In less than 90 days, you will be "REQUIRED" by Federal Law to carry a "National ID" card.

Originally posted by Screwed
Using technology to enslave us has been a running theme.
It can ALWAYS be defeated.
Everytime!

But I'm sure the masses will just gobble it up as they so predictably do everytime
someone proposes to enslave us further.

USA USA USA USA!

Can we stop this bill from passing? I can't stand the way they enslave us with technology anymore. As it is, I barely get on my computer. I refuse to comply with their demands. They can't force me to carry a tracking device. After all, we are all human. Alas, the masses do seem to gobble it up, well said.

And what will happen if I don't comply?

reply to post by mobocracy


I first hear about Veri-Chip about three years ago and studied the technology behind it. I even went as far as buying a rfid expierimentation kit with a reader and a book of things you can do with it. It is pretty amazing, if I can get that much tech for $99 imagine what the govt can do with unlimited funds. Most barcode systems are being switched over to rfid for convience and for easier tracking of what the consumers actually buy. Many dogs have already been implanted with chips that vets can scan when the dog is lost or found etc.

Trying to force all Americans to carry chips that track their every movement would probably just take some part of Washington D.C. one step closer to being the next Tahrir Square.

reply to post by Hitoshura


God, I hope you're right!

Nothing a high-powered magnet can't fix.

reply to post by donkeystyle


No, that is foolish. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

We only need to force the government to obey the Constitution.

UPDATE: From intelhubradio.com

In what could only be described as a Masterpiece in Incrementalism, the long awaited Real ID System is now mandating that states be in compliance by May 11, 2011.

theintelhubradio.com... y-state-compliance-by-may-11-2011/

Originally posted by thegoods724
Is there any word on who is getting the contract to make these things, CHINA? Can they even make 300 million of these in 90 days?

They are already made. I got one for me and the relatives I take care of.
Long story......
I've been saying it was coming but of course, who listens to reason as long as people still need spokes models to tell them what they need to know. Not that it matters because IMO, this was too short notice, deliberately done so people can not get their ID's in time for something.
Go to your passport office today guys or get chipped tomorrow.

Originally posted by Byteman
reply to post by donkeystyle

 

No, that is foolish. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

We only need to force the government to obey the Constitution.

People like this are already on board for the collapse of the US and are in favor for NWO AMERO! You will not be able to tell them anything until they experience for themselves the same things that the Germans did during Nazi times. It is very obvious they want it more than they want the US.

Originally posted by Zezima
Wait, so does this mean come May 11, we will be required to get this? Or will it be given out when your license expires?

Don't be surprised if you are paying for both the 10 yr Nat ID and your 4 yr driver's licence. Do you think the local municipalities are going to give up their income to NWO? Doubt it.

BTW, when I got mine, they did not require me to surrender my driver's licence. I have no idea if this will be the norm in the future or not.

Oh and a funny thing: I got it in a week because my family was going on a cruise to the East Bahamas and we were called by the cruise line and they told us that it would be best if we got the Nat ID or passport, eventhough it was not a requirement for boarding/docking at ports, as a 'just in case' security.
Now I know what they meant. If this change would have happened during the cruise, it would have made it hard to return to the US.
Also some of those articles say this has been in effect since 2005 so they have the cards. I think the closeness of deadline is to put a lot of people in jail. Why? Well, before you saw it here, where did you last see it? I haven't heard a peep since 2005 and now this?
Who wants to bet that there is about to be a flood of people jailed because they were watching music videos or playing video games in stead of getting prepared?

reply to post by bekod


Yeah we've had those here available as an option for about a year or so. Supposedly to make it quicker to get across the border. Well that's what they say it's for anyways. It comes with it's very own RFID blocking sleeve, and claims that "The RFID chip does not contain any personally identifying information. "


www.michigan.gov...

