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Jahve/Javhe
"Lucifer and Jahve are not the same.
"Jahve has no interest in our betterment.
"Lucifer is Prometheus, who gives the illumination to Man (manas = mind)."
War in Heaven
"The horns of every black magician are certainly the mark of the beast.
"These horns belong to the Guardian of the Threshold, who becomes the superior “I” of the black magician.
"Ariman, a great black hierarch, wears a red turban and is chief of enormous legions.
"Lucifer was the greatest black Initiate from the Lunar epoch; his legions are numerous.
"All of these millions of demons remained in the environment of our Earth.
"They dedicated themselves to placing all of the human souls on the way of the black path."
– Samael Aun Weor
Chakra Meditation and the Middle Pillar (Golden Dawn)
"777 is the official number of the Black Lodge, since 7 + 7 + 7 = 21: The Fool."
"Crowley converted himself into a fool through fornication and many other negative practices which he teaches in his books, which is why we at Glorian do not support or proliferate his teachings.
"This does not mean to burn his books. To truly burn a book means to consume it through the fire of comprehension, to know its inherent value: whether positive, in service of the divine, or negative, in service to the ego, as evidenced by Crowley's Thelemite maxim: "Do what thou wilt, that shalt be the whole of the law!"
"However, this does not mean we willingly consume garbage. To clarify Universal Gnosticism, the motto of the Gnostics who practice the three factors for positive spiritual revolution states:
"Do what thou wilt, but know that thou wilt have to answer to the Law (of Karma) for all thy deeds!"
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"Lucifer is Prometheus, who gives the illumination to Man (manas = mind)."
Originally posted by Tamahu
Here are some particularly lucid and pithy explanations of Lucifer:
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edit on 2-4-2011 by Tamahu because: edited links
THE ANTICHRIST (Extracts]
Friedrich Nietzsche (1895)
www.fns.org.uk...
So long as the priest, that professional denier, calumniator and poisoner of life, is accepted as a higher variety of man, there can be no answer to the question, What is truth? Truth has already been stood on its head when the obvious attorney of mere emptiness is mistaken for its representative.
Upon this theological instinct I make war: I find the tracks of it everywhere. Whoever has theological blood in his veins is shifty and dishonourable in all things. The pathetic thing that grows out of this condition is called faith: in other words, closing one's eyes upon one's self once for all, to avoid suffering the sight of incurable falsehood. People erect a concept of morality, of virtue, of holiness upon this false view of all things; they ground good conscience upon faulty vision; they argue that no other sort of vision has value any more, once they have made theirs sacrosanct with the names of "God," "salvation" and "eternity." I unearth this theological instinct in all directions: it is the most widespread and the most subterranean form of falsehood to be found on earth. Whatever a theologian regards as true must be false: there you have almost a criterion of truth. His profound instinct of self-preservation stands against truth ever coming into honour in any way, or even getting stated. Wherever the influence of theologians is felt there is a transvaluation of values, and the concepts "true" and "false" are forced to change places: what ever is most damaging to life is there called "true," and whatever exalts it, intensifies it, approves it, justifies it and makes it triumphant is there called "false."...
Let us not under-estimate this fact: that we ourselves, we free spirits, are already a "transvaluation of all values," a visualized declaration of war and victory against all the old concepts of "true" and "not true." The most valuable intuitions are the last to be attained; the most valuable of all are those which determine methods. All the methods, all the principles of the scientific spirit of today, were the targets for thousands of years of the most profound contempt; if a man inclined to them he was excluded from the society of "decent" people--he passed as "an enemy of God," as a scoffer at the truth, as one "possessed."....
The Christian concept of a god--the god as the patron of the sick, the god as a spinner of cobwebs, the god as a spirit--is one of the most corrupt concepts that has ever been set up in the world: it probably touches low-water mark in the ebbing evolution of the god-type. God degenerated into the contradiction of life. Instead of being its transfiguration and eternal Yea! In him war is declared on life, on nature, on the will to live! God becomes the formula for every slander upon the "here and now," and for every lie about the "beyond"! In him nothingness is deified, and the will to nothingness is made holy! . . .
The priest depreciates and desecrates nature: it is only at this price that he can exist at all.--Disobedience to God, which actually means to the priest, to "the law," now gets the name of "sin"; the means prescribed for "reconciliation with God" are, of course, precisely the means which bring one most effectively under the thumb of the priest; he alone can "save". Psychologically considered, "sins" are indispensable to every society organized on an ecclesiastical basis; they are the only reliable weapons of power; the priest lives upon sins; it is necessary to him that there be "sinning". . . . Prime axiom: "God forgiveth him that repenteth"--in plain English, him that submitteth to the priest.
..
Christianity also stands in opposition to all intellectual well-being,--sick reasoning is the only sort that it can use as Christian reasoning; it takes the side of everything that is idiotic; it pronounces a curse upon "intellect," upon the superbia of the healthy intellect...
"Faith" means the will to avoid knowing what is true. The pietist, the priest of either sex, is a fraud because he is sick: his instinct demands that the truth shall never be allowed its rights on any point. "Whatever makes for illness is good; whatever issues from abundance, from super-abundance, from power, is evil": so argues the believer. The impulse to lie--it is by this that I recognize every foreordained theologian.....
With this I come to a conclusion and pronounce my judgment. I condemn Christianity; I bring against the Christian church the most terrible of all the accusations that an accuser has ever had in his mouth. It is, to me, the greatest of all imaginable corruptions; it seeks to work the ultimate corruption, the worst possible corruption. The Christian church has left nothing untouched by its depravity; it has turned every value into worthlessness, and every truth into a lie, and every integrity into baseness of soul.....
To breed out of humanitas a self-contradiction, an art of self-pollution, a will to lie at any price, an aversion and contempt for all good and honest instincts! All this, to me, is the "humanitarianism" of Christianity!--Parasitism as the only practice of the church; with its anaemic and "holy" ideals, sucking all the blood, all the love, all the hope out of life; the beyond as the will to deny all reality; the cross as the distinguishing mark of the most subterranean conspiracy ever heard of,--against health, beauty, well-being, intellect, kindness of soul--against life itself. . . .
This eternal accusation against Christianity I shall write upon all walls, wherever walls are to be found--I have letters that even the blind will be able to see. . . . I call Christianity the one great curse, the one great intrinsic depravity, the one great instinct of revenge, for which no means are venomous enough, or secret, subterranean and small enough,--I call it the one immortal blemish upon the human race. . . .
Originally posted by Tamahu
Christus-Lucifer is the Ain Soph Aur from which the Triune Sephirothic Crown (the Logos) emerges, whereas Lucifer is the shadow of the Logos/the Christ.
Lucifer (the sexual impulse, of which is the "origin of Beasts, Men, and Gods") becomes Satan within any Human Elemental and/or any Bodhisattva of a God who allows themselves to fall.
