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U.S. Nuclear Scientist Found Dead, Knew Too Much ?

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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 08:37 PM
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This thread's headline grabbed my attention because I was looking for some info regarding mysterious scientists' deaths for a different ATS topic the other day. Here's the other conspiracy website I found, with an interesting and extensive list of very peculiar deaths in recent years. Could "suicide" be doublespeak for murder? IMO, it is quite plausible in quite a number of well-documented cases. Intriguing to read, at the very least.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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That's an unbelievable list



They can't all be coincidences....



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:32 PM
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Did anyone see him jump? A place well known for taking ones life, would be the ideal location to make a murder look like a suicide. But, we the sheeple shall take the 'official report' as such. No debate!
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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by ATempestTX
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
 


Possibly (as he knew more than we do)...he knows what is coming...


I think your correct. Everyone should ask themselves why is it that Libya and other things in the front page of news in the western world but not the 6 reactors in and possible 4 more that are melting down without a way to stop it. He might not wanted to keep quiet about the problem that is coming, and that is this has never happened before (except for Chernobyl and that was one reactor). And now we have all these reactors dumping poison into the biosphere of earth. When Chernobyl blew up, it did alot of damage that was has been hidden. They believe that 1 million people died in Europe from the incident with Chernobyl from cancers and large sections of land around the area is and will be uninhabitable for thousands of years, and its still leaking that is why russia is working to put a cement containment structure around it (almost like a shell within a shell).

So start adding up the nasty meltdown that has been going on for weeks and multiple reactors. Also add up that radiation is a cumulative poison also and then you have a poison machine increasing the radiation into the earth biosphere. He may have knew it and didn't want to keep quiet about it.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by notimportant
You guys are speculating why someone has commited suicide, do you guys have nothing better to do ????


If you cannot contribute to the conversation, then please, YOU find something better to do.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Thanks Signals. This has been a very interesting thread to read, and several good points of information have been asked and addressed by various persons.

Was it suicide or murder? We may never know. Knowing that he was a man concerned with safety issues, and the horrible tragedy in Japan, and his ties to similiar projects, I tend to lean towards an actual suicide.

If one reads this quote from by Antonin Artaud, it may have been the way Mr. Dickey felt. Of course neither I, or anyone else at this point really knows; this is merely a theory I am suggesting, as others have:


"If I commit suicide, it will not be to destroy myself but to put myself back together again. Suicide will be for me only one means of violently reconquering myself, of brutally invading my being, of anticipating the unpredictable approaches of God. By suicide, I reintroduce my design in nature, I shall for the first time give things the shape of my will. "

Antonin Artaud (1896–1948), French theater producer, actor, theorist. repr. In Artaud Anthology, ed. Jack Hirschman (1965). "On Suicide," no. 1, Le Disque Vert (Paris, 1925).


Source: quotes.dictionary.com...

Possibly he did feel responsible, even if indirectly, for what happened in Japan, or even knowing what could happen here in the U.S. since many of our nuclear facilities here are of the same type and design as in Japan.???


Here's a copy of a project Rodger Dickey was involved in (note # 5 and # 11) that I located on the net. This 72 page report is entitled:


PERSPECTIVES ON CHEMICAL HAZARD CHARACTERIZATION AND ANALYSIS PROCESS AT DOE
CSTC Project Team 2004-C
J. C. Laul, Chairman
March 2005
LA-UR-

Project Team 2004-C
Chemical Safety Topical Committee (CSTC): Joint Committee of the Department of Energy (DOE) and the Energy Facility Contractor Group (EFCOG)
PS-4, Los Alamos National Laboratory MS K489, P. O. Box 1663 Los Alamos, NM 87545

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
The CSTC 2004-C project acknowledges the significant contributions of the following personnel.
• All participants that volunteered for this report are listed below and also in Table AK-1.
• Bill McArthur, Gail Kleiner (Ret.), Dan Marsick, and Ron Eimer from DOE Headquarters/EH-52 for their support for this project.
• Barbara Stirrup (Tech Editor), Outrider Environmental
J. C. Laul, Chair
LANL
Dan Marsick
DOE-HQ/EH
Fred Simmons
WSRC
Jim Goss
NNSA-Y12
Lydia Boada-Clista
DOE-OH
Rob Vrooman
NNSA/SSO
Rodger Dickey
Energx/Sandia
Shawn Spivey
Pantex
Tim Stirrup
Outrider Environmental/Sandia
Wayne Davis
WSMS