I would still get my own RFID blocking wallet though if I had one. Like this.

reply to post by DirtyStinkyRabbit


Thanks for the info. I'm getting one for everybody.
I don't carry my card, I keep it w/my passport. However, I know people carrying them (they think they are cool?) so I will get this for those rascals. And yes I have both because at the time I thought it strange what the cruise cooridnator said and of course I remembered ATS!
Thanks so much for that RFiD wallet idea.

reply to post by Klassified


Deception at it's finest. It's not forced on us yet, it is offered as an option now. As you can see in my post above to bekod. But if it restricts travel most people will opt for it. I myself don't need it so I will hold out as long as I can.

After reading this thread there are a few things that were discussed that I feel should be put into perspective. These links may not be in the order they were presented (sorry) but important to understanding the implications of this "Project"

For those who brought up boarders:

North American Union
www.youtube.com...

The Amero
www.youtube.com...

The Opening
www.youtube.com...

For those who would like to put it in the microwave:

Non-Metallic Nanotechnology
www.cherry.gatech.edu...

Powered by Microwaves
www.nature.com...


For those who think they haven't started Retina scans= D.M.V. eyesight tests?

For All to understand the true reach of the Federal system:

Federal Jurisdiction (This is why they need the States Permission)
home.hiwaay.net...
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...

For those who want out, research "Strawman"(It was brought up by at least two posters in this thread already). This topic has brought up a lot of negative "It doesn't work" however, anytime you see something put out by the Government or Police forces on the subject they never say it isn't legal or Lawful. They only group the people to be dangerous ie; Two officers were killed by two sovereigns and the national police service put out a video telling police officers that ALL Sovereigns are dangerous yet do not deny it to be legal and Lawful. (gee, I wonder why)

www.youtube.com...

Use of "Law of the Land" miss used out of ignorance. Not once stated as Illegal or Un-Lawful. Used as Misinformation in order to hide the truth and to regain ASSUMED AUTHORITY.
www.youtube.com...

We must ALL TRULY UNDERSTAND OUR TRUE RIGHTS under the Constitution(Law of the Land) versus Statute Law(Law of the Water)(which is how they falsely and secretly control the people) However, under the Constitutional Law(Law of the Land) you can not cause harm to another or their property. Therefore these people went against the Constitution in what they did in killing the officers However, We do, under the constitution, have the right of Insurrection and Militia. Just be careful how you use it.

Originally posted by IPILYA

For those who think they haven't started Retina scans= D.M.V. eyesight tests?

Interesting idea, do you have any more info on that or is it speculation?

reply to post by undiscoveredsoul
when you have the time read this www.dhs.gov... i hope that takes the mystery out of it.

reply to post by DirtyStinkyRabbit


Speculation on this part. I simply put it to show just how easy it would be to take without consent due to the fact that we must all take an eye test when applying for a D.L. This is why I put a question mark. I will do some checking to see if there are any reported accounts of this being done, and get back to you if I find something.

reply to post by Zezima


It hasn't even been decided yet as to whether or not its gonna happen. 25 states have filed against it and a whole ton others have filed for and extension on it. May 2011 is the deadline to file for a new extension. And those chips and all that aren't even gonna happen prolly. Those were the points that caused alot of states to opt out.
In the end all it will be is a 16 security feature federalized ID. No chip, no profile. Just a card with info that is federalized. IF it even happens.

I don't believe that 300 million will be needed in 90 days.Just that in 90 days the bill takes effect and then a certain amount of time will be allocated to get one.Also I wonder how much the government will make in dollars from this?

reply to post by Klassified


I abhore this unconstitutional assault on liberty, however, to clarify, I read this when it 1st came out. You WILL NOT be carrying a GPS track chip. It will contain a chip with properties similiar to paypass. It is a proximity chip much like those that have been in the left eye of the pres on $20 dollar US bill for the last 10 years. See for yourself. Pop a $20 in the microwave for up to 2 minutes and watch for the pink flash. RFID chip. You wondered how they catch bales of money on the interstate.
They will threaten, intimidate and harass in an attempt to force compliance with this law and others like it. States left and right are declaring 10th amendment protection to stop this from proceding. They need your support and voices.