Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?

Fascinating. I just happened to stumble across a movie last night called "Absolute Proof" or something like that, and they showed the same video of the surgery and the independent lab results as the OP, so odd timing to find this thread.

As I recall, the labs did not know what they were testing, and ended up coming to the conclusion that it was a piece of a meteorite, given the extra-terrestrial properties of the compounds. They did not know that it had been removed from a person's body. Now, I have not held the lab results in my own hands, so the skeptic in me is not 100% convinced, but it does seem like pretty compelling evidence.

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Not really. A chunk of rock could have hit something, reduced in speed to a couple miles per hour, lodged into his chin, and he'd think it a bug bite or something.

People get shot at bullets going full speed all the time and they never know. It is perfectly possible for a rock from space to do the same and for the victim to think simply it a bug bite or something.

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I really don't understand that post that you said at all... Curious on what you meant by that whole thing. You had a reply by two people on there.

When I was about 14 years old I had a cyst on my knee that eventually got big enough/annoying enough that I got it removed surgically.

They found a foreign object and sent it to the lab to find out what it was (I was told the cyst had a chance of coming back but didn't expect it too).

To this day I still have a small lump (the cyst) on my knee and they were never able to tell me what the foreign object was.

Thought I'd share this because it popped into my head once I read the OP. I'd really like to know if the foreign object is still in my knee at all and/or if it's possible to find out what was originally in my knee if there is nothing left there.

But why would it grow back? It's definitely not just scar tissue FYI.

reply to post by OrionHunterX
I am so glad everyone is not jumping on here saying "hear that already, move on" I have known about this since the early 90's but there are so many coming of age that have not heard about Dr Lier. He is very legite, and these texts have been shown on shows like Discovery etc. He had to stop his work in the late 90's due to a heart attack so many just forgot about it. There are always going to be people that want proof in their hand but will do nothing to research it themselves. Saying something is fake doesn't make anything fake unless "you have the proof it is fake". If not do some of your own research on the matter whatever it is if you are interested in it. That's how one learns about things: researching

You forgot to mention the fact that there were absolutely NO scars above the implants' locations. If the patients were stepping on sharp objects with their feet or hands, there would have been blood and scars or some signs of skin intrusion, but there was no evidence for any of that at all. The only possibility left is that someone used some type of technology that cuts into the skin without leaving any trace of a cut. Sounds like a laser scalpel to me.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions. ..........

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

Did they? Care to show us where that is stated on their websites.... or show us exactly where they have documented that silly claim.

Why doesn’t the MSM come out with such accounts and accord it more publicity?

Accord what more publicity? Show us the report from the Universities where they state what you claim

Why would a claim that an object originated from outside of Earth be "silly" by default? I imagine its only silly because you disagree with their findings. Whereas if a NASA scientist told you he had an extraterrestrial rock you'd accept that without question. Your tendency to believe everything the government tells you doesn't really fit in with someone who is supposed to be a skeptic.

Extraterrestrial objects are found on Earth every month if not every day. So its not silly to me that any given person could send something to a lab and determine it was extraterrestrial in origin.

Its a perfectly good question to ask for a citation and further information about the claims. But its its ridiculous to believe the government doesn't lie on a regular basis about just about everything, and that furthermore the more power the politician has the bigger liar he/she is. Your level of trust in the government is much too high. Of course I'm not referring to just this thread but all of them in general.

As nobody answered it, I will repeat what I asked some pages back: does anyone know if it's possible for a small object to get inside someone's body before birth? Are there any cases like that?

Originally posted by ArMaP
As nobody answered it, I will repeat what I asked some pages back: does anyone know if it's possible for a small object to get inside someone's body before birth? Are there any cases like that?

YES !

But they are only found in the left side, or right side of the face, or in the back of the head.
Implants are not usally found in that place as shown in the video.just isnt.

reply to post by Immortalgemini527


Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

Are you saying that there are known cases of objects that entered someone's body before their birth but that those cases are only of objects in left or right side of the face or the back of the head?

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by ArMaP
As nobody answered it, I will repeat what I asked some pages back: does anyone know if it's possible for a small object to get inside someone's body before birth? Are there any cases like that?

YES !

But they are only found in the left side, or right side of the face, or in the back of the head.
Implants are not usally found in that place as shown in the video.just isnt.

edit on 3-4-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)

You have evidence of this?.....is this fact or opinion?

Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by Immortalgemini527

 

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

Are you saying that there are known cases of objects that entered someone's body before their birth but that those cases are only of objects in left or right side of the face or the back of the head?

just implants,i dont know about before birth,except if your lucky to have 1 out of the 3% thats missing in the human genome,other than that,no.unless it was out there,they dont implant that young,the body cant handle that at such a young age,they usaully wait till older.3 or better,and thats if its nessary.
but it stopped when bush sr was in office,all the implants stopped,that war was over...i think?

Originally posted by Argyll

Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by ArMaP
As nobody answered it, I will repeat what I asked some pages back: does anyone know if it's possible for a small object to get inside someone's body before birth? Are there any cases like that?

YES !

But they are only found in the left side, or right side of the face, or in the back of the head.
Implants are not usally found in that place as shown in the video.just isnt.

edit on 3-4-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)

You have evidence of this?.....is this fact or opinion?

Its neither fact or opinion,i talk in %, i never will say anything under a 98% rate of truthfulness,if its in the 97% range or lower,it will be noted.

I have a thread i did called The Sierra Club and the trip to Shenandoah Valley Who Else ?
If i ever get conclusive proof from some one else in some form of matter of the incident like mine,then i will go much furthure in giving you info,but the thing is,i still to this day dont believe it,so its well below tthe rate of info i would give out...hopefully one day.hopefully.
its the only reason why i am here,nothing more nothing less,its like a quest to find some one that can shed light ,but until then,it was just something that i cant fully explain.

