Israel was involved in 911

Airport Security In Israeli Hands The third crucial aspect of control that needed to be established was to gain control of airport security at all of the airports that the hijackings would originate from. Passenger screening needed to be handled by their operatives in order to allow certain people & certain items (i.e. weapons) onto the planes. Who ran airport security at all three ports of alleged hijackings? That would be ICTS International / Huntsleigh USA (wholly owned subsidiary) Owned by Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon. Both Israeli Jews. It is run by "experts" in the security and intelligence field. Israeli intelligence that is. Most employees were ex- Shin Bet agents. Is this airport security company, who ran the security at Boston's Logan Airport, as well as Newark, really that shoddy to allow 19 arabs on board 4 different planes with box-cutters, mace, and even a gun, or is there something else going on here? Menachem Atzmon, former Likud treasurer in the 80's, was involved in an Israeli political scandal involving Ehud Olmert and other Likudnits in Israel. He was criminally convicted of fraud, falsifying documents, as well as breaching Party Funding Law. ICTS was also in charge of airport security when the shoe bomber, Richard Reid, allegedly boarded a plane with a shoe bomb. If Reid is really a terrorist and not just an innocent man being used by the Mossad to incite more fear of terrorism, then why did ICTS let him board the plane knowing he could be dangerous? Another point indicating ICTS's complicity is that a few hours before the Patriot Act was voted on, it was edited to make foreign companies in charge of security on 9/11 immune to lawsuits. This would prevent American courts from demanding that ICTS provide testimony or hand over the missing surveillance videos from the airports.

How widespread are the services of this Israeli security firm? Is it active in all of America or just in a few select airports? And what do you think of the passage that the patriot act was modified to make foreign companies responsible for security immune to lawsuits, so that they dont have to turn over any data or give testimony? Has this been confirmed, or is it a hoax?

So I guess it wasnt a hoax.

Surprise, Surprise?

Ok the claim that passages were added in the patriot act that protects foreign firms from lawsuit or the obligation to give testimony checks out then.

1. Israel has a history of terrorism against the united states, perpetrated to blame it on any group of their chosing. Although Israel might have acted with the blessing of the US gov. (the uss liberty attack gives reason to suspect that) that part checks out.

2. The story about the messages received by Israelis as depicted on that particular site checks out.

What about this?

1) Larry Silverstein -- Larry is a Jewish American businessman from New York. Larry obtained a 99 year lease on the entire world trade center complex on 24 July, 2001. The towers were nearly worthless,being filled with asbestos, yet Larry “felt a compelling urge to own them”. Larry had breakfast in "Windows on the World" restaurant (107th Floor North Tower) every single morning. Larry was absent from this routine meeting on the morning of September the 11th. Larry’s two children, who also worked in the WTC, conveniently decided to take the day off as well. Larry Silverstein scored more than $4.5 Billion in insurance money as a result of the destruction of his complex. Silverstein was personal friends with Zionist media-magnate Rupert Murdoch, former Israeli president & infamous Zionist war criminal Ariel Sharon, as well as Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu. Silverstein was such good friends with Benjamin Netanyahu that he would speak with him on the phone every single sunday.

Does it check out or is some or all of it an invention/hoax?

1. Israel has a history of terrorism against the united states, perpetrated to blame it on any group of their chosing. Although Israel might have acted with the blessing of the US gov. (the uss liberty attack gives reason to suspect that) that part checks out.

2. The story about the messages received by Israelis as depicted on that particular site checks out.

3. Silverstein acquired the WTC lease in 1999 and took out the maximum terrorist insurance just weeks before the attack. That part seems to check out. He also took the day off on the morning of 911, his children did not show up at the towers either.

Can a hoax be found in the following?

2) Frank Lowy-- Lowy, a Czechoslovakia born Jew, was the owner of Westfield America, one of the biggest shopping mall conglomerates in the world. Lowy leased the shopping concourse area called the Mall at the World Trade Center, made up of approximately 427,000 square feet of retail floor space. Frank Lowy has quite an interesting history. He was a member of the Golani Brigade, and fought in the Israeli war of independence. Before this he was a member of Hagganah, a Jewish terrorist organization. Frank Lowy spends three months of the year at his home in Israel and has been described by the Sydney Morning Herald as "a self-made man with a strong interest in the Holocaust and Israeli politics." He funded and launched the Israeli Institute for National Strategy and Policy, which will "operate within the framework of Tel Aviv University" in Israel. He is also close friends with many top Israeli officials such as Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu, and Ehud Barak. He was also implicated in an Israeli Bank Scandal with Olmert. Frank Lowy steered clear of the WTC on 9/11. More information about Lowy can be further researched here.

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Pretty sad when you end up debating with yourself on your jew-hater threads.

