8.9 Quake hits off coast of Japan! Live Updates.

reply to post by funkywarlord


say the worst happend with the reactor what if any danger would
that pose for the world, or just localized to japan ?

Originally posted by funkywarlord
i dont get it

one minute a report will be put out like `state of neuclear emergency` and the next minute we are told its okay

and now apparently a guy reported that people `in the know` are saying things need to be sorted fast or they could get very bad

somebody explain

Please see this link for an explanation:

www.world-nuclear-news.org...

The Japan Atomic Industry Forum (JAIF) issued a notice saying all reactors in the north-eastern part of Japan had shut down automatically. It noted that the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (Nisa) had said no damage to nuclear power plants had been reported as of 3.16pm. Japanese prime minister Naoto Kan made a statement on television in which he noted that there was no indication of any radioactive release.



Later, Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) reported that emergency diesel generators started as expected at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, but then stopped after one hour, leaving units 1, 2 and 3 with no power for important cooling functions. This led the company to notify the government of an 'emergency' situation, which allows local authorities to take additional precautionary measures. An evacuation has been ordered of over 1000 people living within three kilometres, while engineers worked to restore power.

Someone in this thread was posting out-dated news from before the diesel generators failed.

nothing about the nuclear plant heating up on BBC news
???
typical a bar on the bottom now states reactor one cooling failed!

Originally posted by GullibleUnderlord
reply to post by funkywarlord

 

say the worst happend with the reactor what if any danger would
that pose for the world, or just localized to japan ?

i dread to think, but what worries me is the fact that there have been several reports, including a brand new one, which would suggest that theres a big nuclear risk, and then almost imediatly its followed up by another report sayng `nah its okay weve got back up`

i am worried that they are hiding something

thank god im not in japan

reply to post by GezinhoKiko


Yeah, I'm hearing nothing about this.

I require a source

reply to post by infinite


just read a update bar on the bbc news channel stating reactor 1 cooling failed!

Just wow, I caught wind of this last night, I was about to goto bed after playing PS3, and turned on CNN, about I dunno 2am est. They were talking about a quake and a minor tsunami, so of course I was watching. I have been feeling strange for weeks now its like having a pressure headache, I had just been having that ah man something is not right feeling. Anyhow then they started showing the FIRST in real life Not hollywood made Tsunami waves, crashing into Japan, Just insane.. Anyhow I just wanted to put my two cents in, I think this event has allot of tangibles at the moment to bring absolutely no benefit to mankind, sadly the news is now talking about nuclear reactors failing in Japan, as well.


The political climate in the far east right now, is already tense with the Korea peninsula, and now one of the west's biggest allies are brought to their knee's. I just hope nothing stupid happens out there, while we are trying to pick the pieces up over there.

why so much confusion on this reactor ? is it heating up and is it a threat or not ?

my guess is that the reactor vessel is leaking..and the heavy water (deuterium) to moderate the fusion is low level combined with defect cooling system they face an big problem......

Originally posted by GullibleUnderlord
reply to post by funkywarlord

 

say the worst happened with the reactor what if any danger would
that pose for the world, or just localized to japan ?

Well, it wouldn't be like Chernobyl, but it wouldn't be good... it would be contained for a time, unless it exploded somehow and blew radiological material into the air... Depends on how enriched the rods are.... You would see the cloud travel around the world at that latitude if wind currents from a storm/low pressure/high pressure system moved it.... so many variables.... Worst case? a 100 square miles would be contaminated maybe.. dunno their core design....

Originally posted by GezinhoKiko
reply to post by infinite

 

just read a update bar on the bbc news channel stating reactor 1 cooling failed!

yeh and then a `corespondent` from scotland? says `its okay theres backup`

HUH.. can they explain for us non technically savvy people what is really going on

reply to post by Artorius


Thanks Artorius, Much love.

Lucky the Volcano's on another Island. So far I've heard "Tsunami warning for Indonesia" then it was Warning lifted for Indonesia now I'm seeing a warning again. I hope they can figure out which is right.

Prayers are with Japan and all other affected countries.

reply to post by GezinhoKiko


Yeah, I know. That does not mean it is rapidly over heating.

i dread to think, but what worries me is the fact that there have been several reports, including a brand new one, which would suggest that theres a big nuclear risk, and then almost imediatly its followed up by another report sayng `nah its okay weve got back up`

yeh and then a `corespondent` from scotland? says `its okay theres backup`

HUH.. can they explain for us non technically savvy people what is really going on

The problem isn't the news itself, it's that people are posting outdated news after someone else posts the newest news.

If you want the actual story and the full picture then read my previous posts in the thread. Or visit the World Nuclear Association Website or the TEPCO website.


www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

www.tepco.co.jp...

www.world-nuclear-news.org...

Please note that there are two nuclear plants that have been affected by the quake. Fukushima Daini and Fukushima Daiichi.

Fukushima Daini are using a cooling system called RCIC (Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System) for all 4 units. ECCS (Emergency Core Cooling System) was started (initially?) for unit 1 because of increase in containment pressure assumed to be from coolant leak.

Fukushima Daiichi lost off-site power from one of two sources and the emergency diesel generators (all of them) stopped working. Not sure what they’re doing now. I presume RCIC because that's battery powered or HPCI which is a different system that operates from the steam from the reactor itself.

Go here for an explanation of a BWRs cooling systems:

en.wikipedia.org...

Fukushima Daini is fine. If there was a coolant leak in unit 1 then you thank the western style containment vessel for keeping all radioactivity contained.

Fukushima Daiichi might have a problem if the batteries cannot last long enough, they cannot restore power from the diesels or the grid for long enough, or HPCI doesn't work. HPCI needs high pressure in the reactor, if they depressurized it to get other low pressure safety systems to work before the diesels stopped working, I don't know if they can use HPCI again.

Thanks.

Some good news from Hawaii.
www.reuters.com...

reply to post by Pharyax


so at worst 100 mile radius ?

reply to post by infinite


very true

and confusing!

Obama is speaking now

If you are told to evacuate, do as you are told.

Does Obama think they are 5 years old? I find that statement to be extremely condescending. What's more, why is he talking about gasoline now instead of the earthquake, and why is the speech about gasoline longer than the earthquake?

reply to post by SonicInfinity


it was a schuelded confrence on energy and he did touch on the quake first

and when he said do as your told , i thought the same

Yes , and he`s speaking right now....with the excuse of the earthquake to start talking about the petrol problems...
This is SOOO disgusting....

I went through this earthquake today....still in Tokyo, but I felt what it was to be in a tall building, nowhere to escape, things breaking, falling, walls cracking, .....hey - Obama!! Fine, talk about your petrol but in a diferent speech....I just cannot believe he uses the excuse of the earthquake to do so...

Absurd