Lets play Spock. Logic dictates that if Aleins travel here then they have capabilities far beyond our own. By this point in time they have a knowledge of our species sufficant to realize that we are no threat. There are no Aleins. These are all government sponsored technology. The UFO's are ours.There is no logical rational for Alein life not making themselves fully known.

"Meteorite hit him in the face without knowing"

lol are you serious?If you drop a penny off the Empire state building it could kill someone...meteorites come from space lol.And the thing was about the size of a fly.You would feel the smack of a fly hitting your face just walking fast out side.But this thing came from space so it had to be going fast and wouldn't it be hot?Wouldn't something so small dissolve in our atmosphere?Wouldn't something so small be caught by the wind?

I know you're trying your hardest to believe we're the only ones around.But that's ignorant.There are just too many things that suggest otherwise.Besides there being millions upon millions of species of life living in millions of different climates(with no Sun even)right here on earth what about the billions upon billions of planets out there.And besides all the unexplained videos of ufo's out there..you sit there and say we're the only ones?Serious?What do the people that make hoaxes and don't come forward get out of making hoaxes?

"Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, has traveled to remote areas in Antarctica, Siberia, and Alaska, amongst others, for over ten years now, collecting and studying meteorites. He gave Fox News.com early access to the out-of-this-world research, published late Friday evening in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.Though it may be hard to swallow, Hoover is convinced that his findings reveal fossil evidence of bacterial life within such meteorites, the remains of living organisms from their parent bodies — comets, moons and other astral bodies. By extension, the findings suggest we are not alone in the universe, he said".

Source www.foxnews.com...

So if life has been found on meteorites then there could be a species out there that has evolved like we have..if you believe in evolution!

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Wowzers that was funny!!!...I just think that with our perception having a somewhat sketchy past it's hard to say that the metals and device itself is extraterrestrial in origins. In America the family heirloom is time honored and I believe should be taken into consideration when levying our conclusions.

The title of this post is fairly misleading and full of hyperbole. This "evidence" is intriguing, but is a long way from being either a smoking gun or proof of anything. This guy needs to publish his findings in a legitimate journal and allow his evidence to be peer reviewed. This is how good science works folks. Anything else and your doomed to be criticized and called a phony.

I'm on this site because I believe something strange is happening on this planet and that we are somehow deeply connected to an extraterrestrial presence. But this is not the proof we need.

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Dr Leir, DPM, is a surgeon from Southern California who has been performing operations on patients for over 30 years. He is a Podiatric Surgeon and has acted as Chief of Podiatry in many Southern California hospitals.

Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions.

Amazingly, on analysis with a scanning electron microscope at NMT Laboratory, it was found that the implant WAS CONNECTED TO THE PATIENT’S NERVE ENDINGS! It was also covered by unidentifiable biological material that prevented ‘rejection’ by the patient’s immune system.

Implant connected to the patient’s nerve endings as
seen through the electron microscope.

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WERE MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

edit on 3-4-2011 by OrionHunterX because: (no reason given)

BS - on this story . . .

First, and I'll apologize if this has been mentioned earlier as I stopped reading on page two, there is no such monster as the University of California, Santiago. So this part of the story is already fabricated, I doubt the rest holds up to scrutiny either. There is a NMT, with an electron microprobe lab, and one of their listed areas of research is identification of mystery materials . . . I see nothing in their archives relating to Leir or foreign metals connected to nerve endings. If any of you have a link to their report . . . please point me in the right direction.

Since I can't corroborate either testing source (and one is totally fictitious!), I'm sticking with BS.

Edit to add: Here is a link to the UC campuses before for the "proof" police come calling . . .
UC Campuses

Originally posted by solomons path

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Dr Leir, DPM, is a surgeon from Southern California who has been performing operations on patients for over 30 years. He is a Podiatric Surgeon and has acted as Chief of Podiatry in many Southern California hospitals.

Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions.

Amazingly, on analysis with a scanning electron microscope at NMT Laboratory, it was found that the implant WAS CONNECTED TO THE PATIENT’S NERVE ENDINGS! It was also covered by unidentifiable biological material that prevented ‘rejection’ by the patient’s immune system.

Implant connected to the patient’s nerve endings as
seen through the electron microscope.

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WERE MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

edit on 3-4-2011 by OrionHunterX because: (no reason given)

BS - on this story . . .

First, and I'll apologize if this has been mentioned earlier as I stopped reading on page two, there is no such monster as the University of California, Santiago. So this part of the story is already fabricated, I doubt the rest holds up to scrutiny either. There is a NMT, with an electron microprobe lab, and one of their listed areas of research is identification of mystery materials . . . I see nothing in their archives relating to Leir or foreign metals connected to nerve endings. If any of you have a link to their report . . . please point me in the right direction.

Since I can't corroborate either testing source (and one is totally fictitious!), I'm sticking with BS.

Edit to add: Here is a link to the UC campuses before for the "proof" police come calling . . .
UC Campuses

edit on 4/3/11 by solomons path because: linkage

edit on 4/3/11 by solomons path because: (no reason given)

Well there apparently is a University of California in Santiago, Chile. Didn't do any research about the university, but a quick google search gives an address:

Google Search

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by holtdani
www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com...

No sign of any official reports from the Universities there....

So just why are people unable to show the reports from the Universities that did the testing? Unless they never actually tested them!

The video was more than 8 months old, but still no reports....

edit on 3/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

So because their is no official report on something, that means that it did not happen ?

Are you serious ? like for real ???

That makes absolutely ZERO sense. But maybe that is how you go about rationalizing things in your life.