ONE in the past 10 years, 5 years? 2 years? Prove yourself!

tell me, do TSA feel up the private parts of animals that also fly?

If this happened in my own country there would be massive demonstrations........and our Govt knows it!

But in the USA? Weak bastards for allowing this to continue! Americans should be shamed of themselves!

Their taking away our freedom we need to do something! Their taking away our freedom we need to do something! Their taking away our freedom we need to do something! Please...Either you fly or you don't
fly. Nothing was sexual, nothing was out of the ordinary, everyone else in there was getting patted down too
so stop whining. Also, don't try to be specific and technical about everything because you can't sensationalize
your idiotic statements with your ill-minded friends.

It's sick and perverted; but then so is your Govt....all of them!

There is NO reason for this to happen, NONE. No cause, no justification.

The Americans are paranoid....

why?

Because a vast majority of them believe anything they're told.

There is a whole world out there, we don't do this sh*t in our countries.......it happens ONLY in America!

If your Govt told you to line up then enter cattle carts that is going to take you all to "greener" pastures you'd do that without question too.

The Mother, Selena Drexel, Has now gone public and done a few interviews.

The TSA has also weighed in on the matter.

Many of my previous questions have been answered and the blanks filled in.

Her daughter was selected for a "Random Screening"... (Patdown)

There was no drug test. Just pat down.

There was no suspicious activity by the parents or child that led to the search.

The TSA followed policy and training to the letter of the manual... even the mother acknowledges the agent was professional and courteous.

All that said....Bad, BAD policy. If the mom had tried to smuggle something on the plane or smelled like drugs...maybe...maybe I could understand, but this was random screening.

The TSA needs to change the policy immediately.

Until then anyone travelling with children...
if your child is selected for random pat-down...
You have a right to say No Thank You...Flying is a consumer purchase and choice.
I would refuse the pat-down for my child, leave the security area, go to the Airline customer Service desk and explain the circumstances and ask to be put on the next available flight or have your ticket refunded.

Any airline would want to avoid this kind of press like the plague and would put you on the next flight immediately (poosiblky even with an upgrade and an apology)...and the odds of having a child selected for "random" pat down twice has got to be slim.

Alternatively if you can't take a later flight...ask to see a TSA manager and make a scene, wait at the security area, don't go to a back office to talk, you are going to want an audience as you loudly explain that it is not OK for your child to be patted down by strangers.

TSA needs to send out a specific guideline memo on the issue immediately.

And yes...if we ever decide we want to pay the money and get the politics out of the discussion...profiling (not racial-but psychological...Q&A etc) remains the best screening method. Israel is very good at Psych profiling, but as I understand it those agents go through a years worth of training...it is expensive... but it might be time that we upgraded our methodologies. It will just require bipartisanship and discussion free of private lobbyists..who prefer to make a quick and unregulated profit staffing airports. Most of the 9-11 terrorists boarded through airports with TSA staffed by private firms.

reply to post by maybereal11


Our Australian Customs (same as TSA) is also highly trained over a year and they do top ups every year thereafter.

I've been through Israel's airport security and was once picked out randomly and NEVER was I put through anything like this happening in the USA. And believe you me.....Israel IS the best in the world.

You''ll find the Thai customs & feds are top notch too.

I would NEVER allow my young children to be subjected to TSA's kind of pat downs nor those xray machines. I'd rather get on the next flight back to where I come from. If they want to put me in jail, so be it. I have all the time in the world.

"They stone you when they think that you're AFRAID."

Dylan

Originally posted by bluemirage5

I would NEVER allow my young children to be subjected to TSA's kind of pat downs nor those xray machines. I'd rather get on the next flight back to where I come from. If they want to put me in jail, so be it. I have all the time in the world.

And that would be your right. What gets lost in the discussion is that this is a consumers choice...a product we purchase...and anyone who decides "no thank you" is within thier rights.

TSA doesn't worry about bad press the same way an airline does...since an Airline worries about profit. I would go to the customer service desk and complain that the TSA wanted to frisk my child and ask for another flight and prefferably an upgrade. Maybe mention in passing that your are still wondering what you will post on your blog about the matter

The TSA says they are reviewing the practice, so we will see, until then...consumer choice.

I see most people have been irritated by this thread but you'd be surprised what people would put on children.I work at a maximum security state prison and everyone gets a pat down like this.This includes visitors and children.You wouldn't believe what some people will try to hide on their children.

reply to post by indy0725


Prisons are no place for young children full stop, let alone maximum level.

Whats wrong with parents?

I believe the reason they are randomly pulling young children out of line for pat-downs is for conditioning and indoctrination. They are getting these young kids conditioned for total government control.

JUST STOP FLYING!!!!!

I used to fly several times a year before the TSA started doing this Crap!

Now I never, EVER, fly!

MAKE THEM PAY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!!!!

(hit them where it actually hurts - the wallet)

The important question is, whether random pat down searches at airports are a good policy or not. I tend to believe no, it is not worth it compared to the bothering of the travellers, IMHO.

Age of the participants is irrelevant and crazy sexual comparisons have no merit.

reply to post by bluemirage5



Yes...Americans are weak... And guess what? I am an American....

I decided to watch the video and I truly wish I hadn't. As a mother, I don't know how they could just stand there and let their little girl be subjected to that. NOBODY should be touching children at all. I would have probably been arrested if I had been that mother, but at least they taped it to show how absolutely ridiculous the system has become. And please don't get on me about how we need to protect our country. Patting down and rubbing small children will not protect the country. It just teaches the kids from a young age to be dumbed down and take whatever the government gives you and tells you to do.