Lucifer as Satan is the psychological trainer, adversary, and tempter of the fallen ones.
As an analogy imagine having a martial arts Sensei, during sparring who, even though he does not go easy on us by any means, deep down wants us to defeat him so that we can be worthy of becoming a Sensei ourselves.
So when we defeat Satan, Lucifer becomes once again the Brightest Angel in Heaven.
"777 is the official number of the Black Lodge, since 7 + 7 + 7 = 21: The Fool."
In achieving a value of 777 for the paths of the Flaming Sword, Crowley added the numerical values of the Hebrew letters -- he did not work with the actual numbers of the paths themselves. I hope this is clear.
So the actual equation Crowley worked with is as follows:
Path 11, letter Aleph, value 1
Path 14, letter Daleth, value 4
[no path], letter Gimel, value 3
Path 19, letter Teth, value 9
Path 22, letter Lamed, value 30
Path 24, letter Nun, value 50
Path 27, letter Peh, value 80
Path 30, letter Resh, value 200
Path 32, letter Tau, value 400
This is the Way of the Lightning down the Tree of Life, also known as the Flaming Sword. If you add the number values together, you get:
400+200+80+50+30+9+3+4+1 = 777
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“Morning Star, Son of the Dawn,” is a translation of Helel Ben-Shachar, which was translated into Latin as "lucifer qui mane oriebaris (see en.wikipedia.org... )," and the myth of Lucifer as a "fallen angels" seems to have developed out of this; thus the Babylonian King of Isaiah became the deity / god / angel Lucifer who became Satan, the embodiment of all evil to the men of God
Moreover, the word of the LORD came to me "Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord GOD:
You were the signet of perfection,[a]
(D) full of wisdom and(E) perfect in beauty.
13You were in(F) Eden, the garden of God;
(G) every precious stone was your covering,
(H) sardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,(I) emerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.[c]
On the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14You were an anointed(J) guardian cherub.
I placed you;[d] you were on(K) the holy mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15You were blameless in your ways
(L) from the day you were created,
till unrighteousness was found in you.
16In the abundance of(M) your trade
you were filled with violence in your midst, and you sinned;
so I cast you as a profane thing from(N) the mountain of God,
and I destroyed you,[e](O) O guardian cherub,
from the midst of the stones of fire.
17(P) Your heart was proud because of(Q) your beauty;
you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.
I cast you to the ground;
I exposed you before kings,
to feast their eyes on you.
18By the multitude of your iniquities,
in the unrighteousness of your trade
you profaned your sanctuaries;
so(R) I brought fire out from your midst;
it consumed you,
and I turned you to ashes on the earth
(S) in the sight of all who saw you.
19All who know you among the peoples
are appalled at you;
(T) you have come to a dreadful end
and shall be no more forever."
Originally posted by pepsi78
“Morning Star, Son of the Dawn,” is a translation of Helel Ben-Shachar, which was translated into Latin as "lucifer qui mane oriebaris (see en.wikipedia.org... )," and the myth of Lucifer as a "fallen angels" seems to have developed out of this; thus the Babylonian King of Isaiah became the deity / god / angel Lucifer who became Satan, the embodiment of all evil to the men of God
I'm sorry but Helel is the character that saw to overthrow the chief god, to climb the mountain top and to rebel and gain control by overthrowing the god at the top of the mountain. It's not only in hebrew but in other cultures as well.
In Canaantie or Phoenician mythology about Helel, who is the son of the god Shahar. Helel sought the throne of the chief god and was cast down into the abyss because of this, so you got the translation of the same character. It is the same fallen angel except his name is not helel anymore but
lucifer.
...it is more probable that this passage is an allusion to a Canaantie or Phoenician myth about how Helel, son of the god Shahar, sought the throne of the chief god and was cast down into the abyss because of this. Evidence for this theory comes from an Ugaritic poem about two divine children, Shachar (dawn) and Shalim (dusk), who were born as the result of the intercourse of the god El with mortal women. That would make El, Elyon, and Shahar members of the Canaanite pantheon and the "mount of meeting" is the abode of the gods, which corresponds to Mount Olympus in Greek mythology.
Unfortunately, this is just speculation as archaeologists have not uncovered any Canaanite sources that describe Helel ben Shahar or a revolt against Elyon.
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What does the passage in the bible read, it reads a similar story ?
Ohhh lucifer..morning star how have you fallen...and so on.
King of tire was controled by this entity, fallen angel, king of tire was the fallen angel/satan
It's very clear.
Moreover, the word of the LORD came to me "Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord GOD:
You were the signet of perfection,[a]
(D) full of wisdom and(E) perfect in beauty.
13You were in(F) Eden, the garden of God;
(G) every precious stone was your covering,
(H) sardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,(I) emerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.[c]
On the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14You were an anointed(J) guardian cherub.
I placed you;[d] you were on(K) the holy mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15You were blameless in your ways
(L) from the day you were created,
till unrighteousness was found in you.
16In the abundance of(M) your trade
you were filled with violence in your midst, and you sinned;
so I cast you as a profane thing from(N) the mountain of God,
and I destroyed you,[e](O) O guardian cherub,
from the midst of the stones of fire.
17(P) Your heart was proud because of(Q) your beauty;
you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.
I cast you to the ground;
I exposed you before kings,
to feast their eyes on you.
18By the multitude of your iniquities,
in the unrighteousness of your trade
you profaned your sanctuaries;
so(R) I brought fire out from your midst;
it consumed you,
and I turned you to ashes on the earth
(S) in the sight of all who saw you.
19All who know you among the peoples
are appalled at you;
(T) you have come to a dreadful end
and shall be no more forever."
You can see the same character is addressed, the king of tire, and then we find out who the king really is as you can see above, the fallen angel.
It's the same character, king of tire is helel and helel is translated to lucifer.
Helel is translated into "to shine" I think the translation stands correct, lucifer is satan as in the adversary of god as you can see the description of the king of tire, it fits the description correct. Same guy.
The Origins of Biblical Monotheism: Israel's Polytheistic Background and the Ugaritic Texts (Oxford/New York: Oxford University Press, 2001)
www.bibleinterp.com...
As a result of comparing biblical and inscriptional evidence with the Ugaritic texts, we can see how the worship of other deities lasted for quite a long time in Israel's pantheon.
By Mark S. Smith
Skirball Professor of Bible and Near Eastern Studies
New York University
For decades, scholars have tried to penetrate the Bible's story about Israelite monotheism. According to traditional interpretations of the Bible, monotheism was part of Israel's original covenant with Yahweh on Mount Sinai, and the idolatry subsequently criticized by the prophets was due to Israel's backsliding from its own heritage and history with Yahweh. However, scholars have long noted that beneath this presentation lies a number of questions. Why do the Ten Commandments command that there should be no other gods "before Me" (the Lord), if there are no other gods as claimed by other biblical texts? Why should the Israelites sing at the crossing of the Red Sea that "there is no god like You, O Lord?" (Exodus 15:11). Such passages suggest that Israelites knew about other gods and did not simply reject them. It seems that Israelites may have known of other deities and perhaps various passages suggest that behind the Bible's broader picture of monotheism was a spectrum of polytheisms that centered on the worship of Yahweh as the pantheon's greatest figure.
