U.S. Nuclear Scientist Found Dead, Knew Too Much ?

Wow. No evidence whatsover that he was murdered but it's conspiracy nonetheless ? I bet you can pick any month of any year in the last 50 and drum up some explanation as to why a nuclear scientist would be bumped off. Here's something more mundane : his personnel life was crap or he had only a few months to live with a slow agonising death. So he committed suicide.

Evidence either way, exactly the same. Likelihood either way far more in towards suicide........it's called everyday life.

Okay, okay. Hand in the air here. Yeah, I'm new to ATS, and very much appreciate the offering of theories, etc. But I'm not new to the planet, or to reading both mainstream and alternative/speculative op-ed and news. I've been reading lots of posts in lots of the ATS forums, as well, and in this particular thread I recalled several others that I think no one else has referred to.

Maybe we should connect the dots.
To wit:
The HAARP network and the global ionospheric manipulation, (esp. the video showing radar of the storm being held in place by one of the things in California)
The strange rumblings all over the place,
The fact that prominent, knowledgable insiders *do* frequently die -- or disappear -- when certain trigger events occur
The now-common knowledge that massive cover-ups are the norm, the world over
The common knowledge that the global rich own the MSM and freely censor and/or manipulate it
The fact that the WWII nuclear guys were removed to the USA and became part of the M-I complex

I think if we consider all of these things, and accept as Very Likely the deceased had top-secret knowledge, either legitimately or accidentally revealed to him, we can do more than just wonder if he was depressed or murdered.
I spent ten years as a psycho-analyst, and have dealt with dozens of miserable people from different walks of life (excluding the members of TPTB, of course, they would never go to a 501c3 for therapy...oh no....but that's another story)

Perhaps this man had made a deal, a contract, with the powers - maybe he was forced or tricked - into helping develop a network of tools that he did not know were being designed specifically to enable the NWO to terrorize the population, and to systematically annihilate "half of the world's population". (The video of the Japanese lady who says she was taken to an underground chamber and saw a written plan, Illuminati-authored, clearly defining what diseases were invented by whom and where they were deployed, how many people the shadow govt is planning to destroy - the goal is one half, acc. to her - etc.)

The picture is MUCH bigger than this one frame, and if we the thinking contributors of ATS are figuring things out, don't you think TPTB know it??
Does anyone else suspect this very site is under surveillance?
My spouse is a former Military Police Officer who worked the borders and counter-drug-ops with the National Guard, and while certainly damaged and paranoid compared to non-military trainees, he knows lots of things the gen pop does not.

What if they're watching us?? If they're not, why not?
IMO, because the wheels of the NWO are so definitely in place that the Bilderbergers, the Fed, the NWO shadow govt and their military/technological ammo are so far beyond anything most of us imagine that it doesn't matter if a few ants are barking at the rubber tree plant. Most of TPTB are the children or students of those who orchestrated and indoctrinated the whole plan, decades ago...

I think if I were the scientist now departed, I would have racing thoughts and absolute dread of what I knew was possible (if not outright planned), and maybe he didn't want to watch the earth destroyed by these monsters, so he left early.

We don't know.
We just don't know how much we don't know. They, however, DO know how much we don't know.

BUT - that's no reason for us not to talk about it.
Deep breaths, everyone, deep breaths.

Maybe you and the others here on this board shouldn't "connect the dots" with the avarage knowledge of things, maybe we all should go back to life and let it all be.

reply to post by notimportant


Why on earth should we just let it all be? not-important, go ahead and let it all be. Personally, I have children, and subscribe to the idea that "our lives begin to end the day that we remain silent about things that matter."
Which is my prerogative.

Why are you on this board/this thread if you think it's such bull? Thanks for playing, but no one here forced you to join, so run along if you're not enjoying it. If mockery and degradation is your thing, there are better sites for you to attack... so I ask in all sincerity, why are you here? What is it you'd like to offer?
Cheers!

So he was a nuke scientist and we ask...Knew Too Much?

What about Vince Foster, did he know too much? Really wierd circumstances surronded Mr Foster's death in the Clinton administration. Where is the investigation of his death at today? Does anyone even remember Vince Foster?

In one week no one will remember the nuke scientist's death. It will pass in the dust of other questions that have arrised since and will never be followed up on. Americans have no ability to focus long enough to accomplish anything. Question away on the nuke scientist's death today. Tomorrow no one will remember him.

I'm from Nashville, TN & I can remember that after the nationwide anthrax scare, a scientist had been found dead in his car, parked by a bridge. I think there's a connection but what are you going to do? What can any of us do but maybe start a real Civilian Intelligence group that's not corrupt like the CIA.

reply to post by romanmel

Vince Foster was left handed and yet he shot himself in the right temple....Why go thru those contortions if you are "suicidal?" And then there was that white van with AR plates seen leaving the scene,,,,,probably a "coincidence."

