POLL How many ATS Members here believe in Alien lifeforms and Alien spacecraft ? Visiting Earth

I do not wish to be anal. But almost everything you listed is considered as hearsay. I will start with the astronomy bit.

Do you know anything about atronomy?
-> Check out the number of suns per galaxy and the number of galaxies in the universe.
-> Check out the research results of the moons Titan, Europa, Enceladus.
-> Check out the Kepler telescope findings.

Yes I do know a little bit. I have been rereading my Astonomy mags from 2003. I do have a telescope. I do not know of anybody that does not know or "believe" that there are billions of stars. This has nothing to do with "aliens" visiting earth. No proof, just stars and planets. There is a big difference in stating that there are billions of possible planets or solar systems that can harbor life, and stating that these lifeforms have visited earth.

Have you ever REALLY checked the facts of the UFO phenomenon?
-> Watch the Disclosure Project's National Press Club conference from 2001 initiated by Steven Greer.
-> Watch the National Press Club press conference from 2007 initiated by James Fox.
-> Watch the National Press Club press conference from 2010 initiated by Robert Salas.
-> Watch "The Day Before Disclosure" by New Paradigm Films.
-> Watch presentations by Stanton T. Friedman, Richard Dolan and others.
-> Check out what happens in Hessdalen, Norway.
-> Read "Project Blue Book - Special Report No.14".
-> Read the "Cometa" report.
-> Find out what the "Twining Memo" says.
-> WATCH THE SKY AS OFTEN AS YOU CAN.

->

I believe that everything you stated here is someone else's agenda. These conferences and meetings have not put forth any more evidence then was previously known. These conventions charge alot of money to hear someont speak. To tell you the truth, I have doubts about everybody speaking at these conventions. It is all about the dollar. If you cannot see this then you are a blind follower of the "truth".

Do you know anything about alien abduction cases?
-> Check out the "Travis Walton" case.
-> Check out the "Betty and Barney Hill" case.
-> Read the book "The Humanoids" by Charles Bowen, Gordon Creighton, Jaques Valée and others.
-> Check out the work of Budd Hopkins and Dr David Jacobs.

Fire in the Sky scared the crap out of me. I do not doubt that people are being abducted. I believe that there is some kind of secret covert operation to make people believe that they have been abducted by "aliens'. This I believe is the trump card for when tptb are about to lose control. Or the Military Industrial Complex will use "aliens" as the next war excuse to make more billions of dollars. I have no proof, but neither does anybody else on the alien topic. I guess you could say that I have as much proof as anybody else.

Do you know anything about crop circles?
-> Watch the documentary "Corp Circles - Quest For Truth".
-> Watch the documentary "Corp Circles - Crossovers From Another Dimension".
-> Watch presentations by Nancy Talbot.

I know enough about crop circles to tell you we can go make a few right now. I think it is funny that you are using this as an example. These crop circles have been debunked so many times that it is amusing that you are using them as an example. But hey, I am not here to try to talk some sense on the matter. This comes back to the blind faith thing again.

Do you know anything about ancient texts?
-> Read "Chariots Of The Gods" by Erich von Däniken.
-> Watch the "Ancient Aliens" series.

I know enough that tells me that scientific reasoning was not available 2,000 years ago. Everything was "God's" will or done for the "Lord". I cannot use ancient text as a fool proof factual basis because anybody who thinks that the earth was flat or the earth is the center of the galaxy, has not one clue on the physical make-up of the universe. I know that people are going to take offense of this statement. That is fine. I beleive that ancients had common knowledge of the time. Not complex reasoning skills that can exclude the "work of god" through explanations of what else the situation could be. Politics were and still is King of the times. I could use Galileo as an example here.

Do yourself a favor and stop believing nonsense based on no knowledge.
Start doing your own research and educate yourself!
Don't just believe somthing. KNOW something. The evidence is there.

With all due respect I think you should heed your own advice. Start doing your own research. Quit listening to people in the mainstream trying to make a dollar off of you "believers".

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I still have not seen the evidence of aliens visiting this planet. Then if there is evidence of some life form. I need evidence that it was not made on this planet for some sick twisted agenda of TPTB. Genetics and bioengineering have came a long way. I would not put it past the folks in power to engineer an alien, to force an agenda.

This is my opinion responding to your opinion. I hope that I could clarify some of the "Facts" that you presented.

Thank you,
LJ01

1 is the answer for me. I strongly believe they are real and maybe they are already here on Earth. If aliens landed in the middle of time square and wanted to speak to the person who represented all of mankind? Who would you pick?

reply to post by smokingman2006


How many people have done a number 1?

As for me i VOTE 1

Originally posted by Xadaz
reply to post by mrMasterJoe

 

I don't need to watch a bunch of propagadaist scare-mongering by fiction writers to know that if I look out at the sky at night, all i see is stars and planes.