In the past, the question of Israelite polytheism has been approached by looking for evidence of specific deities worshipped by Israelites in addition to Yahweh. These would include biblical criticisms of the worship of other deities, such as the goddess Asherah in 2 Kings 21 and 23, as well as apparent references to this goddess or at least her symbol in the inscriptions from Kuntillet 'Ajrud and Khirbet el-Qom in the eighth century. In the Kuntillet 'Ajrud inscriptions, the symbol is treated respectfully as part of the worship of Yahweh. The gods Resheph and Deber appear in Habakkuk 3:5 as part of the military retinue of Yahweh. Other deities who gain some mention in the Bible include the "hosts of heaven" criticized in 2 Kings 21:5, but mentioned without such criticism in 1 Kings 22:19 and Zephaniah 1:5. Scholars have also noted that the god El is identified with Yahweh in the Bible, again with no criticism. The criticisms of Yahweh's archenemy, the storm god, Baal, also seem to reflect Israelite worship of this god. While many of these deities are not well known from the Bible, they are described sometimes at considerable length in the Ugaritic texts, discovered first in 1928 at the site of Ras Shamra (located on the coast of Syria about 100 miles north of Beirut). As a result of comparing biblical and inscriptional evidence with the Ugaritic texts, we can see how the worship of other deities lasted for quite a long time in Israel down to the Exile in ca. 586.
This approach to the study of specific deities in ancient Israel was summarized in Smith's earlier book, The Early History of God (which is due to be published in 2002 in a revised version by Eerdmans), and it reached its apex in the valuable collection, Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible (edited by Karel van der Toorn et al.; second edition; Leiden: Brill; Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1999). On the whole, Smith's book -- following a number of other scholars-- shows how Israelite polytheism was a feature of Israelite religion down through the end of the Iron Age and how monotheism emerged in the seventh and sixth centuries. It is in this period when the clearest monotheistic statements can be seen in the Bible, for example, in the apparently seventh-century works of Deuteronomy 4:35, 39, 1 Samuel 2:2 (earlier?), 2 Samuel 7:22, 2 Kings 19:15, 19 (= Isaiah 37:16, 20), and Jeremiah 16:19, 20 and the sixth-century portion of Isaiah 43:10-11, 44:6, 8, 45:5-7, 14, 18, 21, and 46:9. Because many of the passages involved appear in biblical works associated with either Deuteronomy, the Deuteronomistic History (Joshua through Kings) or in Jeremiah (with its similar language and ideas as these other works), most scholarly treatments until recently have suggested that a deuteronomistic movement of this period developed the idea of monotheism as a response to the religious issues of the time. The question has remained: why in the seventh and sixth centuries?
In his newest book, The Origins of Biblical Monotheism, Smith tries to address this question, but from a different angle in regards to monotheism and polytheism. Beginning with the Ugaritic texts, Smith asks what is monistic about polytheism and how the answer to this question might help make the emergence of Israelite monotheism more intelligible. Ugaritic polytheism is expressed as a monism through the concepts of the divine council or assembly and in the divine family. The two structures are essentially understood as a single entity with four levels: the chief god and his wife (El and Asherah); the seventy divine children (including Baal, Astarte, Anat, probably Resheph as well as the sun-goddess Shapshu and the moon-god Yerak) evidently characterized as the stars of El; the head helper of the divine household, Kothar wa-Hasis; and the servants of the divine household, who include what the Bible understands to be "angels" (in other words, messenger-gods).
This four-tiered model of the divine family and council apparently went through a number of changes in early Israel. In the earliest stage, it would appear that Yahweh was one of these seventy children, each of whom was the patron deity of the seventy nations. This idea appears behind the Dead Sea Scrolls reading and the Septuagint translation of Deuteronomy 32:8-9. In this passage, El is the head of the divine family, and each member of the divine family receives a nation of hi s own: Israel is the portion of Yahweh. The Masoretic Text, evidently uncomfortable with the polytheism expressed in the phrase "according to the number of the divine sons," altered the reading to "according to the number of the children of Israel" (also thought to be seventy). Psalm 82 also presents the god El presiding in a divine assembly at which Yahweh stands up and makes his accusation against the other gods. Here the text shows the older religious worldview which the passage is denouncing.
By some point in the late monarchy, it is evident that the god El was identified with Yahweh, and as a result, Yahweh-El is the husband of the goddess, Asherah. This is the situation represented by biblical condemnations of her cult symbol in the Jerusalem temple (evidently) and in the inscriptions mentioned above. In this form, the religious devotion to Yahweh casts him in the role of the Divine King ruling over all the other deities. This religious outlook appears, for example, in Psalm 29:2, where the "sons of God" or really divine sons or children are called upon to worship Yahweh, the Divine King. The Temple, with its various expressions of polytheism, also assumed that this place was Yahweh's palace which was populated by those under his power. The tour given by Ezekiel 8-10 suggests such a picture. This picture of royal power was further developed with the monotheism of the eighth to the sixth centuries. The other gods became mere expressions of Yahweh's power, and the divine messengers became understood as little more than minor divine beings expressive of Yahweh's power. In other words, the head god became the godhead.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Lucifer777
You have suggested that though in past
posts. You have presumed the guilt of people by suggesting that the only way to rid that ideology is through genocide.
Capitalism is nothing more than a free market, free from government intrusion. Nothing wrong with freedom of individual and economic freedom.
I have no will to commit any atrocity. Nor has any order from my lips or thus under my watch. You don't even know what I do.
The Duke of Kent is not my leader. He only has power over Masons in England. What part of this don't you get?
You are very much like the Nazis you try to paint me to be. It's ironic if someone came in here and compared our posts you'd sound like the monster in all of it.
Never knew we were narcotics traffickers. When did that happen?
"In my 30-year history in the Drug Enforcement Administration and related agencies, the major targets of my investigations almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA." --Dennis Dayle, former chief of an elite DEA enforcement unit.
"For decades, the CIA, the Pentagon, and secret organizations like Oliver North's Enterprise have been supporting and protecting the world's biggest drug dealers.... The Contras and some of their Central American allies ... have been documented by DEA as supplying ... at least 50 percent of our national coc aine consumption. They were the main conduit to the United States for Colombian coc aine during the 1980's. The rest of the drug supply ... came from other CIA-supported groups, such as DFS (the Mexican CIA) ... [and] other groups and/or individuals like Manual Noriega." (Ex-DEA agent Michael Levine: The Big White Lie: The CIA and the Cocaine/Crack Epidemic)
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I'm not here to discuss the evils of the US through liberal eyes.
