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Near proof of HAARP causing earthquakes, and direct evidence that contradicts HAARP website

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posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by 1beerplease
reply to post by badw0lf
 


oh god your one of them... and your australian as well, bugger. are you a debunker that gets paid by ATS ( CIA front ) to pound other peoples threads to make it sound stupid!, ridiculous and BS??

peace


No, Im freelance.

I get paid by subscription.

Wanna help?

PS - to whoever starred your post - thanks I needed the $2000 for the effort, next time, be more subtle please.



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posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds

Originally posted by 1beerplease
reply to post by badw0lf
 


oh god your one of them... and your australian as well, bugger. are you a debunker that gets paid by ATS ( CIA front ) to pound other peoples threads to make it sound stupid!, ridiculous and BS??

peace


SO, ATS is a cia front, why are you here? And are you generally delusional enough to think anyone who disagrees with your half baked theories is a paid disinfo agent?

please



SHHHHHH You're ruining my fund cover!

You must be a counter-disinfo agent...

Why you!!!!!

*shakes fist*



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
I could PROVE HAARP makes people stupider. Just look at this thread! But anyone who disagrees with me is paid diinfo, trying to fool you into believing in a HAARP induced fantasy.


Sorry I posted under a different account by mistake..

What I meant to say was

I could PROVE HAARP makes people stupider. Just look at this thread! But anyone who disagrees with me is paid diinfo, trying to fool you into believing in a HAARP induced fantasy.

...

There..

... uh DoH!!



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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I really think we are starting to see the patterns of weather manipulation. Look when I was a kid growing up in North Georgia I remember 4 seasons. I remember my grandmother talking about how she couldn't wait for spring or fall so she could turn the A/C or heat off and save on the power bills. Well there are only two seasons now it seems like. Summer and winter, and I think it's just a little bit fishy that the only two distinct season now are the seasons that require enegy use. Winter and summer. I hardly ever have days where I can just turn the heat off or a/c off and open the windows. I live in the mid-atlantic now and our power bills before we went solar averaged about 400-500 per month and the house is only 5 years old. I am beginning to think that the power companies may have a profitable stake in this weather modification. They are seeing record profits and before we went solar and let me tell you it was like pulling teeth to get our solar up. the county tried all kinds of injunctions to stop us we had to get a lawyer to threaten the county and BGE to get ours up. They fought us tooth and nail, I really think power companies are pushing this technology to drive the spring and fall seasons shorter and shorter so people use more energy.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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If you want proof of an Earthquake inducing machine, just research Nikola Tesla's testing of his original. Then assume military scientests have been working on it since the 30's.Which Russian then American's have been!!



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Amaterasu

Originally posted by Kharron
reply to post by THEDUDE86
 


So, by reading all of this, the USA attacked and inadvertently nuked Japan again, only this time it was during peace time and unprovoked?

Why?

Khar

edit: I am not trying to say this sounds silly, in fact it sounds very interesting but what is the motive? We need some kind of a motive for this crime to be attributed to the USA. Any clues?


Well, it's not the USA, per se, but the ones who have usurped and use the USA to Their ends. And if the goal is to sicken us (to make a profit off us) and kill us, this is a good start. We now have radiation oozing all over the planet - and it will continue to do so for a very long time to come.

It is a global plot.


If only they had thought to put nuke reactors on a major fault line in the first place, nature could have done this all for them..

Oh wait...



THIS IS STUPID.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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Yeah.....ALL of that is the imagination of Andrea Psoras....based on her "discovery" of that USAF document.

The USAF report was pure speculation, to begin with. It shoud be obvious to anyone with critical thinking skills, when reviewing the paper.

Andrea Psoras either lacks the intelligence to understand, or intentionally wishes to perpetuate hoaxes, through innuendo....not sure, yet which is the case here. Might need to ASK her......


Oh yeah. I'm sure you can prove these documents are a hoax and I'm looking forward to see you bring your evidences here.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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reply to post by 1AnunnakiBastard Yeah.....ALL of that is the imagination of Andrea Psoras....based on her "discovery" of that USAF document. The USAF report was pure speculation, to begin with. It shoud be obvious to anyone with critical thinking skills, when reviewing the paper. Andrea Psoras either lacks the intelligence to understand, or intentionally wishes to perpetuate hoaxes, through innuendo....not sure, yet which is the case here. Might need to ASK her......