The team members actively participated in the development of this report and they are from the DOE-HQ/NNSA and their field/site offices, and various DOE/NNSA contractors and their consultants. The contributions from each of the participants for different sections are gratefully acknowledged and are listed in Table AK-1. Each contributor provided strength to the report reflective of their individual expertise.

Section
Title
Name
Executive Summary
J. C. Laul, Lydia Boada-Clista
1
Introduction
All
2
Applicability
All
3
Relevant Guidance, Regulations and DOE Order
Tim Stirrup, Rob Vrooman,
Lydia Boada-Clista
4
A Possible Non-nuclear SB Process
J.C. Laul


5.Facility Work Description
Rodger Dickey


6
Hazard Identification
Fred Simmons
7
Facility Hazard Classification (CHC)
Dan Marsick, J.C. Laul
8
Hazard Analysis
Rob Vrooman, Rodger Dickey
9
Consequence/Source Term Analysis
Tim Stirrup, J.C. Laul
10
Identification of Controls
Jim Goss



11. Commitment to Safety Management Program
Rodger Dickey


The United States (US) Department of Energy (DOE) has a policy of Integrated Safety Management System (ISMS) that requires a hazard analysis and implementation of controls to protect the workers and public in an authorized hazard facility. The ISMS applies to all DOE facilities through DOE P 450.4, Safety Management System Policy, and DOE Acquisition Regulation (DEAR) clause 48 CFR 970.5223-1, Integration of environment, safety, and health into work planning and execution.


To read more of this report go here: www.hss.doe.gov...


Regardless of the circumstances under which he died, my sincere condolences to his family and friends.




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posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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Sincere condolences to the family of this brave man. There are among you all, people who understand what you have lived through and you are not alone in your grief.

God's speed and keep you always in safekeeping. Your loved one died so this would be so.



posted on Mar, 27 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by ATempestTX
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
 


Possibly (as he knew more than we do)...he knows what is coming...


Possibly small scale nuclear war according to the local neighborhood grayliens. The future remains entangled with our future decisions. The future is uncertain as yoda would say.

But anyways lol, great thread OP. I have to agree that it does sound suspicious.


PS- my theory on his death is he realized after Japan how unstable Nuclear Power is and how stupid humans are for playing with it. I mean darnit I've been living here for 30 years next to that Nuke Plant and it didnt cause no problems..... until it EXPLODED. Funny how that works huh.
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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I seriously can't read through 9 pages of this to find out, and maybe someone else who has followed the thread can help me.

But is there any other relevant information about this?

I see a dead nuclear scientiest, apparently a suicide. Is there any information about him anywhere? I mean, does he have a history of mental problems, any recent problems in his life etc...

Because he is a nuclear scientist, and there is a nuclear accident halfway around the globe I see no reason to immediately start making connections, and I personally wouldn't even have it cross my mind. How many nuclear scientists are there in the world?

I have to think there would be atleast a hundred thousand or so. Thats a ton of collective guilt if there is some sort of danger they are all withholding. If 2000 nuclear scientists decided to randomly come forward and were all killed in some way beforehand, how could you possibly explain the deaths of 2000 people in a related field, in a surely short amount of time if it were a whistleblower event. Even if it was spread out around the globe.

One guy out of all the possible nuclear scientists, the whole idea doesn't seem feasible to me.

Its more than likely he had some sort of emotional problem, they affect people of all backgrounds, races, and levels of intelligence and decided to end his life.

Unless of course there are details I am unaware of that would otherwise lead me to think his death is suspicious.
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 09:06 AM
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This is one of the more important posts on the thread-


Originally posted by keepinmysoul
reply to post by Signals
 


Dickey, according to his Linkedin web profile, had worked on nuclear plants in Taiwan whose reactors were built by General Electric, the same company that built the 40 year-old Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant that has been spewing radiation since the Japanese earthquake. The Taiwan plants are of the same boiling water reactor design, according to the nuctrans.org web site.