CIA Report Exposes Drug Smuggling Scandal
By GARY WEBB
The sale of missiles to the Ayatollah Khomeini, it seems, wasn't the
real scandal of the Iran-contra affair. It was the sale of coc aine to
American citizens.
This we know thanks to a recently declassified CIA inspector
general's report.
Though hacked and shredded to about half its original length for
alleged national security reasons, the 361-page CIA report paints a
damning picture of official malfeasance.
Had these secret cables surfaced during the firestorm of controversy
then raging over Iran-contra, it is likely neither the CIA nor the
Reagan administration would have survived the conflagration.
By 1987, the CIA report shows, the agency was sitting on six years'
worth of reports from field agents, station chiefs, informants,
private citizens and some of the contras themselves, all indicating
that Ronald Reagan's "freedom fighters'' were shipping planeloads of
coc aine and marijuana into the U.S.
The justice department's files likewise bulged with evidence of
contra drug-running, including eyewitness testimony from inside
informants. Ditto for the state department. The CIA had briefed
vice-president George Bush personally.
"Allegations of drug trafficking continue to plague our operations,''
CIA headquarters grumbled in a July 1986 cable to its agents in Costa
Rica.
Prime example
A prime example was international drug kingpin Norwin Meneses, a
California-based contra who supplied the South-Central L.A. crack
market with coc aine powder during the 80s and early 90s.
A 1988 FBI cable shows that the bureau knew Meneses was working for
the drug enforcement agency (DEA) and believed he "was, and may still
be, an informant for the Central Intelligence Agency.'' At the time,
the FBI was unsuccessfully seeking his indictment on federal
coc aine-trafficking charges.
According to the report, the CIA not only failed to act against the
contra traffickers, but also, deliberately or otherwise, misled
others who were investigating them.
The agency repeatedly sent false reports to U.S. attorneys, U.S.
customs and other federal agencies assuring them that the CIA had no
record of men and companies who were plainly listed in CIA files as
being involved with drugs.
Most important, the declassified cables show that the CIA knew
exactly what it was doing and was fully aware of how the American
public would react if word of its shenanigans ever surfaced.
"There is a very real risk that news of our relationship with (Alan
Hyde), whose reputation as an alleged drug trafficker is widely known
to various agencies, will hit the public domain -- something that
could bring our program to a full stop,'' CIA headquarters nervously
cabled its agents in Honduras in July 1987.
Six years later, the CIA report says, the agency was still protecting
Honduran trafficker Hyde in an effort to keep the CIA's relationship
with drug dealers during the contra war under wraps.
A March 11, 1993, cable discouraged counter-narcotics efforts against
Hyde because "his connection to the CIA is well documented and could
prove difficult in the prosecution stage,'' says the report, which
was posted on the CIA's Web site in early October.
The CIA knew from the very beginning of the war that the men it had
hired to run its main contra army were narco-terrorists, but it
continued to finance and protect them.
Contra army
In September 1981 -- to take just one example -- as the CIA was
becoming formally involved with the contras, the agency learned that
a faction called the Legion of September 15 "had made a decision to
engage in drug smuggling to the United States in order to finance its
anti-Sandinista operations.''
A few months after discovering the Legion's involvement with drugs,
the CIA put the group's senior commanders in charge of the agency's
newly formed contra organization, the Nicaraguan Democratic Force
(FDN).
According to the testimony of former L.A. drug kingpin Danilo
Blandon, the contra middleman who sold Meneses' coc aine to
South-Central's crack dealers, it was the Legion's commander in
chief, Enrique Bermudez, who recruited him and Meneses in late 1981
to raise money for the contras in California.
As part of their fundraising efforts, they began selling coc aine to
the street gangs of South-Central and, in the process, helped touch
off the crack-coc aine explosion there.
The inspector general's report should put to rest the long-simmering
historical debate over what the CIA as an institution knew about the
contras' drug trafficking. The answer? It knew everything, despite
its best efforts to remain ignorant.
So where was the watchdog press while the Reagan administration,
Congress and the CIA were scrambling to keep a lid on the contra drug
connection? Dishing out the official story as fast as possible.
Only now -- nearly 12 years later -- can we fully appreciate what an
astounding lie that was and how eagerly it was swallowed by a
gullible Washington, DC, press corps.
While the press was dismissing the issue as the combined fantasies of
dopers and contra-haters, the DEA was sitting on information from
several reliable informants -- eyewitnesses on the U.S. government's
payroll -- who reported that the contras were selling drugs in Los
Angeles and San Francisco with the CIA's connivance.
DEA operative
In one case, Ivan Torres, a contra official who was part of Blandon's
South Central drug ring, told an undercover DEA operative that "CIA
representatives are aware of his drug-related activities and that
they don't mind. He said they have gone so far as to as to encourage
coc aine trafficking by members of the contras because they know it is
a good source of income.''
That 1987 DEA report corroborated information the drug agency had
received two years earlier from Renato Pena, another member of the
Blandon/Meneses coc aine ring and the FDN's military representative in
San Francisco.
In 1985, Pena told the DEA that "the CIA was allowing the contras to
fly drugs into the United States, sell them and keep the proceeds.''
Pena told CIA inspectors that "Norwin Meneses and Danilo Blandon told
him they were raising money for the contras through drug-dealing and
that Blandon stated that the contras would not have been able to
operate without drug proceeds."
Ironically, these recently declassified reports are still secret to
most Americans.
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Originally posted by onequestion
You are clouding the minds of others.
You have subjective judgments about the validity of others spiritual paths.
Are you explaining your own spiritual path, or are you dissuading others from theirs?
Since the Isaiah passage in question is clearly directed to the KIng of Babylon and begins with "thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say.... " then it has often been stated that Helel Ben-Shachar refers to the KIng of Babylon, though I do concede that this is also speculative.
...it is more probable that this passage is an allusion to a Canaantie or Phoenician myth about how Helel, son of the god Shahar, sought the throne of the chief god and was cast down into the abyss because of this. Evidence for this theory comes from an Ugaritic poem about two divine children, Shachar (dawn) and Shalim (dusk), who were born as the result of the intercourse of the god El with mortal women. That would make El, Elyon, and Shahar members of the Canaanite pantheon and the "mount of meeting" is the abode of the gods, which corresponds to Mount Olympus in Greek mythology.
Unfortunately, this is just speculation as archaeologists have not uncovered any Canaanite sources that describe Helel ben Shahar or a revolt against Elyon.
You were the signet of perfection,[a]
(D) full of wisdom and(E) perfect in beauty.
13You were in(F) Eden, the garden of God;
(G) every precious stone was your covering,
(H) sardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,(I) emerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.[c]
On the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14You were an anointed(J) guardian cherub.
