U.S. Nuclear Scientist Found Dead, Knew Too Much ?

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0
Sounds like he may have had the intent to out the nuclear industry for its dangerous practices.

Either that or he just finished a project for somebody that he knows is going to kill a bunch of innocent people.

Thing is, at this point, any time you have a NUCLEAR scientist, physicist, chemist, or a nuclear anything end up dead you need to first treat it like murder even if you find a note.

Finding out the motive of a crime or suicide is just as important as finding the criminal.

reply to post by Signals


While I believe in the overall possibility, the likelihood of this particular cause being more than a coincidence isn't plausible to me, atleast based on the evidence at hand.

I have no reason to assume this guy either knew something that he was about to come forward with and was murdered, or that he knew something about the current situation and was overwhelmed by guilt so he killed took his life.

I've dealt with suicides, and I've learned a lot over the years about them. I'm by no means claiming to be an expert, but I do understand the seemingly randomness of them. I've known so many bright, talented people with so much to live for who took their lives over things most people would deem inconsequential, but for them it was obviously the end of the world.

Like I said, in the grand scheme of the universe the overall possibility that whats mentioned here could be true exists, but based on the information that is available I have no reason to believe its a plausible or probable idea. The mere fact that he has relevant experience in the ongoing nuclear crisis does in no way feel fishy.

There are surely more people in the world who have experience with those types of reactors, and even at the same plant. If a pattern of coverup, or death was established then I would consider it, and do the necessary research.

Overall, this whole idea is grasping for straws and connecting dots that do not exist.

reply to post by Signals


Okay....so whether this guy killed himself or was killed...there is one conclusion i think we can all agree on...He had a secret. Step two is what is the secret??? Is the secret about the Japan disaster? Could it be that he was going to blow the horn on our nuclear safety practices? Or something else because this company works on a lot of potentially harmful things.....Upon some research, this is what I found which may need a thread of it's own...

this is something that his company does in NM...

en.wikipedia.org...

this is an article about how his company is the nuclear safety gurus....4 days before the EQ in Japan...ironic huh?

www.rdmag.com...

this one is something else his company is involved with which is a bit scarier than nuclear radiation...

www.azonano.com...

and finally in the news today....they successfully have an anti-matter particle...

www.cbsnews.com...

Does it bother anyone else that we are screwing with something that could potentially make us "not be".?

Just started this thread. Radioactive Iodine found in Glasgow, Scotland from the Japan Nuclear Plant:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe the truth is not being fully released and he knew how bad this accident really was from his expert experience?

reply to post by Signals


Sounds more like he was pushed off the cliff. This is what really happend. These type of people just don't go out one day and kill themselves.


Usually someone working on classified stuff like this it usually results in an investigation at much higher levels as this could have been alqeda or an iranian tit for tat for the iran nuke scients that got whacked not to long ago. by mossad or us.

reply to post by Rocky Black


Another comment from someone who doesn't understand the human mind.

Rich people also don't commit suicide, or smart people, or attractive people or famous people. Only ugly people with no money, no education, and no job kill themselves. So obviously, this guy didn't either.

reply to post by ThaLoccster


Thats not what I'm saying. What I'm saying usually someone working on stuff like that is usally of sound mind and charecter. If they were not they would not be working on that stuff. Do you know what this guy was working on.

I can tell you statistically. Jumping off the cliff is not a way most commit suicide.

young kids do that stuff when they are high and wasted by mistake or when they are broken hearted. Get drunk and do stupid things like that.

This guy drove himself out in the desert and jumped off a cliff.


Do you get it.

If he wanted to off himself he could have sat in his car. Shot himself. pooped some pills and the suck. to many to list.


This is beyond suspect and will be investigate.

By people way above my clearance level....

reply to post by ThaLoccster


Most conspiracies involve a certain amount of specualtion. It IS safe to say this case is highly unusual. This is not your regular, run-of-the-mill "suicide", that's all I'm saying...

I made it clear in the OP that I am no psych expert, if you are, please provide info to support that. Otherwise, admit it's a fair speculation or move on...

"Nothing to see here, move along" isn't good enough for this one

Just a general note to those reading this thread: Remember that disinfo agents don't generally go out and say there's no evidence or it's not true. Rather, they skip right over that to ridiculing the very idea of even thinking about the question. They don't even try to address it; they just proclaim that no one should ask it, and that anyone who does is stupid, crazy, or otherwise someone to be shunned by others.

Originally posted by timewalker
Nuclear scientist have feelings too you know. Maybe he was just a manically depressed person.

You know everyday stuff like, maybe he caught his wife cheating, or something?

We can only speculate.

Seems as though being a scientist or biologist makes one prone to suicide... there have been a lot of them dying.

www.truthistreason.net...

and here - for a list :

www.truthistreason.net...

And if you read here - by the stats for scientists these days - Dr. Becker should take cover and stay away from high-rises.
www.truthistreason.net...

I think one of the most important things to concentrate on is context.

Think about this for a moment......

What would you have thought about this man's suicide had it been two months ago? Three months? A year?

If this man would have died earlier than the Japan disaster, would you still draw ties to nuclear secrets and a guilty concience for radiation leaks/exposure had it not been now?

I'm not saying definitively whether it was tied to Japan or not, or whether he was holding information regarding U.S. reactors and their safety; I am saying however that it is very interesting that with the current social context that we so easily draw lines to major issues by finding smaller incidences to fill a grand conspiracy.

There are conspiracies out there, there are people to cover them up for power, money and control, but there are also people out there who have genuine medical, social, and psychological problems that cannot deal with their life; so they decide that ending it is the best policy. While suicide is a moral debate and albeit a religious one, it is not that uncommon to find that people don't understand you, especially when you are much smarter than the majority of the population.