But then perhaps not

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Attacking the messener again. It would be a jewjater thread if it would go against jews in general, but here names are named and faces are shown. So you are wrong.

I am not debating, I am trying to get people into looking in the info that has been posted by somebody else on the internet. I am not going to take it as it is written because its on the internet so I ask people to look into it, to see if it can be debunked. If nobody has a counterpoint to it, Ill assume the information is accurate, simply because usually people on here are quick to uncover points that can be debunked and prefer to respond with silence if they can not point out any flaws.

I know it isnt as exciting as the bickering that is common especially in this section.

I dont get why you are being so hostile. You come across as somebody whishing really hard that all of it would just go away. I wonder why.

Israel was not part of 9/11 end of story we know who did it and we know why. Their isn't any grand hidden knowledge about it. There are people in this world who use religon to harm others.

reply to post by Light311
Your cryptic response only serves to further muddy the waters, which I'm certain is one of their objectives. However, I'm not sure what you mean, and I can't tell who's team you are on. Can you be be more specific?

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There is nothing cryptic about it. He is referring to the Muslim extremists who hijacked four jetliners on 9/11/01.

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3. Silverstein acquired the WTC lease in 1999 and took out the maximum terrorist insurance just weeks before the attack. That part seems to check out.

Better check again. He leased the towers in July 2001 and in fact his insurance policies were not yet finalized on September 11, 2001. Pretty shoddy conspiracing on his part, huh?

Originally posted by hooper
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3. Silverstein acquired the WTC lease in 1999 and took out the maximum terrorist insurance just weeks before the attack. That part seems to check out.

Better check again. He leased the towers in July 2001 and in fact his insurance policies were not yet finalized on September 11, 2001. Pretty shoddy conspiracing on his part, huh?

Says who? He got payed out twice, because it was ruled that each airplane impact represents a different attack.

But back on topic. It has been established that

1. Israel has a history of terrorism against the united states, perpetrated to blame it on any group of their chosing. Although Israel might have acted with the blessing of the US gov. (the uss liberty attack gives reason to suspect that) that part checks out.

2. The story about the messages received by Israelis as depicted on that particular site checks out, as far as the facts are concerned, a lot of the info displayed is speculation and presented as such.

3. Silverstein acquired the WTC lease in 1999 and took out the maximum terrorist insurance just weeks before the attack. That part seems to check out. He also took the day off on the morning of 911, his children did not show up at the towers either.

and that

4. Frank Lowy was friends with many top Israeli officials such as Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu, and Ehud Barak. He was also implicated in an Israeli Bank Scandal with Olmert. Frank Lowy steered clear of the WTC on 9/11. More information about Lowy can be further researched here.

What that has to do with anything I dont know, but for now i am only looking to crosscheck the info.

Now on to

3) Lewis Eisenberg -- This Jewish criminal personality was the head of the Port Authority of New York and authorized the lease transfer to his Zionist brethren Larry and Lowy. Eisenberg was a large contributor to the Bush-Cheney presidential campaign, as well as a partner in the Jewish bank Goldman-Sachs. Eisenberg has been both a member of the Planning Board of the United Jewish Appeal/United Jewish Federation pro-Israeli government pressure group in the U.S. 4) Ronald Lauder - Billionaire Estée Lauder Cosmetics magnate. He was the chairman of NY Governor George Pataki's commission on privatization. He is the key individual who lobbied for the privatization of the WTC (Source, 9th pp) -- but he also got the former Stewart Air Force Base to become privatized. Oddly, the flight paths of flight 175 and flight 11 converged directly over this airport. Lauder is active in the following organizations: Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Jewish National Fund, World Jewish Congress, American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Anti-Defamation League, Jewish Theological Seminary. Ronald Lauder was elected president of the World Jewish Congress on 10 June, 2007. Lauder founded a school for the Mossad in Herzliya, Israel called the Lauder School of Government Diplomacy and Strategyy. He is the key Sayan involved in the preparation of 9/11.

Lets put aside the fact that people are called criminals without following up on why they would deserve such a label. Can anybody spot any infor that is false?

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And yet, even after it is pointed out to you that you are WRONG on something, you quote it and still insist that you are correct???? Wow........

reply to post by vipertech0596


Where did I ignore anything? Hooper said the towers werent insured, yet silverstein got a multi billion payout after the attacks, so the towers must have been insured after all, just in the nick of time too. Do you have anything to say about the parts I quoted? Its the purpose of me quoting it. I am starting to get the impression, that if anything more than petty litigation is asked for, that some people find the task quite overwhelming.

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The story about the messages received by Israelis as depicted on that particular site checks out,

By using another conspiracy site I suspect?

What that has to do with anything I dont know, but for now i am only looking to crosscheck the info.

Precisely you don’t know. That’s the flaw in your line of thinking. You want there to be some Jewish conspiracy for reasons only you know.