GE REACTORS!!! BOILER TYPE!!! UHOH SHIIIIIIII.....



So....he's worked on the exact type of reactors in question...



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by iLoGiCViZiOnS
reply to post by Signals
 


I think that these guys are just like us in a lot of aspects of family life and they think they are doing a good service to the world with their jobs, and then one day something like what's been unfolding in Japan takes place and these guys are forced to really think about how their jobs effect everyone elses quality of life and perhaps a little bit of a guilty conscience sets in and they decide to commit suicide like in this case.


From the work Dickey was involved with, he KNEW the consequences to humanity from his activities many years ago. Most likely he was comfortable with that and the lucrative income. I highly suspect he was NOT going to tell anyone anything. More likely the powers that be feared he would tell and eliminated him...just in case. They knew he would probably be interviewed by the media and they didn't want to risk anything. Business as usual. In the meantime, I think we're all screwed.

Radiation is currently traveling around the world. It will continue to do so for years to come. Chernobyl is still killing people. Oil drilling, nuclear plants, fracking, coal mining are all dangerous, greedy methods to earn money for the elites, yet destroy the planet. There are safe alternatives discovered many years ago - back in the 1920s - that would solve our energy needs. These people monopolized the industry with these dangerous methods, got rich, we paid for it and look whose lives are threatened. You can still do something about it. Stop consuming their products, tell everyone you know what to do and take to the streets. usuncut.org...

Excellent find, great comments and I've learned much from the comments here to reach a logical conclusion.

To follow how HAARP may be involved and all the earthquakes worldwide
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUG7N8wcHts&tracker=False
www.youtube.com.../u/2/bRCM8oJ2DlY



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 09:58 AM
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I'm sure there are loads of people who have worked at that facility, that doesn't answer my question.

Is there any relevant background information that would otherwise make his death suspicious. The fact that he committed suicide, and worked at the plant doesn't draw red flags for me.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by ThaLoccster
I seriously can't read through 9 pages of this to find out, and maybe someone else who has followed the thread can help me.


Your questions are answered within the 9 pages. If you don't have the time to read through this, maybe you shouldn't concern yourself with this thread.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by fletcher

Originally posted by ThaLoccster
I seriously can't read through 9 pages of this to find out, and maybe someone else who has followed the thread can help me.


Your questions are answered within the 9 pages. If you don't have the time to read through this, maybe you shouldn't concern yourself with this thread.


I'm sorry, but after 2 pages of almost every post saying "omg he couldn't handle the guilt" without even any background information on the topic I couldn't stomach anymore of it.

I'm sorry I came late to a long thread and don't have the time to read through every page, I don't feel I "shouldn't concern myself with this thread" because of that.

Kind of a silly logic, like you're gonna take your ball and go home now.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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-Chaos Theory-

Either the United States Navy or the Department of Energy had a catastrophic event at one of their reactors.....

Option A:

Set off a nuclear device in the sea to send a tsunami towards Japan's nuclear reactors so the resulting radiation will hide radiation being leaked within the 48 States prior to Japans Tsunami.....


Could Humanity even think in such a way? You betcha. $$$$$ makes the world go round....people are expendable....the truth is what they make up for you to hear......



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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by TheMur
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Hear is alittle info on what i had posted, I know it says explosions and detonations but it states is has particle sensors. SO in turn it can read isotope levels....we knew!


Thanks for this info. Relevant. Weather manipulation, HAARP, VLFs, ELFs, mysterious deaths of fish, birds, animals in certain HAARP locations (mentioned early in this thread). If Dickey knew too much, there may be other "suicides" coming down the pike. We should watch this. I posted HAARP and earthquake links on page 9 of this thread. No doubt in my mind the Japan disaster is far worse than we can ever imagine.

