Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?

Originally posted by digitalf

To me this is obvious evidence of something extra-terrestrial that has been intentionally implanted and connected. The reasons why are as important as the implant metallurgical study.

I'm sorry but the chance that someone gets hit with a space pebble that just happens to implant without an entry wound is ludicrous to me. When evaluating probabilities I think it's just as easy to say the object has been manufactured and implanted for a specific reason by intelligent extra-terrestrial life - and to me that doesn't sound half as crazy - maybe that's just me.

This man could have had a small fragment of meteorite penetrate under his skin as a child, which healed over the years leaving no trace of an entry wound.
I think that might be a reasonable explanation, besides......even if it were ET implanting this meteorite....they would still leave entry wounds......unless they learned the art of magic.

reply to post by holtdani


It's been a long time since I last posted (due to "Corporate Governance" reasons)
but this topic really got my attention and this is what I understand:

There are trace elements of Sodium, Potassium, Lithium and Phosperous...which is to be EXPECTED
if neural dendrites connect to the item...as these are the substances (at least the Na, K and Li elements)
used for nerve-ending conduction.

The BIG thing is the Boron, Magnesium, Beryllium and Calcium which are used in Ceramics
SPECIFICALLY GLASS CERAMICS...which would make this substance (one reason the calcium is there!)
a BioGlass which is biologically inert.

The Magnesium, Beryllium and Boron would make the crystaline substance PEIZOELECTRIC
where an electrical signal would make the material vibrate at specific frequencies
for an application such as a radiative antennae where brain signals
vibrate the nodule at RF frequencies which can be read by an RFID reader....OR....
for use as an inductive antennae where acoustic AND/OR radio frequency energy
would INDUCE vibration in the nodule and thus create an electrical signal to the
nerve endings...The resulting electrical signals to the nerve endings could be
MODULATED to send specific messages to the brain.

Boron is also used to make Boro-Silicate glasses like Pyrex high-temperature resistant
and Beryllium is used for cold-temperature anti-embrittlement in SPACE applications.

What needs to be done is a PET (Positron Emission Tomography) and MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging scans) that are done where MANY RF frequencies and their specific harmonics are sent to the nodule
so as to see the glucose uptake of the active neurons so we can see WHERE in the brain those
nodule-to-nerve connections end up. I suspect the "capillary nerves" will end up sending "Data"
to the audio and visual cortexes or to the long-term memory storage areas of the brain.

In this case, a patient with a still-implanted nodule will need real-time MRI/PET scans
during an RF emissions study...I suspect this is a TRACKING DEVICE or something
equivalent to a biologically based RFID tag ...OR...a basic biological radiative/inductive antennae.

Hope this helps!

Why does that video only have 2k views. Wouldn't this be all over the media and news if it was genuine.

There will never, ever be a smoking gun until Stephen Hawking himself rides in an alien spaceship and every single scientist in the world individually finds an alien corpse on his front stoop. And even then, it will simply be a mass hallucination.

Synthesis of precious metals - Wiki

Originally posted by Logical one
I think that might be a reasonable explanation, besides......even if it were ET implanting this meteorite....they would still leave entry wounds......unless they learned the art of magic.

edit on 3-4-2011 by Logical one because: (no reason given)

I think a cave man would think my iPhone magic - I wouldn't expect our current understanding of technology to explain exactly how it got there. I think we can agree that an unusual object was there and that's a step we can both take in the right direction to the truth whatever that may be.

Pretty sure all of Leirs work has been covered here numerous times but nevertheless its always worth a re-review of things.
I am under the belief that the tiny shards are merely hardened fatty deposits and we all have them floating round our body, Everything else Leir claims is merely his own words with nothing to back up his claims.
There are indeed alien objects in many people, they range from nail fragments, paint chips, splinters, pencil lead (not actually lead) and so on.
I am in no way against the idea of UFO's and aliens btw, I just tend to be quite strict when it comes to unsubstantiated claims like what Leir does.
He has yet to present evidence that the extracted fragments or 'chips' are of extra terrestrial origin.

reply to post by DarthChrisious

Yes, but even then the E.T. would only get a casual mention while most of the article focused on that she was wearing when she made the discovery

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What is interesting to me, that I saw on the discovery(?) channel documentary about this, is that the object stopped emitting electromagnetic properties after it was removed. Did anyone else see this, I will try and find a link.

Here is a book that the same(confirm?) Dr. Lier wrote:
Amazon.com

alienscalpel.com

So far, Mr. Leir claims to have extracted many objects, with most of them being metallic in nature. Some have been noted to emit radio frequencies and many were found to be attached to nerve endings. Oddly enough, this is what we would expect to find if aliens were tagging humans and using them as watchers.

Weirdsci.com

Also, the documentary was on the History Channels Ancient Aliens, if anyone wants to 'look that up'.

Originally posted by holtdani

Originally posted by BattleStarGal
Is it legal for a DPM (Foot Doctor) to do surgery on a patient's neck?

I'm just wondering......

. Leir holds academic degrees of Doctor of Podiatric Medicine, Bachelor of Science, and Associate in Arts.