I think you don't seem to understand that these papers have little to do with speculation. Certainly not the first two pages as you can see. Do you mean when general Gordon Sullivan says ''the technology is there, waiting for us to pull it all together'' that he was speculating? Wouldn't speculating be more like ''there is a probability that we can achieve such devices, however more research needs to be done''
Or are you saying that they just backed off and said, nah this is too evil, we won't do it.

tell me,
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posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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I don't think YOU seem to understand (nor, 1Annunakibastard) the reality:


I think you don't seem to understand that these papers have little to do with speculation....


Seems people will be SO inclined to believe virtually anything, nowadays....without doing the proper investigations first!


A hoax that has been around since 1996 accuses the Air Force of being involved in spraying the US population with mysterious substances and show various Air Force aircraft "releasing sprays" or generating unusual contrail patterns. Several authors cite an Air University research paper titled "Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025" that suggests the Air Force is conducting weather modification experiments. The purpose of that paper was part of a thesis to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather modification system to achieve military objectives and it does not reflect current military policy, practice, or capability.


www.brendanmichaeljames.com...


Really.....all you have to do, as well, is delve a bit more into this "Andrea Psoras"....she is a NUTBALL!!

Believes in the "Rapture", for one thing!! THAT is good enough for me, to label her as a total crackpot. The rest? Pure gravy on the crazy train to Nutsville......


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posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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What if they are using satellites, Air Force space plane, Aurora or something to that effect to control where the wave is directed.

I live in western NY and on either 4/29 0r 4/30 my girlfriend and I noticed 2 strange glowing lights that seemed to change color it was hard to tell. It was around 12:30 am, mind you at first I thought stars but I was looking at them and they seemed to be around the same distance from our location and were not moving as I looked at them for quite a while. I have since been out every night and they are not there either.

An hour later I went out and could not find them anywhere in the sky. I tend to look at the sky a lot at night as it's intriguing and get to see a lot of meteors too.

One was North West and the other was North East from us and I would have to say they were pretty close to Rochester area.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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The purpose of that paper was part of a thesis to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather modification system to achieve military objectives and it does not reflect current military policy, practice, or capability.


haha common that is a straight out lie, called denial. A thesis yeah right. That is a good one. If they would deny the existence of the document, that would be something else, but they clearly can't deny it, so they tell a lie.

''the technology is there, waiting for us to pull it all together'' general Gordon Sullivan

its your choice man.
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posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Nice work THEDUDE86.

I doubt you'll be killed, well not for this anyway.

Thousands of people have been saying this kind of thing about the 'project' for years, and we're still here so far.

Cavitation is a great candidate for the protracted roaring sky noises that are being reported globally.

Come to think of it, cavitation (high frequency vibratory phenomena) would also be a great candidate for causing the internal injuries of the thousands of birds that fell from the sky in AK, and around the world.




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posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by badw0lf

If only they had thought to put nuke reactors on a major fault line in the first place, nature could have done this all for them..

Oh wait...



THIS IS STUPID.


I notice on the map of the US... Many reactors are on the San Andreas fault - and a whole string of 'em on the New Madrid line. I'm sure their placement was merely an oversight.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by tsloan
I really think we are starting to see the patterns of weather manipulation. Look when I was a kid growing up in North Georgia I remember 4 seasons. I remember my grandmother talking about how she couldn't wait for spring or fall so she could turn the A/C or heat off and save on the power bills. Well there are only two seasons now it seems like. Summer and winter, and I think it's just a little bit fishy that the only two distinct season now are the seasons that require enegy use. Winter and summer. I hardly ever have days where I can just turn the heat off or a/c off and open the windows. I live in the mid-atlantic now and our power bills before we went solar averaged about 400-500 per month and the house is only 5 years old. I am beginning to think that the power companies may have a profitable stake in this weather modification. They are seeing record profits and before we went solar and let me tell you it was like pulling teeth to get our solar up. the county tried all kinds of injunctions to stop us we had to get a lawyer to threaten the county and BGE to get ours up. They fought us tooth and nail, I really think power companies are pushing this technology to drive the spring and fall seasons shorter and shorter so people use more energy.




All new houses built here in the UK in the last 5 years have got Solar Panels on the roof.

Ours work so well that we actually sell electric back to the energy supplier so all our Electricity if basically free and it also heats the Hot water for us too.

I have Solar Power for my Amateur Radio and computers, even battery chargers.

It's got to be the way to go and a good investment if you have the money.

Shares of Solar power companies will be booming this next 5 years, well I think so, it's a no brainer!



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by kwakakev
Another thought, if this cavitation effect can work 100km up in the sky, what is to stop it working 20km down underground and hit it right at the source for an earthquake?


Well, in the ionosphere, you've got loose electrons you can bang around pretty easily with a radio wave.