I placed you;[d] you were on(K) the holy mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15You were blameless in your ways
(L) from the day you were created,
till unrighteousness was found in you.
16In the abundance of(M) your trade
you were filled with violence in your midst, and you sinned;
so I cast you as a profane thing from(N) the mountain of God,
and I destroyed you,[e](O) O guardian cherub,
from the midst of the stones of fire.
17(P) Your heart was proud because of(Q) your beauty;
you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.
I cast you to the ground;
I exposed you before kings,
to feast their eyes on you.
18By the multitude of your iniquities,
in the unrighteousness of your trade
you profaned your sanctuaries;
so(R) I brought fire out from your midst;
it consumed you,
and I turned you to ashes on the earth
(S) in the sight of all who saw you.
19All who know you among the peoples
are appalled at you;
(T) you have come to a dreadful end
and shall be no more forever."
It is merely because of the insertion of the name "Lucifer" into the Latin text and later in the English 1611 version of the King James Bible that this myth has become popular, however the name Lucifer certainly does not appear in the original.
And he said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.
Originally posted by "Lucifer777"
"This is the Way of the Lightning down the Tree of Life, also known as the Flaming Sword."
I have no idea why anyone would attribute "The Fool" to 21 since it is the first path on the tree and generally assigned to zero whereas 21 is the final destination of the fool, "The Universe" in the Thoth system, but as we are merely speaking of a system of human archetypes and experience, people tend to just make things up as they go along and it is pointless to argue.
The Ray of Creation
10: Runes Ur, Is, and Sig
Originally posted by Tamahu
Originally posted by "Lucifer777"
"This is the Way of the Lightning down the Tree of Life, also known as the Flaming Sword."
I have no idea why anyone would attribute "The Fool" to 21 since it is the first path on the tree and generally assigned to zero whereas 21 is the final destination of the fool, "The Universe" in the Thoth system, but as we are merely speaking of a system of human archetypes and experience, people tend to just make things up as they go along and it is pointless to argue.
It is taught that the one who receives the Flaming Sword is the one who is capable of Raising the Kundalini with the Karmamudra practice (see also: Dharmamudra, Jnanamudra, Samayamudra, and Mahamudra), which is working with the Shekinah and the Three Fires of the Hebrew letter Shin.
In relation to this, the explanation of the correct assigning of the attributes of the Arcana of the Tarot ("The Fool" in particular) is found within the first link posted in this post:
Lost Keys of Freemasonry
Regarding the Ray of Creation of the Tree of Life, the following audio lectures come to mind:
The Ray of Creation
10: Runes Ur, Is, and Sig
Anyway, perhaps I'll have more time to post in this thread later on.
edit on 4-4-2011 by Tamahu because: edited text
Originally posted by "Lucifer777"
All chidren begin the path as fools; and hopefuly we end up as wise men and women, but the idea that we are born wise and end up is fools is turning the system on it's head. The the Fool inversed is minus zero (metaphorically speaking) and the wise person is 21 or 22, and understands the "universe," or in some systems, the "world,." within the realm of what is knowable of course.
The Sensual Mind
While the child is growing, his sensual mind is opening little by little. This sensual mind in itself and by itself gives the child information through external sensorial perceptions and it is precisely with the information granted through such perceptions that the sensual mind always elaborates the contents of its concepts; because of this, our present mind can never know anything about reality. Its reasoning processes are subjective; they move within a vicious circle: the circle of external sensorial perceptions; this is obvious.
Now you will comprehend for yourselves, maybe a little more clearly, what subjective reasoning is in itself, but a complete differentiation between subjective reasoning and objective reasoning must be made.
It is obvious that the child has to go through all the educational processes: kindergarten, elementary, high school, and university. The subjective reasoning is nourished with all the data that these distinct scholastic institutions grant unto it. But truly no educational institute can give to a child, youth, or teenager existing data about that which is not of time, about that which is Reality.
Truly, the speculations of subjective reasoning always arrive at intellectualism, at the absurd field of utopianism or, in the best cases, towards simple opinions of a subjective type, but never to the experience of the truth, never to experience that which is not from time.
On the other hand, objective reasoning, that disgracefully does not receive any instruction because there is no school that teaches it, remains abandoned. Undoubtedly, objective reasoning processes obviously conduct us towards exact and perfect postulates.
The child is always subjectively educated from place to place; for him, no form of superior instruction exists. All data, all scholastic matters, all family matters, etc. that the senses grant to the subjective mind of the teenager, are merely empirical and subjective, and this is pitiful.
Towards the beginning, the child has still not lost the capacity of astonishment. Obviously the child looks in wonder on any phenomena: a beautiful toy awakens in him this astonishment, and with this toy the child plays. This capacity of wonder disappears as the child grows, as his sensual mind receives data from school and collage. Finally, the instant in which the child becomes a youth arrives and complete loss of this capacity of astonishment.
Unfortunately, the data that one receives in collages, schools, and educational centers only serves to nourish the sensual mind, and nothing else. In this way, with these educational systems of schools, academies, and universities, the only thing that we can really achieve is to make for ourselves an artificial personality.
To give an account of this, in reality, truly, the knowledge that is studied in Humanities will never serve to form the Psychological Human Being. In the name of truth, we have to say clearly that the topics that are currently studied in educational institutes do not have any real relationship with the distinct parts of our Being. Therefore, these topics serve only to:
First: Falsify the knowledge of the five cylinders of the organic machine.
Second: Take the capacity of astonishment away from us.
Third: Develop the sensual mind.
Fourth: Form a false personality within us.
Therefore, it should be clearly understood that the sensual mind cannot produce any radical transformation in any way within ourselves. It is very convenient to understand that the sensual mind can never take us from the autonomism and mechanicity, in which we find the people of all the world, even if they appear to be people of a very cultured mind.
It is one thing to be an animalistic human being, an intellectual animal, while it is certainly quite another thing to be a true Psychological Man. Naturally, when I use the word “Man,” I also mean Woman. But this must be clearly understood.
Judging Adulterers
"Even though adultery is a grave action, the truth of whether it has been committed or not is only known to the Divine. Even extrasensory perceptions can be mistaken. Thus, we have no reliable way to accurate judge whether someone else is an adulterer or not. Judging others based on gossip or observation of physical circumstances is insufficient, because we do not know all the facts, especially the will of the Innermost of the person we are observing. If God approves of their actions, who are we to judge? And if God approves, then God will account for it. A good example of this is in the Bible. If we were to apply merely the written law to David, the King of Israel, who not only coveted another man's wife, but arranged for him to die so he could have her himself, we would have to judge him as guilty of numerous faults. Yet, God did not condemn him in accordance with the written law. Why?