Dr. Leir is Board Certified in the following boards:

The National College of Foot Surgeons
The American Board of Podiatric Sports Medicine
The American Board of Foot Surgery
The American Circulatory Society and the Society for Non-Invasive Vascular Technology.

A very intelligent foot doctor

So intelligent and successful, that he begs for donations and hawks his wares on his website

www.alienscalpel.com...

I really have trouble believing people who have allegedly made earth changing discoveries, especially scientists, who then think it is okay to charge people money for the privilege of knowing all the facts.

Originally posted by digitalf

I think a cave man would think my iPhone magic - I

I'll give you that one.

In fact that's one of the arguments that I use against the belief by some that our governments are back engineering ET spaceships and technologies.........we simply wouldn't be capable of understanding their technologies and we would be no better off than a caveman would be if he was given an internet phone to back engineer.

Back to the wound thing......I remember watching a TV programme showing one of Lier's patient's getting an implant removed....and Lier was saying the same thing about no entry wound etc.

The "implant" was given over to the show's team to be tested independently by some lab......but turns out that the fragment was ordinary glass or metal (I can't recall which)......but it also turns out that this man worked manually in an environment ( A scap yard or something similar) where he could have picked up this fragment which entered his body......he also happen to be involved in a heavy car accident some years before.
So it seems that given enough time entry wounds can disappear as the wound heals over......in any case Lier was fooled by it!

reply to post by StargateSG7

What needs to be done is a PET (Positron Emission Tomography) and MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging scans) that are done where MANY RF frequencies and their specific harmonics are sent to the nodule
so as to see the glucose uptake of the active neurons so we can see WHERE in the brain those
nodule-to-nerve connections end up. I suspect the "capillary nerves" will end up sending "Data"
to the audio and visual cortexes or to the long-term memory storage areas of the brain.

Whatever methods are decided upon, it seems precious little genuine study is being done. I wonder why?

Perhaps there are other doctors besides Lier finding these things, but wouldn't we expect that one of them is curious enough to want to study the item, it's functions, etc., before extraction?

That seems to be the logical sequence demanded by such odd items, especially since this was not a one-time event. The fact that this doesn't seem to be happening makes me wonder why.

Dr. Lier, move over next time, call in a serious scientist, and discover everything you can. Then, send it to be pulverized by a lab, but only then!

JR

Originally posted by Logical one
in any case Lier was fooled by it!

rant

So your a doctor and you assisted him during the operation? I don't necessarily believe this either, but your opinion is heavily biased, Dr. Lier's may be as well, who knows.

If you are going to be skeptical, remain skeptical about everything you don't know as factual, and not just points that reinforce what you want to be true. I have always thought this was a rather interesting prospect of evidence, unlike a lot of UFO related material on the web.

In any case, you shouldn't believe anything because "Ha Ha, what a bunch of fools", I laugh at your intellectual inferiority. AKA arrogance, AKA my opinions on the internet are right and yours are wrong.

/rant

I knew about this years ago..Why it is not in mainstream media ia beyond me.

Perhaps we shouldn't jump the gun and assume it's from an alien right away. I'm not sure WHAT it is, but as a stand-alone object, it's rather interesting. It's something foreign that was found in the body and said to have been manufactured. I think that's interesting enough on its own. But I probably shouldn't get too comfortable with the idea. If this has been discovered in the 90's and no one's paid attention, I'm not sure what to think of that. As well as the fact that throughout all the years, there's been little-to-no evidence of aliens. There's been more evidence of ghosts than extraterrestrials, All I've seen is a few grainy videos on Youtube. I'm sure they exist, but I can't go assuming that this specific object is alien. I'll keep on eye on this, though.

Originally posted by RSF77
So your a doctor and you assisted him during the operation? I don't necessarily believe this either, but your opinion is heavily biased, Dr. Lier's may be as well, who knows.
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No I'm not a doctor.....but on the programme Lier was convinced it was an ET implant .........independent test showed that this "implant" was in fact a normal shard of metal or glass.......so Lier was definitely fooled in this instance.

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reply to post by Logical one


You could very well be right, there is a decent probability that this could a hoax without anyone being able to know, sorry about the rant.

Who did independent studies? Sorry if it is already in the thread, I may have missed it?

Edit: Well now that I am back to my senses I have to admit there is no way to know really. Sorry once again, my opinion is no more valuable than yours. I have seen a lot of things on the internet, and once in my life, that leads me to believe some of this might be legit, it is a real struggle to remain skeptical to everything.

about a week ago i saw an article about how scientists are developing nano "robots" that can be placed to the damaged part of your body and the nerves connect itself to it as it is in the nerves nature or something. That somehow should help paralysed people to walk again and stuff. Maybe those people were just a test-subjects. We all now that an average time period between developing some tech and presenting it to the public is around 10 years or so

P.S.: i'm not a scientist, so i cant present everything i read in that article as i understand just half of it ..

reply to post by dereks


why does it have to be official to be true. if alien ships land on your house and the media or government says it was flares or something i guess its not true. the word official has lost its meaning today, people lie and the truth gets covered up. disclosure has yet to come, so you cant expect universities to be releasing those types of reports.