Lack of feminine characteristics...

Originally posted by StigShen
reply to post by dalloway

 

Spot on. Fantastic post. The value of true feminism is lost on the feminist agenda. There can be equality without sameness. The feminist agenda has stripped women of their inherent strengths and propped them up with the illusion now that they are the same as men. Women will never be men. And why the hell should they want to be?

Feminists are generally women with low self esteem and generally have a bone to pick with everyone in the society with their short comings. Radicalism and Maintstream Deviation has never worked in any society. However it seems to be a dyeing concept. Now there are more Lesbians instead of Feminists with similar tone and attitude towards society. Likewise there are lot more Gay men today with a attitude towards the society. Generally the Gays and Lesbians population often have conflicting and anti-anything opinion. They love to argue and prove their anti-social ways to the mainstream. In a votebank politics, thats all one needs is idiots. While the people are trying to figure out a place for themselves in the society (which in non-western cultures is well known by puberty), the politicians are the winners who use the idiots to place themselves in power. Common people. Grow up and do the Right thing. It is that simple. Always do the right thing.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by StigShen
It is not okay for a woman to have four kids by four different men living on foodstamps and section 8 housing. For example.

Were are the fathers?
Again - - the woman is blamed.

Definitely the woman will be blamed if she had 4 different babies with 4 different fathers. Moreoever it speaks volumes when the men are not around (Has to be a nagging one for all of them to leave her).

Everyone seems to be swirving off the topic here. The topic is about Women (From East) vs Women (From West). Stop the stupid blame game. Stick to the topic and explain what the OP has posted. Nobody is forcing anyone to follow anything. It is a matter of self respect and dignity. We all create our own destiny and course in life. Blaming the men is not going to solve anything. Seriously.

reply to post by polarwarrior


They struggle for the power so to be able to show there is no power needed. The insight is very clear.

Originally posted by PaR3v
they're stupid here. they do things solely based on peer pressure and peer approval, on purpose.

women feel more liberated around here and act on whatever they please. not every girl will put out unless you have her conditions met in a way. not all the time.

then...in colleges here, the women come from all over the world and IMAGE THEM so perfectly. it's nonsense.

The trick around here is not to care. Eventually the female will see who she really is and give in.

Then you have to think...there aren't really many Alpha Males out there or else we wouldn't have this problem...

also women in America only do that cause they're retarded peer acceptance way through the roof.

I have to agree with your last statement many women do not like me, because not only do I not befriend them, (I have no friends anyhow) but when they give their opinion it's always against what i believe should be the result. So I have learned not to tell any women my problems anymore as they will not like what I have to say. Plus, i feel other people's opinions suck! It's negative and the results that happen from them are also negative. I have relationships end with women because I either didn't listen to them, or I didn't give them enough drama. I feel male friends are more fun, they don't want to hear the drama so i don't tell them any drama and they are always happy.

reply to post by Yeah-Alright


I agree with you. I think part of a womans role is to use those qualities to help her man. I don't mean be a slave to anyone. What I mean is, make him feel like he is the king of the castle. I think this is a big part of the American degredation. Men are losing their confidence without the support of a good woman. I for one have a good woman, but at times I feel like she oversteps some traditional boundries. If I was attractive to other women then this would affect my confidence, I am sure. Who knows, if she didn't do the stuff she did, I might not even notice that I am attractive to the opposite sex. (disclaimer: not being egotistical, I just notice the attention I get.)

reply to post by Yeah-Alright


I am a stickler for tradition. I believe in the balance. I believe in natures way.
I do not like what the western females have become, I do not like the lack of nurturing and family.
I also do not like the in the west it takes 2 incomes now to raise a family, thus taking the nurturing healing feminine from the home and children and put it out there is an egoic male dominated world.

As a traditional person, each job is VERY important, none less than another. Both mother and father, male and female have important roles to play in life, when you take the divine feminine energy away, you take away some of the most important aspects of life and "god" for that matter.