If it was a suicide, maybe Dickey could not face what radiation would do to himself. It could very well be that bad. Somehow, I seriously doubt this was a suicide. He knew too much.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by fletcher

Originally posted by ThaLoccster
I seriously can't read through 9 pages of this to find out, and maybe someone else who has followed the thread can help me.


Your questions are answered within the 9 pages. If you don't have the time to read through this, maybe you shouldn't concern yourself with this thread.


So I bite, and read through 7 pages that I haven't read and guess what, no relevant information. I guess maybe you should read this thread again.

The closest I got to what I was looking for was this post....


Originally posted by keepinmysoul
reply to post by Signals
 


TAOS — A nuclear science engineer, who jumped to his death Friday off the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge, gave no signs of his intentions, said the owner of the Albuquerque company where he worked.
The victim is identified as Rodger Dickey, 56, from Richland, Wash., said Taos County Undersheriff Edwardo Romero.
"We don't know why" he did it, said Romero. Some writings were found "pointing to 'I am going to do this ... but I don't know when or where,'" said Romero.
Dickey's body was discovered in the early morning hours on the east bank of the river at the bottom of the gorge. The rental car he apparently was driving was parked in the middle of the bridge.
Viola Otero-Bennett, owner of ENREGS Inc. of Albuquerque, said Dickey had been employed there for about three months, working on safety analysis under a contract with Sandia National Laboratories.
"He told us he was going to be at work the next morning (Friday)," but he never showed up, she said.
"It was a complete shock," said Otero-Bennett of his death.
Dickey, according to his Linkedin web profile, had worked on nuclear plants in Taiwan whose reactors were built by General Electric, the same company that built the 40 year-old Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant that has been spewing radiation since the Japanese earthquake. The Taiwan plants are of the same boiling water reactor design, according to the nuctrans.org web site.
Asked if the Japanese situation had caused Dickey any concerns, Otero-Bennett replied, "Not that I am aware of."
She said Dickey was an amateur photographer. He was married with no children and his wife had remained in Washington.
Dickey's Linkedin web page profile lists him as a senior nuclear engineer with ENREGS.
GE REACTORS!!! BOILER TYPE!!! UHOH SHIIIIIIII.....


Read more: ABQJOURNAL NORTH: Gorge Bridge Suicide Victim Identified Nuclear Engineer Jumped Last Week www.abqjournal.com...
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That for me, leads me more towards suicide than "murdered by tptb".

It seems to me that people on this thread have little understanding of the human mind or suicide and only thing about what they would do and that is only the plausible scenario. "Well I would leave a note, he didn't so thats fishy" "If I were depressed and in his field I would not off myself until the current situation had passed".

From what I know about suicides, the larger majority does not leave a note, and often leaves people scrambling to understand their motives.

Based on everything known in this case, I have no reason to doubt suicide.

The amount of people on here saying someone else did it and he knew too much and whatever else without even asking for more information before drawing a conclusion is troubling.



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 10:58 AM
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He did leave a note, but of course we'll never see it...

Perhaps you are correct, but it has been duly noted his affliliation with the exact type of reactors that are currently failing....Seems he is quite the prominent expert on them in fact...

That's what makes it suspicious, the connection with the largest nuclear accident in the history of Earth!



posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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That doesn't make suspicion for me.

A girl I once dated committed suicide, shortlly after I started a new relationship.

Based on that statement, did she kill herself because she found the fact that I found a new love unbearable?

Or is it possible she had emotional issues, and the timing of her suicide had nothing to do with me finding another girlfriend?

correlation doesn't imply causation

That seems to be an idea you should familiarize yourself with.

My favorite example...


With a decrease in the number of pirates, there has been an increase in global warming over the same period.
Therefore, global warming is caused by a lack of pirates.


That is exactly the types of jump in logic that goes on here, and in particular this thread.
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posted on Mar, 28 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Valid points, all of them.

This wasn't some random girlfriend, it's a Nuclear Scientist with experience working with GE reactors exactly like the ones at Fukishima.

You can't throw a "suicide candidate" with those credentials into your same pool as everyone else.

I will agree that most suicides are legit, but I'd say under the circumstances it's okay to view this particular one with scrutiny.

Do you think it's just a coincidence?



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