20km underground, you can't really get a radio wave TO it - the ground tends to dissipate radio energy as heat. And then you're sort of delivery limited - the energy density of, say HAARP 100km up is really quite low, even pumping in several MW of energy at ground level - just a 20km distance is an issue, but when you hum in a staggering path loss, 3-4 MW of power isn't a lot, when you're talking about setting up macro-effects in rock.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:16 PM
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Don't worry, you 'finding' will not get you killed mainly because you have got it all wrong!


They are hardly going to kill you for that.

HAARP cannot cause earthquakes. End of story.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Bedlam

Originally posted by kwakakev
Another thought, if this cavitation effect can work 100km up in the sky, what is to stop it working 20km down underground and hit it right at the source for an earthquake?


Well, in the ionosphere, you've got loose electrons you can bang around pretty easily with a radio wave.

20km underground, you can't really get a radio wave TO it - the ground tends to dissipate radio energy as heat. And then you're sort of delivery limited - the energy density of, say HAARP 100km up is really quite low, even pumping in several MW of energy at ground level - just a 20km distance is an issue, but when you hum in a staggering path loss, 3-4 MW of power isn't a lot, when you're talking about setting up macro-effects in rock.



Decades ago simple devices were made to rock a small pendulum back and forth. They attached this tiny device to bridges and if they matched the harmonic frequency of the bridge they could get it to rock/sway....even fail.

You match the harmonic frequency of anything....very little power is needed to de-stabilize it. HAARP can destabilize fault lines causing earthquakes...and doesn't even need to be on high power.

What if the Russian Woodpecker transmission to the United States was merely feeding harmonic energy to the YellowStone SuperVolcano? Over time the emitted energy could destabilize the very little crust over the magma pool...causing the bulging we're seeing now and eventually....Boom....America's nuclear silos are buried in Ash....Russia has world dominance. Science always wins in the end.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Aromaz
The method is by magnetic resonance.


Whatever that is. I notice that people chunk in "resonance" and "harmonics" whenever they're trying to explain something like this. When you hear the term "magnetic resonance" with something like MRI, they're talking about aligning and flipping the spin axis of nuclear magnetic moments, not so much like ringing a tank circuit on a transmitter.



If for example there is a major solar flare, that also has a large pulse of magnetic energy leaving the sun; it will hit the earth's magnetosphere anything from 20 hours to 70 hours later - depend on the existing cloud speed. That will cause a rippling effect through all layers of atmosphere - and Terra Firma. This is a magnetic shock wave and Magnetism ALWAYS goes hand in hand with Electricity - which will declare 'feelings' in humans and animals, cloud formation, sounds, etc.


That much is sort of true. When it hits, you'll get a geomagnetic heave, which is where the issues with power transmission come from.



Now - IF the conditions are right such pulse from the sun will release the stress in the crust of Earth in that location - Earthquake.


And that's a bit of a stretch. It's been looked at and IIRC there doesn't appear to be a strong link between geomagnetic heave and earthquakes.



Now we get to frequency: The solar triggered event usually goes hand in hand with extreme high frequency - magnetic.


Not that I'm aware of - the solar magnetic influx is a static field.



HAARP is a low frequency radio signalling system. Depending on the geological structure in a location; the EHF can pass without any results, the VLF of HAARP can trigger the event.


HAARP doesn't directly transmit VLF - it induces it in the ionosphere. And during a geomagnetic storm, you generally don't have a well defined "quiet" electrojet to modulate. It's all going haywire.



THESE had all the signs of HAARP; Strange shapes and multi colour in clouds, electromagnetic phenomena, low frequency, vibrations, etc.


These "signs" are generally only found on CT websites where other CTers have decided they are signs.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:27 PM
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Originally posted by conar

Does the US Air Force and the US Navy ever fund anything that cant harm people?


Well, it's sort of their mission. But yes, most non-product oriented scientific research is funded by the military, whether it's got a direct use or not - you never know where something good will turn up.



DARPA's mission

DARPA’s approach is to imagine what capabilities a military commander might want in the future and accelerate those capabilities into being through technology demonstrations.


So is there any doubt that HAARP is a weapon?


Absolutely. That computer you're using - the processor? The other ICs in it? The basic tech is all military, funded by the military. It's used by the military, but it's not a weapon per se. It's a technology with military applications.

HAARP? Most of the military interest in it revolves around communication in some form. Some ponies were in the barn that are sort of off the comm track, but mostly, comm things. Getting some, preventing some, peeking here, preventing peeking there.



posted on Apr, 2 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Could HAARP and chem-trails work together? They put metals in the air, It could be used as a conduit or shield to stop or change the frequency to make it more accurate ....I could be way off but that is my 2 cents

peace




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