It really comes down to left brain right brain, XX XY type thing. BALANCE and we are out of it.
I LOVE that my girlfriend is brilliant and tough, but at the same time I would love a feminine girlish side as well, one who is proud of the home, emotions and family setting, one who loves and heals and brings health and wellness. But in the world we are lucky to find anyone anymore... I suppose.

Now do I think gay couples are lack in any other this, BY FAR NO!
The feminine nature is present in both lesbian and gay male couples. Its there in the relationship, bringing balance.

I do think we are going back soon, the turns the world is taking will bring us back to a time when women honor the males role in protecting the home, providing and honoring the male side of the relationship.
I am NOT saying that women cannot provide these things for themselves, just the same as men. But nature has even genetically altered our bodies to provide functions. Women have better hand eye coordination, while men have testosterone for being stronger to take down wild prey and lift heavy stuff. Women have better social skills and its thought that women first developed words in language while men grunted and used hand gestures during hunts.

I love women and what they bring to the world. I cannot imagine a world without them.
The fact that they have been turned into egoic monsters just like the males makes me very sad.
Its all part of the plan.

Ever notice how many young men are opting to live single? Ever wonder why?

OK, here goes the opinion of a 64 year old man, who has been married to his lovely traditional lady (46 years) , who is also his best friend. Many young men I have worked with express dismay at the "ballsy" women they encounter in today's world. Their thoughts are that they would be sentencing themselves to a life of subjugation and servitude to just survive a marriage. They reason that they can have the sex without the hassle for the rest of their lives. Honestly, as I look about me today, I understand their reasoning.

What lefltist feminist supported Sarah Palin, even though she is the very picture of what they supposedly wanted women to be, a decision-maker in her family, strong, career-minded, doi-it-all-superwoman, attractive, can hunt like a man, rugged yet still feminine. The only difference between Sarah and the leftist feminists is that she still supports conservative values like Pro-life, and the spiritual life. She didn't go along with the communist program spear-headed by Betty Friedan, who really was associated with the communist party, and very much an activist.
Leftist feminists only support that which relates to their political outlook, and not women in general.

reply to post by dalloway


Excellent commentary, although I kind of like that women are allowed now to dress outside the corporate box, but we should still dress with decorum. An interesting thing to note, is that women have gotten so caught up in the man's work world, we do lose that feminine empathy, and we even end up suppressing the natural feminine tendencies in order to survive the dog eat dog world. When did women stop supporting those things we wanted to see happen, and start becoming those things which we despised in the world. (Code Pink not included because they are commies sucking up to leftist like Chavez).

reply to post by StigShen


So how come your not more subordinate if being subordinate is such a wonderful thing? Most men, following your theory, are very very very small minded then.

ie: your words... changed.... Small-minded men see a subordinate role as a weakness.

Men just wanna be subordinate, but they have fooled themselves into believing that only "real men" are dominate, and only "real women" are subordinate.

The truth is, both men and women have both subordinate and dominate portions to their personality.

For one split moment, I see exactly what is wrong with this entire world.

Abuse winds it's way across the face of this world, creating chaos and hate. That is what is wrong. Abuse, chaos and hate, JUDGMENT, refusal to see a person as who they are, but only as we "think" they are, or as we "want" them to be, not acknowledging who they actually are.

An assertive woman, an assertive man. Both who care about the world and everything in it, this is what will save this world. Not one being subordinate or dominate at all times. But either one taking either role when the need calls for it. If my husband is tired and hurting, I will care for him, if I am tired and hurting, he will care for me. He will nurture me when I need it, and I will nurture him when he needs it.

That, is the healthy way, each one taking the role in each manner that is needed when needed.

If you view the world as one having to be dominate, and one having to be subordinate, that is a power over another, instead of a power over self. Go on and find some power over yourself, all of you women haters, all of you men haters, get power over yourselves instead of trying to get power over someone else. THAT will be the moment you find true awareness and true contentment.