I will suspend my belief in conspiracy over this man's death, but fighting amongst ourselves instead of looking at what we can prove is not helping him or his grieving family.

Given the context, we just don't know.

King

reply to post by Kingalbrect79


I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Surely if it happened in a different context, it would be less suspicious, but why would that suggest it's not suspicious in this one? Isn't that like saying 'Well if you saw me holding this knife in a context other than one which involves someone who got stabbed, you wouldn't think it was suspicious then!'

I understand that you're trying to present a mode of thought more than a concrete argument, and that my above example engages in a bit of hyperbole to emphasize the point. So I don't mean to jump all over you. I just sincerely don't see the logical steps you're making, but it's certainly possible that's because I'm missing them.

And I just have to add congratulations on your new baby.

reply to post by sepermeru


Yes, my intention was to provide an "out-of-the-box" perspective on this issue. My point in a nutshell is this:

Had this occured six months ago, would you have given it a second thought? What difference does it make if it were a popular lawyer, a biologist or a race car driver?

My point is that given the context of the "social disaster" of the week, this man's death just too conveniently fits the bill of a conspiracy jump. What if a BP lead researcher died one week after the oil line first ruptured by apparent suicide? Would you think he had inside information and couldn't live with himself either?

I'm just saying that it's too easy to connect the dots after the fact. You have to look at the verifiable facts leading up to his death that may/may not lead to conspiracy and leave out the connection to Japan's disaster until evidence makes the connection plausable.

By making the automatic assumption that this man had anything to do, or knowledge of anything going on in Japan or the U.S., AND he had a personal part in keeping any data a secret, you are allowing outside data to corrupt your investigation of his "suicide."

Just my opinion, but you have to investigate and use the scientific method on the individual before you can make the jump to worldwide conspiracy.

[And thanks for the compliment--although I could use more sleep.]

King

reply to post by Signals

he left wa to jump in NV?
it seems a little odd, primarily because he would be on vaction. a time to be happy and relaxed ad jumps...
I think most people committing suicide, think about family and how this would affect them.. the last thing I would expect is spending some money to throw him self off a bridge.. why not go sky diving a not open your chute

reply to post by Signals
Even though I feel this is a suspicious death, seeing he was involved with nuclear safety, I am putting forward my experiences as I volunteered with a suicide helpline and know that people contemplating it come from all social backgrounds, rich, poor, intelligent, famous and plain ordinary.
Though some people do just go for it without a thorough examination of the consequences, most people contemplate it for a while.
I spoke to many who I conversed with over many months who wanted to die. Everytime they were nearer to doing it, they would phone the helpline and those few hours talking to someone made the notion pass, till the next time.
Most do not do it though and the ones that do, you know for certain as they have spoke about it for months so they are well prepared.
I had many thank you calls from people wanting to end it and talking it out helped them to realise that it is really a momentary thought that does subside after you have the idea to kill yourself.
Famous people phone these phonelines as well as they might have everything but they don't have piece of mind, too much pressure, no privacy, bad news headlines and ordinary problems like us all such as relationships problems, drug and alcohol addiction, mental depression etc....
All I can say is on my personal experience with suicidal people, his thoughts were on this for a while and maybe the Japanese meltdown was the straw that broke the camel's back?

reply to post by Nebulous1973


Well If we didn't give our baseless shallow and idiotic opinions what exactly would we talk about? Don't jump dude it's not that bad.

reply to post by Signals

and now this it seems like bad timing
chicago.cbslocal.com...

ONE of a series of scientists,, Some gone but NEVER FORGOTTEN,,, Lachlan Cranswick is one such person......

The-curious-disappearance-of-Lachlan-Cranswi ck

What was Lachlan working on ???

Interesting reading of so many scientists killed.... the list
is linked here....

DEAD SCIENTISTS LINK

Coincidience???
Natural?

Found this strange post on a F2 anon board tonight while doing a general Google search under Dickey's name; Is this a sick comment or someone who knows something? Note: the data was visible in the Google cache only.
When you click on the Google link, you see a 404 message only.
www.google.com...=rodger+dickey+of+new+mexico&hl=en&prmd=ivnso&ei=vhCUTdPNAYmH0QGtqbiCDA&start=20&sa=N&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9806ae24d4306e 76
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Unregistered Posted 3/26/2011 11:11 pm
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www.taosnews.com...

"Body in Río Grande Gorge identified as scientist

Taos County Sheriff’s Office stated Tuesday (March 22) that they have identified the body found in the Río Grande Gorge last Friday (March 18) as belonging to a nuclear scientist from Washington state.

Undersheriff Ed Romero said that Rodger Lynn Dickey, 56, died after he jumped from the Gorge Bridge. Dickey, a scientist working on contract with Sandía Laboratory, was originally from Richland, Wash.

“He’d been working in New Mexico for a while,” Romero said. “He did leave a note, but it does not specifically give his intentions.”

Romero said that a vendor setting up at the bridge for the day called the police when Dickey’s rental car was found parked in the middle of the bridge in the westbound lane."



Yeah, he suicided by jumping off that bridge after he had removed one of his own fingers, fired two rounds into the back of his own head, broken several of his own bones, and intentionally ingested multiple rare drugs and chemicals. It's just so hard to get rid of inconvenient people these days.



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Yeah, he suicided by jumping off that bridge after he had removed one of his own fingers, fired two rounds into the back of his own head, broken several of his own bones, and intentionally ingested multiple rare drugs and chemicals. It's just so hard to get rid of inconvenient people these days.


Where did you get all that from?

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