Are you a "targeted individual" or a paranoid schizophrenic?

a reply to: sanitizedinfo

what I hear is both the normal sound and an interwoven hetrodyned announcement of some kind using the same normal sound

I live in a tropical place where most rooms that are not airconditioned are equipped with fans.

Long long ago, when we were naughty boys who smoked things we shouldn't, my friends and I would giggle stupidly about hearing 'voices in the fan'.

We never thought they were real, though.

I don't think the concepts are mutually exclusive, you can be a paranoid person and legitimately have people coming after you.

a reply to: Astyanax

So, I've heard tons of claims like that, I figured out how to stop the noise talking from fans.

Interesting you should bring up "talking fans". Been there, done that - LOL!

The brain naturally looks for patterns and connections - we all do it, but some people go above and beyond a rational cut-off point and begin obsessive fixations....one thing leads to another - the amygdala kicks into high gear and the next thing you know - BAM! Paranoia soars out of control and one can make erroneous associations and fear based conclusions without even realizing it.

I've heard 'voices" coming from machines that have a repetitive pulse or humming frequency as well. The first time it happened it caught me off guard ( it started as a series of poetic beat-based dialogue in time with the pulse, then moved into a beautiful choir of singing voices after an hour or so ). That manifestation was my first and most enjoyable auditory hallucination of that nature. The ones since then....eh....not so much....too chaotic and distracting.

Through a bit of research and inward reflection/trial and error testing, I discovered that sometimes I was subconsciously projecting a level of my own thoughts onto the pulses....because I had gotten "used to it" over the years. A simple pulse would trigger latent associations and I would end up involuntarily mimicking an auditory hallucination scenario.

These days, instead of looking for patterns unconsciously or allowing my brain to 'manifest' a false positive - I focus on the source of the sound and attempt to envision the internal mechanics creating the pulse/hum/whatever instead of falling into the trap of 'listening to the voices' and falling into the slow and gradual slide into delusional and paranoid thinking.

It takes a bit of mental effort and focus to pull out of the 'voices' should they start up - but practice makes perfect.

If the pulse or repetitive stimulus is too strong or loud and one cannot pull themselves away from hearing embedded messages - simply walk way and relocate to a quiet area or, if such an alternative is not possible - turn on a little pocket radio or mp3 player and crank up some good music to drown out the unpleasantness.

There are ways around the majority of such types of stimulus - the main thing one has to overcome is the fixation aspect of continuing to allow oneself to be subjected to unwanted, unpleasant and easily avoided influences.


A person suffering from such invasive voices from such sources as mentioned above has to WANT this phenomenon to stop...and then follow through with a coping skill that gets their mind moving in a more positive and healthy direction.

That last fact alone can sometimes be the hardest hurdle to jump when one is in a full blown paranoid episode.

I also "hear" the fans and I hear voices coming out of the furnace vent. When I was little I believed that it was the voices of the people in hell because it was a gas furnace and they were being burned.

Gangstalking is a cruel joke played on vulnerable people with mental illness.

I've only heard intelligent interactions with my thoughts, its always been like a phone call using surround sound. I used to spend hours telepathicly fighting nueral interactive character programs. Over time I was shown the way out.. Today i only hear my name called randomly.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

A person suffering from such invasive voices from such sources as mentioned above has to WANT this phenomenon to stop...and then follow through with a coping skill that gets their mind moving in a more positive and healthy direction.

For a healthy person, this isn't an issue. It's a hallucination, not a delusion, and is recognized as such. One recognized, it can be ignored, and it goes away.

Obviously it is not as easy for sanitizedinfo and others who share the same condition. But if that member could recognize, even momentarily, that the voices he is hearing aren't real, don't you think his chances of overcoming his present distress might improve?

a reply to: Astyanax

Meds are overrated and don't work all that well. I still hear things, see things, feel things, smell things, and taste things.

I still have voices in my head and I still get messages from everything around me.

a reply to: Astyanax

Actually its very easy to create my own silence, ive been forced to use multiple ways beyond meds

a reply to: Astyanax

Double post

originally posted by: sanitizedinfo
a reply to: Astyanax

Actually its very easy to create my own silence, ive been forced to use multiple ways beyond meds

Faraday cage?

reply to: Restricted

Not at all, i use lifesign blocks and physical/mental internal movements of brain /body.

Coal tar soap on feet legs hips checks, small amount on teeth
Weedblock fabric hanging
Wax on pipes and metals and windows
Keep renewing and moving hanged blocks

a reply to: sanitizedinfo

Sounds like you've got it bad.

a reply to: Restricted

Well you haven't been through the god, devil scenarios, but lately I'm doing good

originally posted by: sanitizedinfo
a reply to: Restricted

Well you haven't been through the god, devil scenarios, but lately I'm doing good

Oh, I've lived through my own little God/Satan interviews. We still talk. I've been informed I'm going to hell complete with smell of burning brimstone.

a reply to: Restricted

It starts to become obvious what kind of minds are behind this. I'm not gonna place blame, just learn how to silence them forever, that's. A. T.i s best defence

a reply to: Astyanax

I'm no position to be judge or jury in such matters.

For many schizophrenics the voices are not only real - they are constant companions (this is true in my case...I've grown up hearing them.)

Reiterating over and over that the voices aren't real is a futile endeavor.

For those on the Schizophrenic spectrum, the voices are - most definitely - completely real for them....and to deny that simple fact, is to completely deny that individual's reality, experiences and perceptions. It's dehumanizing and immediately puts most on the defensive.

Even after hearing from a million people that the voices "aren't real" doesn't stop those voices from chattering away the rest of the day and night. I daresay, in some extreme cases - that some individuals with this disorder have better relationships with their voices than they do with anyone out in the so-called "real world". Some do, some don't. It's all an individual and unique manifestation for most...there might be some thematic parallels, but there are also some highly personalized aspects.

For a lot of people who report voices, they talk of them so often, and are reluctant to seek medication that will remove such a familiar (and somehow comforting) aspect of their lives. I don't take medications for my voices - I take them because I hate the intensive and frightening psychotic breaks from reality. The voices are the least of my concern....I can deal with them. The meds don't null them out anyway.

A more positive and forward moving approach would be engaging a schizophrenic about his/her voices along the lines of:

"Oh? What do you guys talk about?"

It doesn't invalidate the experience, and offers more insight in the long run.


(sorry for the short response and delay...I just recently got home from my therapy walk and I'm still a bit cluttered mentally.)

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

There is one voice that is kind. I am loathe to lose it.

I'm a paranoid schizophrenic for now, and will be a targeted individual down the road when mankind finally wakes up.