TPTB already took care of Loughner and replaced him with a duplicate. , page 9

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Doomzilla
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So how come he has not said ONE WORD to justify/explain his actions ?
How come he said not guilty ?

His lawyer told him to be silent and plead not guilty ?
If hes crazy and obssesive and opionated and an extremist why would he listen to his lawyer ?
You cant have it both ways hes either mad or not hes either a political extremist or not .

Il remind you that you have ZERO evidence to prove Loughner did this .
When we have this evidence feel free to preach then

Since there are only 2 people that can answer any of those questions, Loughner and his lawyer, and i dont think any of the posters in this thread are them, those questions are impossible to answer. If the MSM puts out that they said something, according to alot of the posts, it wont be believed anyway since its MSM. If he gets on camera and answers all those questions, will you believe him? No because you think he has been replaced. So just how will you be able to get answers to those questions? Seems you wont/cant.

Along your own lines of supposed reasoning, you have zero evidence that he DIDNT do it so why cant any poster say what they want? Oh thats right, they can. Until you become a mod, quit trying to moderate this thread. And btw, the ridicule started with your cussing and name calling.

Evanzsayz

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 06:06 PM

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Not everything is a conspiracy!!!! It's known for peoples eyes to change color in certain light look how on the 2nd pic the light is beaming off his head

Doomzilla

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 06:37 PM

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reply to post by S1LV3R4D0

This is Not my thread bro , I never said he has a double been replaced etc .
This -------
www.abovetopsecret.com:80...
is my thread and your welcome to participate , You can see for your self my opinions .
Peace .

SeventhSeal

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 06:51 PM

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Goddamnit, this is not a conspiracy. There is no conspiracy within the photos. Get over it.

BuzzCory

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 07:26 PM

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Ahhh, good, they've successfully replaced Loughner with a double. Now the plan can proceed without a hitch.
The double can be tried, convicted, & be executed... uh, no.
Okay, life without parole. No....
I got it, I got it, he'll stand trial & get life but be paroled after serving about 25 years. Oh, nuts, wait a minute...
Oh, okay, he'll get tried & found not guilty. Dammit, not gonna happen!

Ohhh, of course! Applying Occam's Razor, I think it's most likely that they'll hang the double in his cell & claim he committed suicide, just like they did with the real Loughner!

Just goes to show, apply a little bit of logic, & sometimes you can find out what's really going on.
< /sarcasm >

barefootsoldier

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 07:38 PM

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Ok so the most far fetched theory I can come up with is that like the film "the island" TPTB have the ability to clone and grow humans. They chose someone who was standing out as a bit of a crackpot rambler on sites like this and made an identical copy of him to carry out their sordid deeds. The cloning process is not 100% accurate and as there are slight anomilies like the earlobes etc.....just a bit of fun but who knows really...the mug shots ARE very odd and its the best I can come up with at this late hour!

BuzzCory

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by pacofunk64
Wow...this site loses creditability each and every day. Just when I thought it couldnt get any worse...this thread is made. C'mon people...think before we start a new thread and ask yourself if it makes sense. Sure there are a lot that really don't but this one is just plain lack of common sense.

Originally posted by derst1988Im sorry, as much as i disagree with this thread, the OP has the right to post it. Human rights, and ill be damned if someone is not allowed his free speech.

And as long as they're done civilly, shouldn't that thought also include those replies you don't like? pacofunk64 was merely expressing his opinion, just like the OP.

edit on 2/24/11 by BuzzCory because: Edited to remove grammatical awkwardness, why so easy to see it only after posting?

edit on 2/24/11 by BuzzCory because: Same reason; same rhetorical question.

vertedtwylight

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:24 PM

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Really? Its quite obvious to me, that he is just under different lighting. To ... find a "duplicate" is absolutely impossible and I hope people wont go as far as... "THEY MADE A CLONE OF HIM!" Same color eyes, same shaped face, same ears, same crooked nose. COMEE OOOONNN

And if they would make a clone... wouldn't you freakin think that it would be identical?

edit on 24-2-2011 by vertedtwylight because: Left out something

pshea38

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:25 PM

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post by filosophia

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First of all let me say that i believe that the tuscan shootings are another psychological operation (psyop), designed to stir up fear and used as a pretext to further remove constitutional entitlements from the American people. Moreover, i question the real life existences of both victims and perpetrator alike, believing all to be computer generated characters with purposefully invented, fictional histories.