Fiction right NASA can proove you just that, That they do exist

I will repeat my self but here it comes

And thats the only reason why Nasa Had To Fake all the moon landings on TV beacause of ufo but that doesn't mean they didn't land on the moon They did land all 6 of them. but not on tv. the tv versions was made in a studio because they didn't wont you to see the E.T.V just in case a extraterrestrial vehicle will stop by the camera on live tv

UFO sightings by NASA Mercury 7
lots of ufo



UFO - NASA - UFO Missed by Ground Based Energy Pulse Wepon


Evidence is here you just need to open your eyes

reply to post by liejunkie01


Believing that we are involved in an enormous conspiracy to do with TPTB is just as far out as believing that we are being visited by aliens. If what you say is true, it would involve having access to technology that we could not comprehend, vehicles that can make u-turns at 3000 mph - this would probably mean that TPTB have travelled to other stars in our galaxy using the technology that they possess (because if they own that technology, they have a far greater understanding of physics than us, therefore faster than light travel is probably possible). If this technology is possible for our "rulers" then why can't it be possible that other life forms have developed this technology too? Also, to make those people think they are being abducted by grey alien beings would require some serious bio-engineering.

reply to post by smokingman2006

How many ATS Members here believe in Alien lifeforms

Yes (1)

and Alien spacecraft ?

Probably, although not sure (3)

Visiting Earth

No (2)

reply to post by knowneedtoknow


These vidoes are well known. As a matter of fact, I find these videos the best evidence we have of "something". Whether or not these things are alien, Intelligent, or have been here longer than us and we are the aliens, is still up in the air. I see anomalies. I am interested in a lifeform that lives in little or no atmosphere. They do not have to be alien. Just not seen by modern man. This is only my opinion. These objects do not say, "look I'm alien", so I am still up in the air on this one.(speaking of the second video). This is only speculation.

I want to beleive, but the evidence is not there. You call it evidence. I call it an anomalie.

1. I have seen several UFOs, and do believe that I have been abducted at least twice during my lifetime. I care not whether anyone disbelieves me. Common sense coupled with research would indicate that the subject matter would hold some hefty weight regarding the fact that people around the world are experiencing events largely suppressed by the willfully ignorant majority.

2- No

I do believe they exist out there somewhere, but, I don't think they are "here".

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Let me ask you a question. What could you do with almost a trillion dollars. This is from 2010. I believe that the 2011 is over 700 billion dollars. That is alot of dough.
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I tell you I could make some wicked stuff with an unlimited budget and the smartest minds on the planet. Money is no option with tptb. What type of research are they doing on Plum island and Area -51 and all of the other top secret installations. We do not know. It could be aliens, but I believe it is something more sinister. With the right types of tools and knowledge you can build anything as long as it is feasable.

I cannot overlook the possibility that aliens are a cover or "front" for the secret types of technology these billions and trillions of money are producing. I beleive that they want you to beleive that aliens are visiting.

reply to post by smokingman2006


vote for 1

3. Not certain.

I definitely perceive it to be a possibility, and I cannot prove a negative.

reply to post by liejunkie01


I totaly accept your point of view but another reason to belive is the Roswell crash in 47
since then you have computer chips and a big knowledge in technology .

before that from the year 0 to 1947 the big evolution was the telephone

So my question is how can you evolve more in 64 years (23360) days after the crash then 1947 years (710655)days of past history? you need some kind of help no

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2 NO

reply to post by smokingman2006

2 NO

UFO doesn't = ALIEN LIFEFORMS

ALIEN LIFE FORMS = DECEPTION

There's bound to be another lifeform out there, on another habitable planet other than us human beings here on Earth. Otherwise, we are being kept in the dark and maybe we're just like ants in an antfarm. We'd be just wasting our lives not knowing what's beyond the horizons, my fellow ATS members. That's a sad thing for all us to live our lives out just like that.

And yes. 1 for yes. I believe there is alien lifeform and some kind of spacecraft existed here in this universe. Someone out there, please help us out.

2, because the ufos origin is earth and not another planet.

3

Are there Aliens out there, I believe a resounding yes (1) it would be utter arrogance to believe we are the only ones.

As we investigate our own planet it is clear that life is not an exception but will be flourish with the slightest of chances (water + heat) any pressure any temperature any nutrient!

As far as visiting Earth. I would like to believe and there is certainly a large amount of circumstantial evidence and/or old uncorroborated evidence. Ancient art suggest they have indeed visited. My only doubt here is that we live in a technological age with millions of phones with cameras and billions more people than there was in the past. If they are visiting us then there MUST be a decent normal photo, video and/or physical evidence with thousands of witnesses. All we get these days is night time, blurry, shaky videos or stills with a bright spot in the middle!!

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