Every bum can die in a (where was is?) Rio Grande Gorge. Why not a nuke scientist? Van Gogh got shot on the streets of Amsterdam by a muslim extremist, centuries after his death! Imgaine that!

reply to post by v1rtu0s0

Sounds like he may have had the intent to out the nuclear industry for its dangerous practices.

How about DENYING IGNORANCE.

YOU are a SLAVE to the BANKSTERS and they want to keep it that way. Access to cheap CLEAN THORIUM nuclear power is NOT on the Banksters agenda for us so they must whip up fear of nuclear power again even though the reactor in Japan is URANIUM and not THORIUM See: Journal of Energy Security


The Bankster/Oilmen are doing a right good job of stampeding the sheeple.

Turn over any rock and you find a Bankster/oilman under it. The plan is to cripple and demolish the USA and to do that you starve the country of energy and resources.

China is building a Coal plant a WEEK and mining gold and other metals at a great rate. While our country goes down the tubes because we were SOLD OUT! Heck we are not even ALLOWED to mine our own resources any more!!!

I detail the selling out to the banksters HERE:
TRAITORS IN THE WHITE HOUSE:
SpartanKingLeonidas started with this traitor: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I added these:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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WHO do you think OWNS the Media???

the takeover of the media
U.S. Congressional Record February 9, 1917: J.P. Morgan interests bought 25 of America's leading newspapers, and inserted their own editors, in order to control the media. www.mindfully.org...

JP Morgan: Our next big media player? (April 13, 2010) JP Morgan controls 54 U.S. daily newspapers,and owns 31 television stations. www.newsandtech.com...

WHO OWNS the medical industry???

Who tell us all the health hazards of radiation.

In the early half of the 20th century, petrochemical giants organized a coup on the medical research facilities, hospitals and universities. The Rockefeller family sponsored research and donated sums to universities and medical schools which had drug based research. They further extended this policy to foreign universities and medical schools where research was drug based through their "International Education Board".

Establishments and research which were were not drug based were refused funding and soon dissolved in favor of the lucrative pharmaceutical industry. In 1939 a "Drug Trust" alliance was formed by the Rockefeller empire and the German chemical company IG Farben (Bayer). After World War Two, IG Farben was dismantled but later emerged as separate corporations within the alliance. Well known companies included General Mills, Kellogg, Nestle, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Procter and Gamble, Roche and Hoechst (Sanofi-Aventis).

The Rockefeller empire, in tandem with Chase Manhattan Bank (now JP Morgan Chase), owns over half of the pharmaceutical interests in the United States. It is the largest drug manufacturing combine in the world. Since WWII, the pharmaceutical industry has steadily netted increasing profits to become the world's second largest manufacturing industry; [3], [4] after the arms industry.

The Rockefeller Foundation was originally set up in 1904 as the General Education Fund. The RF was later formed in 1910 and issued a charter in 1913 with the help of Rockefeller millions. Subsequently, the foundation placed it's own "nominees" in federal health agencies and set the stage for the "reeducation" of the public. A compilation of magazine advertising reveals that as far back as 1948, larger American drug companies spent a total sum of $1,104,224,374 for advertising. Of this sum, Rockefeller-Morgan interests (which went entirely to Rockefeller after Morgan's death) controlled about 80%.... www.sourcewatch.org...

WHO profits from carbon "trading???

The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank

WHO came up with AGENDA 21

Climategate e-mail on Global Governance & Sustainable Development (B1)

Here is who Ged Davis is (Shell Oil executive with IPCC connection)

THEIR PLANS for us are quite clear if you pay attention

In 1969, Rockefeller Official Said US Would Be De-industrialized

On March 20, 1969, Dr. Richard Day, the National Medical Director of the Rockefeller-sponsored "Planned Parenthood" told a meeting that American industry will be sabotaged and shown to be unreliable and uncompetitive...

"The stated plan was that different parts of the world would be assigned different roles of industry and commerce in a unified global system. The continued preeminence of the United States and the relative independence and self-sufficiency of the United States would have to be changed... in order to create a new structure, you first have to tear down the old, and American industry was one example of that."

"Each part of the world will have a specialty and thus become inter-dependent, he said. The US will remain a center for agriculture, high tech, communications, and education but heavy industry would be "transported out."

www.savethemales.ca...

Obama's Chief Science Adviser is John Holden.'In their 1973 book “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions,” Holdren and co-authors Paul and Anne Ehrlich wrote:

“A massive campaign [read global warming] must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States. De-devolopment means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation. Resources and energy must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries."