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reply to post by amazed
Agree. It is a balancing act between the couple these days. In the old days things were different when there was plenty and abundant resources and men were the sole bread winners in a average family all over the world. Today many countries are changing rapidly to keep up with the Westernization of their atmoshphere that it has created just as many problems with the progress that it endured.

However who is going to teach the simple moral lessons and the so called 'Way of Life' to both the men and women? Parents? Teachers? Society? Who? We all can talk about it and type away our thoughts. How many individuals actually practice what they preach or preach the lost souls at a bar or a club or at a mall or school or college? Not many. Most people get the infamous BIRDY or Threat if they try to preach or live up to their Social Responsibility. It all has to start with the Family Structure and Religion before it is passed onto the Society and ultimately the Next Generation even while keeping up with the Most Modernized of Civilization or Society while competing Globally.

There is a term called as 'Penis Envy' in the Psychology World. Look at the below link for the news. More women want to be on the War Front. Unless it is a political propoganda, most of them do not know the horrors of War.

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i think we're all human and if given the chance to all be equal then we'd prolly be relatively similar in terms of ego and what not-the things you've discribed... but its society to blame

Well, being a young married man, I can bring some insight to this situation.

My wife, she is a strong, empowered woman, managed stores, managed people, well learned, authorative, so on and so forth. She is intimidating to many many men, due to men not having any strength or authority of their own due to the rise of feministic control and influence. This aside, she is a woman who knows what is proper. She puts me as her leader, I am the head of the household, I have the final desision when it comes to anything of importance, such as finances, vacations, and the like. She makes sure I am the Alpha Male, and she looks after the cooking, cleaning (I do help with this stuff) laundry, and caring for our son. Now, she used to live the "liberated female" life, doing as she wanted, but she has told me several times, that she feels more fufilled being monogamous, being the housewife, being a typical 1800's woman. This works, because I try to be a 'mans man' as the saying goes. We both have our lot in life, and our lots with each other, and it works amazingly.

Originally posted by gam3pr0
i think we're all human and if given the chance to all be equal then we'd prolly be relatively similar in terms of ego and what not-the things you've discribed... but its society to blame

Think how boring or robotic the society would be ? Instead of cherishing the differences, the dominant ones try directly/indirectly to force their values and morals down to other societies and individuals. Definitely its a recipe for failure. Cultural values and Morals should be taught religiously to every single child. Unfortunately most parents do not have the time as they're busy making the ends meet. It is the Political and Business world to be blamed which shape the Workforce and Lifestyle in general by turning the middle class into a working class donkey.

Originally posted by IronArm
Well, being a young married man, I can bring some insight to this situation.

My wife, she is a strong, empowered woman, managed stores, managed people, well learned, authorative, so on and so forth. She is intimidating to many many men, due to men not having any strength or authority of their own due to the rise of feministic control and influence. This aside, she is a woman who knows what is proper. She puts me as her leader, I am the head of the household, I have the final desision when it comes to anything of importance, such as finances, vacations, and the like. She makes sure I am the Alpha Male, and she looks after the cooking, cleaning (I do help with this stuff) laundry, and caring for our son. Now, she used to live the "liberated female" life, doing as she wanted, but she has told me several times, that she feels more fufilled being monogamous, being the housewife, being a typical 1800's woman. This works, because I try to be a 'mans man' as the saying goes. We both have our lot in life, and our lots with each other, and it works amazingly.

Likewise here as well. Its how you treat a woman. Most of what I know is old fashioned but it works.

Feminism has gone too far and thats the truth whether people like it or not!
It seems now that feminists are out to get superiority instead of equality(which i'm all for) and its all selfish.

reply to post by Xiamara


''There are no genes determining purely feminine or male characteristics''. ARE YOU SERIOUS? of course there are genes that make it the way it is so if you think otherwise then i think you need to learn something about genetics.

In my experience, females my age (22) or less are completely helpless. There are some driven and successful females among the group but all I ever run into are the girls that expect everything to be done for them without even a bit of help. Maybe I'm just. A magnet for those people .

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*claps* you've got it in one there mate.