Proof of the Tuscan fakery can be found HERE.

I believe that the original Jared Loughner mugshot released is a computer generated blending of different elements of both memorial photographs of 9/11 victim Andrew Brunn, who himself (like the majority of 9/11 victims) is a computer generated identity. This can be verified by regarding the obvious errors in his memorial photographs. In the Voices of september photograph observe the mis-alignment of his mouth, midway along the upper lip, the obvious fake bridge of his glasses along with the distorted left monacle and rim, and the obvious signs of tampering in and around his left ear. In the CNN photograph, observe the anomalous strip running down the centre of his nose and also regard the distortions around the inside of his left eye, which do not match up with his left eye in the voices of september photograph. Also observe the indentation in his skull around his left ear. You may need to zoom in for a clearer view.

A thread comparing the similarities between the Loughner mugshot and Andrew Brunn's memorial photographs can be found HERE.

I believe that these new set of mugshots are a computer generated refinement of the original mugshot and have now been released to purposefully lessen the degree of similarity observed between the Loughner persona as originally seen, and the Andrew Brunn persona as seen in both memorial photographs. Obviously allowing these similarities to remain would lead to too many difficult questions. Hence the debate whether it is the same Jared Loughner in both mugshot releases.
Take it as you will.

9Cib27

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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I just want to say for my own opinion

I believe that the two pictures are of different men.

I base this opinion on the creases of the cheeks of each person. Which take time to develop and won't disappear.

This is very strange and only makes all the details of this case even stranger.

Bones_

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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All right, I want everyone to take this seriously, I've been joing about this for a while. But, a few weeks ago on totallylookslike.com I saw a photo of Jared L and Glenn Beck.
The similiarities were unbelievable, and of course I got a great laugh out of it.
But the fact he was replaced with a double.... now this is getting unreal.
I have no idea how to embed photos but I have it saved on my computer.

I really don't mean to sound like a wack-job but for while it was a joke and now I'm starting to believe my sarcasm

AwakeinNM

posted on Feb, 24 2011 @ 09:45 PM
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I can't even believe I am going to post a response, but I just have to say that this thread and all the people jumping on board with the OP's assertion is one of the things that is wrong with ATS. Are you kidding me, really? You people watch too much TV.

CleverNameHere

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by Doomzilla
reply to post by CleverNameHere

THIS IS WHAT HE WANTED. HE KNEW HE WAS EITHER GOING TO GET CAUGHT, OR DIE. HE WANTED PEOPLE TO REMEMBER HIM, AND OBSESS OVER HIM, AND TRY TO THINK THE WAY HE DID.

So how come he has not said ONE WORD to justify/explain his actions ?
How come he said not guilty ?

His lawyer told him to be silent and plead not guilty ?
If hes crazy and obssesive and opionated and an extremist why would he listen to his lawyer ?
You cant have it both ways hes either mad or not hes either a political extremist or not .

Il remind you that you have ZERO evidence to prove Loughner did this .
When we have this evidence feel free to preach then

Why would an insane person, who KNOWS that they will not be trusted no matter what they have to say, explain his actions to someone who will call him insane?

These people only talk honestly with others like themselves. I know this for a fact; I have been to mental institutions. I am a legal, registered schizophrenic.

I know what the voices tell you to do. I know what they say will happen to you if you tell anyone that you hear these voices. It is all a lie, but some of us do become subject to the lies, be it momentary or temporary.

His lawyer told him to be silent and plead not guilty because THE LAWYER KNOWS WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG AND THAT THE ONLY WAY TO WIN THE CASE WAS TO HOLD IT OFF AS LONG AS POSSBLE. Most lawyers will tell you to be silent and tell you not to say anything at all, because you may incriminate yourself.

'If hes crazy and obsessive and opinionated and an extremist,' then why would he plead guilty? Mentally insane people's worst fear is to get caught in their own lie of a world. When you are opinionated, you will agree with someone if their opinion is the same as his own; his lawyer tells him to plead not guilty, so he pleads not guilty. Why would he plead guilty just to prove something to his lawyer?

As for the extremist comment, why would anyone expect and extremist to stick to their "morals" or their "logic?" They're called extremists because they are unpredictable.

It can be both ways; insanity gives you some warped, unexpected ways of thinking.