In Maurice Strong's 1972 First Earth Summit speech, Strong warned urgently about Global Warming and Pollution

The Club of Rome -
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself." -

The de-development plan is UN Division for Sustainable Development - full text of Agenda 21


Over 40% of the US land mass is farmland and the BANKSTERS have other plans for it. Al Gore even stated: "our production agriculture is being shifted out of the U.S. to the Third World."

If you want to know what the plans for all that land is you might also like to look into the UN Bio-Diversity Treaty ratified by Clinton. Also look at a Wildlands bills that almost made it through Congress during Clinton's Admin. It wipes out land ownership in the USA and moves the population to a tiny portion of the land - the Green areas on the MAP.

Congressional Record S13790, Friday, September 30, 1994. OPPOSING CONSIDERATION OF THE CONVENTION ON BIO-DIVERSITY


Note the USA has gone from 24% of the labor force engaged in manufacturing to less than 9% and now the top employers are the US Federal Government (17%) Kelly office temps, Wallmart and McDonalds. jobs.lovetoknow.com...

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by notimportant

 

Why on earth should we just let it all be? not-important, go ahead and let it all be. Personally, I have children, and subscribe to the idea that "our lives begin to end the day that we remain silent about things that matter."
Which is my prerogative.

Why are you on this board/this thread if you think it's such bull? Thanks for playing, but no one here forced you to join, so run along if you're not enjoying it. If mockery and degradation is your thing, there are better sites for you to attack... so I ask in all sincerity, why are you here? What is it you'd like to offer?
Cheers!

I do not consider everything on this forum bull, but sometimes it goes to far. You don't know anything about the death of that scientist, you don;t know what he knows, and you also dont know if he is really murdered by a third party who just simply wants to shut his mouth.

You cannot say that he did it because he is a scientist and that he knows to much, simplky because you don't know that !

You can just never tell what ghost are haunting a person. He might have had a great career, and a fantastic life, and still killed himself. People do it every day. From the poor, to the rich and famous. He could have had mental problems, or for whatever reason was in a deep depression. You just can just a book by its cover when it comes to depression and suicidal thoughts. I'm not saying foul play could not have been the case, but I am saying its just as likely it had nothing to do with it, and he had just gave up for reasons we may never know. Ive had one family member and also a close friend commit suicide. In both cases everyone , including their own spouses , were surprised when it happened.

reply to post by CordDragonzord


Did you see his work load or his task list? I would of offed myself too.

The line the precedes the third if there was one.

Originally posted by Nebulous1973
reply to post by unityemissions

 

What are you talking about? You don't know the chap but you sure don't have a problem giving his suicide a complete analysis as if hes been to your office for a psychological examination..This comment right here is the epitome of what is wrong with most people on the internet..you all think you have a clue about everything. You mindlessly give out opinions and conclusions on things you couldn't possibly have a clue about unless you were there or part of the situation.None of us can say what happened you just don't know.."Oh he probably just couldn't handle the guilt and he" oh shut up..you have no clue and without one you should keep your mouth shut. You people are sometimes so pathetic in your comments that I undersatand why TPTB wish to rid the planet of you all..most of you are idiots.

As harsh as you seem to come across, I fully agree with you. If I could give you more stars I would.

-rrr

Originally posted by unityemissions
Well I don't know the chap, but think maybe he offer himself because he was experiencing overwhelming guilt. I can see situations in which he was forced to choose between cuttingcornersfor corporate benefit, else lose his job. He justcouldnt live with hisself any longer.

You far underestimate the human ability to be selfish. Who ever kills themselves over guilt? Japanese dudes on movies, if any! It is one of the least common reasons for suicide that I can imagine. Though it sure sounds romantic and fits with an agenda of "Nuclear energy is dangerous"

-rrr

Nuclear scientist have feelings too you know. Maybe he was just a manically depressed person.

You know everyday stuff like, maybe he caught his wife cheating, or something?

We can only speculate.

Reading the story I googled and the first hit is an obituary, don't know if I overlooked it and it was already posted. Seems like a great guy with a lot to live for, may he rest in peace. I guess he had feelings of guilt for being part of something which appeared good but turned out to cost many lives maybe he knew those catastrophes could have been avoided and couldn't live with it. But my guess is good as any, only those who knew him would have something to say about it.

reply to post by rickyrrr


Kid, you're way out of your league here.

Intelligent people with an intact conscience may kill their selves over guilt.

I had a friend in high school who did just that.

reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread680482/pg1#pid10911761]post by littlezeta[/ur


nothing we can do ???????????????
thats a cowards view--I think, we nrmal people should make it illegal to open another nuke plant-close the ones we have-as soon as we have 1 more nuke plant go haywire in this country -WE WILL CLOSE THEM ALL-fight or die