"King David, after what happened to him with Batsheva, was very fearful. Because at that time, Dumah ascended to the Holy One, blessed be He, stood before Him, and said, O Master of the universe, in the Torah it says of "the man that commits adultery with another man's wife [that]...the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death" (Vayikra 20:10). Furthermore, it is written, "Moreover, you shall not lie carnally with your neighbor's wife to defile yourself with her" (Ibid.18:20). So what is to become of David, who has profaned the Holy Covenant by desecrating his Brit (genital organ) by committing sexual misconduct? The Holy One, blessed be He, said to him, "David is righteous! And the Holy Covenant remains intact, because it is known to Me that Bat-Sheva was assigned to him since the day the world was created." - Zohar 1 Prologue:14
"Furthermore, what can we say of Jakob, who by the command of God, had four successive wives, Leah, Rachel, Bilhah, and Zilpah? Or Muhammed, with his many wives? Or Padmasambhava, a key founder of Tibetan Buddhism, who had innumerable sexual partners? Or Samael Aun Weor, who also took a consort near the end of his last life? To understand these examples and avoid falling into the mistake of judging or condemning what we do not know, it is important that we understand that there are two laws:
"The First Law: the instructions given directly to the Human Soul by the Innermost or Inner Buddha
"The Second Law: the written law, the vows, commandments, and other guidelines in religions (the commandments are given in Deuteronomy, which comes from deutero, second)
"To modify our own destiny is possible because, “when an inferior law is transcended by a superior law, the superior law washes away the inferior law.” - Samael Aun Weor
"The instructions given by God transcend the written law. The physical senses are not a reliable tool to measure the superior, first law. Thus, we cannot judge others based upon what we hear, are told, or even by what we see with our eyes. It is not our place to judge, but only to love others and have compassion for them."
Lucifer-Prometheus
Originally posted by Tamahu
Unfortunately, the data that one receives in collages, schools, and educational centers only serves to nourish the sensual mind, and nothing else. In this way, with these educational systems of schools, academies, and universities, the only thing that we can really achieve is to make for ourselves an artificial personality.
To give an account of this, in reality, truly, the knowledge that is studied in Humanities will never serve to form the Psychological Human Being. In the name of truth, we have to say clearly that the topics that are currently studied in educational institutes do not have any real relationship with the distinct parts of our Being.
Therefore, it should be clearly understood that the sensual mind cannot produce any radical transformation in any way within ourselves. It is very convenient to understand that the sensual mind can never take us from the autonomism and mechanicity, in which we find the people of all the world, even if they appear to be people of a very cultured mind.
It is one thing to be an animalistic human being, an intellectual animal, while it is certainly quite another thing to be a true Psychological Man.
As for your foundation-less remarks about Samael Aun Weor, let's address them.
"Human-nature-hating"?
No. Samael Aun Weor teaches us how transmute our bestial nature so that we can better express our Hu-Man Nature, through the Intelligent expression of Sacred Sexuality. Therefore he is pro-Human-Nature.
"Misogynistic"?
Show us even a single example.
"Paternalistic"?
Perhaps to some degree. But I think that this would be more of a reflection of adapting to Cosmic Cycles rather than an inherent paternalism. Samael Aun Weor wrote a little about the Cosmic Cycles of which the Masculine and Feminine forces alternate in their periods of influence. He wrote that there are cycles of 42 feminine years and 42 masculine years (84 total) related to the Planet Uranus. Although it seems that there also are bigger cycles of masculine/feminine alternating periods of influence, and cycles within cycles as well.
"Homophobic"?
I've seen nothing of him which would indicate any fear of homosexuality.
"Demon"?
Says you, who promotes the demonic teachings of Aleister Crowley.
"Polygamist"?
No. He never was married to more than one wife at one time. And if he did have more than one sexual relationship (again, not at the same time), it is said that it is because he did so in accordance with the the Law of Karma as understood in the Superior Worlds.
The over-arching feature of their doctrine is the sexual aspect of it. They teach a version of "chasity" that is pretty interesting, although not unheard of in certain new-age and eastern traditions. They insist that people should never have an orgasm, and that a man should never "spill" any semen. Ever. They promote practices of "alchemy" where a man and a woman have sex without, for lack of a better term, finishing in the way most people would. I know that this is similar to something gnosticweb (mysticweb when i was familiar with them) promotes. I never saw anybody do this, they said it was for a committed couple to do in private, but the practice they describe involves saying mantras and visualizing their sexual energy "transmuting," and other such things. I was single throughout the time of my involvement, so i do not know the impact this practice would have, nor do i know if there is any private instruction that they offer a couple who is interested. It would be interesting to hear from somebody who had engaged in this for a few years and then quit, to describe what effect it had on their sexual functions, not to mention their psychology. As a single person i had been simply chaste, which has effects of its own, but that is not as strange, as there are many religious people who refrain from any sexual acts or stimulation while they are unmarried. To begin having sex without finishing it must take extreme discipline and dedication to an ideal, perhaps that is what this group wants in people.
This practice is so central to their doctrine that it is repeated almost constantly in their lectures and in the books written by Samael. They also contend that single people will not make progress in "the work" until they find a spouse to take up this practice with, and they insist that homosexuals are completely lost causes. I cannot overemphasize how obsessed they are with sexual issues. It really is their one answer to all the universe's problems. I can only hope that my own psychology has recovered from this warped doctrine, and hope that others who have taken it seriously can be normal again.
Is it possible that their leader gains sexual access to women in the group by promoting this stuff? Possibly offering to teach them the methods? I have no idea, and it would be hard to make such an accusation since all the instructors were married and promoted monogamy. Again, what went on in deeper levels is known only to them. It is interesting to note that Victor Gomez, aka Samael Aun Weor, the founder of their movement, had quite a few children for someone who never spilled semen, some with women other than his wife. They have an explanation for that of course, which is a little tedious to explain. It is also interesting to note that many cults have strict guidelines on sex, often teaching some kind of chastity, while the leader/guru/whatever seems to gain sexual access to the female members. Just a pattern i've noticed. Whether or not anything like that happens in these gnostic groups is hard to say. They could simply be hung up on sexual issues for whatever reason, and whether or not their leaders are themselves chaste may vary from group to group.
As i mentioned, attendance at their lectures is sparse, as one would imagine for a group that promotes such an unpopular idea. The key may be that the few people you can convince of this doctrine would necessarily be troubled individuals ready to believe almost anything.
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Originally posted by Tamahu
The teachings of Mark Pritchard ("Belzebuub") do not in any way represent the teachings of the Gnostic Movement of Samael Aun Weor. This is partly explained in this post.
Anyhow, Samael Aun Weor wrote that the intellect is indeed a valuable thing when it is in service of the Spirit through Meditation; and that the Gnostic should study art, music, science, mathematics, etc. It is also taught that Meditation is the Way that the Thelemite Does What They Wilt (this is related to the First Law that was mentioned in my previous post). How can we do the Will of our Being, if we are not able to shut off (so to speak) our noisy minds in order to hear The Voice of the Silence?