Perhaps you were fired from a company, run by someone with a Jewish sounding name.

Or maybe you are jealous of Larry’s success in life?

Are you jealous of Bill Gates or Ted Turner or Steve Jobs or Warren Buffet? What do all of these people have in common besides money? They worked hard and used the contacts they had to better themselves in life.

I hope you have something in life to be proud of besides your anti Jewish tirades.

Originally posted by Cassius666But back on topic. It has been established that

1. Israel has a history of terrorism against the united states, perpetrated to blame it on any group of their chosing. Although Israel might have acted with the blessing of the US gov. (the uss liberty attack gives reason to suspect that) that part checks out.

What? USS Liberty was apologized for and reperations paid out to the families of the victims. And as far as I can tell, most of the terrorist attacks carried out against US & UK interests by Israelis, were commited 20-30 years before 9/11, before they realised that it would be easier to have lobbyists working for them.

2. The story about the messages received by Israelis as depicted on that particular site checks out, as far as the facts are concerned, a lot of the info displayed is speculation and presented as such.

If you're referring to Odigo, then no, that most certainly does not check out.

www.911myths.com...

3. Silverstein acquired the WTC lease in 1999 and took out the maximum terrorist insurance just weeks before the attack. That part seems to check out. He also took the day off on the morning of 911, his children did not show up at the towers either.

As already explained, that is very much wrong. He acquired the WTC lease in July 2001 and the lease contract required him to take out an insurance policy (gee, I wonder why, perhaps the 1993 attacks?!). As for his non-presence at the WTC, it wouldn't have made much of a difference as his breakfast meeting at Windows on the World usually finished well before 8.46 am.

4. Frank Lowy was friends with many top Israeli officials such as Ehud Olmert, Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu, and Ehud Barak. He was also implicated in an Israeli Bank Scandal with Olmert. Frank Lowy steered clear of the WTC on 9/11. More information about Lowy can be further researched here.

Relevancy? I wasn't aware that being a jew and not being present at the WTC on 9/11 was a crime.

3) Lewis Eisenberg -- This Jewish criminal personality was the head of the Port Authority of New York and authorized the lease transfer to his Zionist brethren Larry and Lowy. Eisenberg was a large contributor to the Bush-Cheney presidential campaign, as well as a partner in the Jewish bank Goldman-Sachs. Eisenberg has been both a member of the Planning Board of the United Jewish Appeal/United Jewish Federation pro-Israeli government pressure group in the U.S

Relevancy?

4) Ronald Lauder - Billionaire Estée Lauder Cosmetics magnate. He was the chairman of NY Governor George Pataki's commission on privatization. He is the key individual who lobbied for the privatization of the WTC (Source, 9th pp) -- but he also got the former Stewart Air Force Base to become privatized. Oddly, the flight paths of flight 175 and flight 11 converged directly over this airport. Lauder is active in the following organizations: Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, Jewish National Fund, World Jewish Congress, American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee, Anti-Defamation League, Jewish Theological Seminary. Ronald Lauder was elected president of the World Jewish Congress on 10 June, 2007. Lauder founded a school for the Mossad in Herzliya, Israel called the Lauder School of Government Diplomacy and Strategyy. He is the key Sayan involved in the preparation of 9/11.

Again, relevancy?

The Stewart AFB bit makes it quite clear that whoever did this 'research' must have restricted said research to places like Stormfront. Why? Because Stewart AFB ceased being an Air Force Base on December 31, 1969. Since that date it has been an New York Air National Guard Base, hosting C-5 transport planes. A role it has never ceased performing, even through privatization.

Relevancy is not the issue here, I am looking to see if the info portrayed on the site is accurate or not. The story about odigo CHECKS OUT AS PORTRAYED ON THE SITE. They make no reference about where the Israelis who received the messages were or what the exact content of the message was. In fact if you compare the link you provided with the info found in the site, the info is the same, what is different is the tone with which it is presented and I guess they omitted some details.

Originally posted by Cassius666
Relevancy is not the issue here, I am looking to see if the info portrayed on the site is accurate or not. The story about odigo CHECKS OUT AS PORTRAYED ON THE SITE. They make no reference about where the Israelis who received the messages were or what the exact content of the message was. In fact if you compare the link you provided with the info found in the site, the info is the same, what is different is the tone with which it is presented and I guess they omitted some details.

You think?! They completely omitted the fact that the employees who recieved the message were in Israel, as well as the fact that the message they recieved didn't identify the WTC in the first place!

Personally, I see this as another case of mass belief in something when it is repeated enough times. You see the same topic brought up 15 or more times, and it automatically seems more credible. Your mind goes, "if so many people believe it, there must be a good reason." Unfortunately, every one of them could make the same mistakes and have misinformation.

I don't see the Israeli connection, in my opinion.