I can guarantee that any move of his in this metaphorical game of "chess" is going to be well thought out.

He will rot in prison, or he will strike again.

People change, but they do not change that drastically, especially after puberty.

Using your own logic, I hope you can prove me wrong for anything I've stated. I detest the world we live in, along with the humans that populate it. We all have our animalistic instincts.

And thank you, S1LV3R4D0. I couldn't have typed it better myself.

EdWard54

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 01:13 AM
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hi to all

did any thread on the forum discuss WHY this crime occurred

i did not intend to go off topic or cause thread drift just wondering what the motive for this incident really was irregardless of who did it...

pshea38

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Bones_
reply to post by filosophia

All right, I want everyone to take this seriously, I've been joing about this for a while. But, a few weeks ago on totallylookslike.com I saw a photo of Jared L and Glenn Beck.
The similiarities were unbelievable, and of course I got a great laugh out of it.
But the fact he was replaced with a double.... now this is getting unreal.
I have no idea how to embed photos but I have it saved on my computer.

I really don't mean to sound like a wack-job but for while it was a joke and now I'm starting to believe my sarcasm

Hmmm.. right ear, nose, head shape. Peculiar. It has been asserted that some hollywood actor donor photographs have been used and morphed into some 9/11 fake victim identities.

9/11 victim Richard Galinas

hollywood actor Patrick Swayze

9/11 victim Vincenzo Gallucci

hollywood actor Lou Ferrigno

Are ficticious characters being generated from some celebrity donor photographs?

edit on 25-2-2011 by pshea38 because: beck picture didnt come up

Fedge

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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I have to say when i see so many people replying stuff like "come onnnnn you re joking right?", it tickles my attention.

So i examined both pictures just using Paint and his amazing zoom option
(amazed by my circling skills you shall be
).

First the photo that i will call "normal" , meaning not altered, please pay attention to the circled zones.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d4dde1216273.jpg[/atsimg]

Now look at the second one :

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c0e9882b29ef.jpg[/atsimg]

I circles 2 zones close to his right eye where you can see a "flat line".
The mouth extremities are, in my opinion, the easiest alteration you can find in the pic.
Again you find two flat zones. I dont think its possible to smile although both of your mouth extremities are flat.
I would be glad to see a picture of such a thing.

You can also guess that the green sweatshirt has been erased from the pic to make it looks like its not the same shot, although the white shirt has the same outlines as the one under the green sweat.

So in my opinion the second picture is an altered version of the first, poorly done if i may add.
Darkened and bulged to make him look evil, add to this the mouth extremities that make him look like batman's joker.

I m dazed to see that it took 9 pages for someone to make this simple analysis.
I thought that was the purpose of ATS.

What do you think ?

edit : Both may be altered, but i can only affirm this for the second one.

edit on 25-2-2011 by Fedge because: (no reason given)

Wetpaint72

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Is there any way to run the new and old photos through some kind of on line image scan. I think there is a site that will look for images that match for you. Anyone know of anything like this?

I think it's called tineye. But I am having trouble.
edit on 25-2-2011 by Wetpaint72 because: Found it

Getsmart

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by pshea38

Are ficticious characters being generated from some celebrity donor photographs?

Hi Pshea,

That is a very interesting proposition and I think that there is a good possibility that such images are used to broaden the impact of propaganda pictures. Hollywood or TV celebrities are faces which have already registered an impression on our subconscious mind, possibly even with a connection to a given message or type of material used to preconditioning us, and their faces morphed and used in order to make us associate that embedded data with a newly spun terror scenario.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

Getsmart

Regenmacher

posted on Feb, 25 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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LOL, the comparisons made me chuckle. Thanks for the laughs.

gemdog

posted on Feb, 26 2011 @ 04:18 PM
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why does this sound so far-fetched? from the beginning, this whole event/story seemed "off." so many of these shooters have some fringe relation to our military, or sketchy backgrounds, or easily contrived backgrounds. even these photos, at a glance, seem odd. anyone could briefly compare these pics and see even the simplest red flags- for example, look at the ears. totally different! so his ears morphed while he was in jail? and yes its easy to invent people from other photos. someone forgot to change out the "Glenn Beck ear option" is all. dis-info agents (?) jumped all over this thread. "not everything is a conspiracy'- true, but in this case, i think it is.