You keep comparing Gnosis to conventional contemporary exoteric Christianity and Roman Catholicism; yet the thing is, is that these latter groups–which are suppressive and oppressive–do not teach Transmutation, so they are therefore about as far from Gnosis as one can get. You may not believe in Transmutation, which is fine (Transmutation is beyond beliefs anyway); but the fact is, that Transmutation is a Practical Science which was taught by the original Christians (Gnostics), and was also taught by all of the World's Religions, and is most notably taught within the disciplines of Yoga and Tantra. The Science of Transmutation is beyond intellect and beliefs, and must actually be experienced.
Experiences include total loss of visual connection with reality, the sense of not being human or having a body, and the feeling of being in many places at the same time. The loss of reality is so extreme that it becomes ineffable. People have been reported seeing themselves in entirely different settings than their original setting, and many people experience the feeling of being in a simulated reality; often computer simulated. Religious phenomenon is reported at this level; often mentioned is a connection to an "all-knowing presence" or a "universal knowledge", which many equate with extra-terrestrials, artificial intelligence, God, love, or "enlightenment". This level is most often experienced by users of '___'. Users commonly report:
From: en.wikipedia.org...
1.Being clearly thrust into outer-space at extreme speed.
2.Being thrust into an expansive void-like alternate dimension consisting of bright colorful fast moving kaleidoscopic environments, dynamic pulsating colored beams, as well as complex three dimensional geometric, mathematical, and linguistic patterns made of light.
3.Continually traveling at great speeds, while watching patterns fly by morph, open, and reveal more complex patterns within.
4.Encountering different types of living beings and superintelligent body-less entities at the same time as 1, 2, and 3. These reports include contact with free-floating entities made of light resembling giant spheres, humanoids, multiple types of unrecognizable insects, human-sized praying mantises, elves, cephalopods, complex robotic machines, and plants.
5.Intelligent beings attempting to communicate with users via visual linguistics, mathematics, morphing colored diamonds of different textures (flesh, gold, liquid metal, colored light). People report beings/entities manipulating what the user can see and view, propelling the user in different directions at disorienting speeds, forcing the user to view both macro and microscopic scale objects including: planetary systems, galaxies, quasars, natural environments, space habitats, technological utopias, neurons, DNA, mitochondria, trilobites, cephalopods, bryozoa and artificial self-replicating machines.
The Muslims and the US state terrorists have long been the traditional enemies of the Communists, and if you want to kill each other off, the Machievellian style mantra of "[i[Why fight your enemies if you can incite them to fight each other?" applies.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Lucifer777
You're entitled to your misaligned thoughts, but don't expect to ever completely eradicate us and as well as a fight. You can't eradicate a belief or an ideology.
As for stupid things such as "public registries", I can't speak for all Masons, but for me, I'd rather take my ring off and will refuse to take part in the registry. In your endeavors to expose us for nothing more than paranoia, you'll drive us away.
I am a strict Constitutionalists and as such belief in freedom of the people to govern themselves, but like I said, man will always find a way to commit atrocities. Religion is an excuse, not the actual reason (most of the time). Resources is usually the reason.
Ian Traynor, The Privatization of War. $30 Billion Goes to Private Military; Fears Over 'Hired Guns' Policy, Guardian/UK, December 10, 2003: "Private corporations have penetrated western warfare so deeply that they are now the second biggest contributor to coalition forces in Iraq after the Pentagon, a Guardian investigation has established. ... While the official coalition figures list the British as the second largest contingent with around 9,900 troops, they are narrowly outnumbered by the 10,000 private military contractors now on the ground. ... The investigation has also discovered that the proportion of contracted security personnel in the firing line is 10 times greater than during the first Gulf war. In 1991, for every private contractor, there were about 100 servicemen and women; now there are 10. ... The private sector is so firmly embedded in combat, occupation and peacekeeping duties that the phenomenon may have reached the point of no return: the US military would struggle to wage war without it. ... While reliable figures are difficult to come by and governmental accounting and monitoring of the contracts are notoriously shoddy, the US army estimates that of the $87bn (£50.2bn) earmarked this year for the broader Iraqi campaign, including central Asia and Afghanistan, one third of that, nearly $30bn, will be spent on contracts to private companies. ... It is a trend that has been growing worldwide since the end of the cold war, a booming business which entails replacing soldiers wherever possible with highly paid civilians and hired guns not subject to standard military disciplinary procedures."
www.sourcewatch.org...
So you don't know my role, but still assume that because I'm in the military I must support genocide? Well, you shouldn't assume anything, but then again, that's what you do.
The Muslims and the US state terrorists have long been the traditional enemies of the Communists, and if you want to kill each other off, the Machiavellian style mantra of "[i[Why fight your enemies if you can incite them to fight each other?" applies.
So maybe the true conspiracy lies with people (commies) like you. Maybe the wars of today can be tied to your ideology and its manipulations?
The Duke of Kent is the most well known Mason in England, not the entire world.
I've been on inspection teams and have never seen narcotics hidden away. I know some soldiers have been caught using drugs, but never teams or units ordered to traffick.
Originally posted by Lucifer777
..... It is no coincidence that when the US military were fighting in Vietnam that most of the world's heroin supply came from the Golden Triangle and that now they are in Afghanistan, most of the world's heroin supply now comes from there where the Anglo-American narco-terrorists prop up a narco-state whose president and his brother are probably the world's major suppliers of heroin ( en.wikipedia.org... ).
According to the UN, under the Taliban, who were trying to stop opium production, back in 2001 Afghanistan was only producing less than 200 tons of heroin per annum and it is now around 6000 tons ( www.time.com... ) under the regime of the US allies who are essentially the same drug dealers whom the Taliban overthrew. That is what the Anglo-American mercenaries have been dying for, though in line with the "Give me one, two...many Vietnams." mantra, I suppose that it is good for generating militant hatred against the Anglo-American narco-terrorists.
"In my 30-year history in the Drug Enforcement Administration and related agencies, the major targets of my investigations almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA." --Dennis Dayle, former chief of an elite DEA enforcement unit.
"For decades, the CIA, the Pentagon, and secret organizations like Oliver North's Enterprise have been supporting and protecting the world's biggest drug dealers.... The Contras and some of their Central American allies ... have been documented by DEA as supplying ... at least 50 percent of our national coc aine consumption. They were the main conduit to the United States for Colombian coc aine during the 1980's. The rest of the drug supply ... came from other CIA-supported groups, such as DFS (the Mexican CIA) ... [and] other groups and/or individuals like Manual Noriega." (Ex-DEA agent Michael Levine: The Big White Lie: The CIA and the Cocaine/Crack Epidemic)
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More on: www.ciadrugs.com... (50 Years of CIA drug trafficking).
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Above: Michael Ruppert - CIA and Drug Running
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Above: The Secret History: CIA Drug Ops Conspiracy (unaired documentary)
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More on CIA drugs trafficking:
The CIA: America's Premier International Terrorist Organization www.serendipity.li...
A timeline of CIA atrocities: www.serendipity.li...
CIA support for death squads www.serendipity.li...
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CIA Report Exposes Drug Smuggling Scandal
By GARY WEBB
The sale of missiles to the Ayatollah Khomeini, it seems, wasn't the
real scandal of the Iran-contra affair. It was the sale of coc aine to
American citizens.
This we know thanks to a recently declassified CIA inspector
general's report.
Though hacked and shredded to about half its original length for
alleged national security reasons, the 361-page CIA report paints a
damning picture of official malfeasance.
Had these secret cables surfaced during the firestorm of controversy
then raging over Iran-contra, it is likely neither the CIA nor the
Reagan administration would have survived the conflagration.
By 1987, the CIA report shows, the agency was sitting on six years'
worth of reports from field agents, station chiefs, informants,
private citizens and some of the contras themselves, all indicating
that Ronald Reagan's "freedom fighters'' were shipping planeloads of
coc aine and marijuana into the U.S.
The justice department's files likewise bulged with evidence of
contra drug-running, including eyewitness testimony from inside
informants. Ditto for the state department. The CIA had briefed
vice-president George Bush personally.
"Allegations of drug trafficking continue to plague our operations,''
CIA headquarters grumbled in a July 1986 cable to its agents in Costa
Rica.
Prime example
A prime example was international drug kingpin Norwin Meneses, a
California-based contra who supplied the South-Central L.A. crack
market with coc aine powder during the 80s and early 90s.
A 1988 FBI cable shows that the bureau knew Meneses was working for
the drug enforcement agency (DEA) and believed he "was, and may still
be, an informant for the Central Intelligence Agency.'' At the time,
the FBI was unsuccessfully seeking his indictment on federal
coc aine-trafficking charges.
According to the report, the CIA not only failed to act against the
contra traffickers, but also, deliberately or otherwise, misled
others who were investigating them.
The agency repeatedly sent false reports to U.S. attorneys, U.S.
customs and other federal agencies assuring them that the CIA had no
record of men and companies who were plainly listed in CIA files as
being involved with drugs.
Most important, the declassified cables show that the CIA knew
exactly what it was doing and was fully aware of how the American
public would react if word of its shenanigans ever surfaced.
"There is a very real risk that news of our relationship with (Alan
Hyde), whose reputation as an alleged drug trafficker is widely known
to various agencies, will hit the public domain -- something that
could bring our program to a full stop,'' CIA headquarters nervously
cabled its agents in Honduras in July 1987.
Six years later, the CIA report says, the agency was still protecting
Honduran trafficker Hyde in an effort to keep the CIA's relationship
with drug dealers during the contra war under wraps.
A March 11, 1993, cable discouraged counter-narcotics efforts against
Hyde because "his connection to the CIA is well documented and could
prove difficult in the prosecution stage,'' says the report, which
was posted on the CIA's Web site in early October.
The CIA knew from the very beginning of the war that the men it had
hired to run its main contra army were narco-terrorists, but it
continued to finance and protect them.
Contra army
In September 1981 -- to take just one example -- as the CIA was
becoming formally involved with the contras, the agency learned that
a faction called the Legion of September 15 "had made a decision to
engage in drug smuggling to the United States in order to finance its
anti-Sandinista operations.''
A few months after discovering the Legion's involvement with drugs,
the CIA put the group's senior commanders in charge of the agency's
newly formed contra organization, the Nicaraguan Democratic Force
(FDN).
According to the testimony of former L.A. drug kingpin Danilo
Blandon, the contra middleman who sold Meneses' coc aine to
South-Central's crack dealers, it was the Legion's commander in
chief, Enrique Bermudez, who recruited him and Meneses in late 1981
to raise money for the contras in California.
As part of their fundraising efforts, they began selling coc aine to
the street gangs of South-Central and, in the process, helped touch
off the crack-coc aine explosion there.
The inspector general's report should put to rest the long-simmering
historical debate over what the CIA as an institution knew about the
contras' drug trafficking. The answer? It knew everything, despite
its best efforts to remain ignorant.
So where was the watchdog press while the Reagan administration,
Congress and the CIA were scrambling to keep a lid on the contra drug
connection? Dishing out the official story as fast as possible.
Only now -- nearly 12 years later -- can we fully appreciate what an
astounding lie that was and how eagerly it was swallowed by a
gullible Washington, DC, press corps.
While the press was dismissing the issue as the combined fantasies of
dopers and contra-haters, the DEA was sitting on information from
several reliable informants -- eyewitnesses on the U.S. government's
payroll -- who reported that the contras were selling drugs in Los
Angeles and San Francisco with the CIA's connivance.
DEA operative
In one case, Ivan Torres, a contra official who was part of Blandon's
South Central drug ring, told an undercover DEA operative that "CIA
representatives are aware of his drug-related activities and that
they don't mind. He said they have gone so far as to as to encourage
coc aine trafficking by members of the contras because they know it is
a good source of income.''
That 1987 DEA report corroborated information the drug agency had
received two years earlier from Renato Pena, another member of the
Blandon/Meneses coc aine ring and the FDN's military representative in
San Francisco.
In 1985, Pena told the DEA that "the CIA was allowing the contras to
fly drugs into the United States, sell them and keep the proceeds.''
Pena told CIA inspectors that "Norwin Meneses and Danilo Blandon told
him they were raising money for the contras through drug-dealing and
that Blandon stated that the contras would not have been able to
operate without drug proceeds."
Ironically, these recently declassified reports are still secret to
most Americans.
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More on THE CIA: "COCAINE IMPORTING AGENCY"
on: www.angelfire.com...
The entirety of Rodney Stiche's exhaustive work of Biblical proportions "Defrauding America" can be read on: www.copi.com...
See also: ciadrugs.homestead.com...
Plus, the CIA is not the same as the military. I cannot speak for the CIA and their covert operations.
Again, not here to discuss your hatred of my country.
Religion is simply a justification which political leaders such as George "God told me to invade Iraq" Bush use to hypnotise the religious fanatics among the masses into supporting state terrorism and imperialism.
None of us know our end, really, or what hand will guide us there. A king may move a man, a father may claim a son, but that man can also move himself, and only then does that man truly begin his own game. Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even though those who presume to play you be kings or men of power. When you stand before God, you cannot say, "But I was told by others to do thus," or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice. Remember that.
So the Communists are responsible for US imperialism, state terrorism, narco-terrorism and numerous US backed regimes and coups of the far political right? It sounds to me like you may have been reading too much Henry Makow.