Rise of the Anti-Christ

Originally posted by Noncompatible

Originally posted by IAMIAM
Christ is my Master and that is where I base my doctrine.

How incredibly silly. No one is my master. I am ANTI-slavery physical or spiritual.

Guess that makes me an anti-christ *shrug*

Words are dangerous weapons when used carelessly.

Everyone serves something my friend.

With Love,

Your Brother

at the original poster: Jesus taught equality? Calling Jesus God is wrong? Dude, did you even read what Jesus said? Cause I don't think you did. Jesus said no man comes to the Father but through Me. If you are serious about your salvation, Jesus is it. He is fully man and fully God, He's the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Author of our salvation, the warrior King of righteousness, the Saviour of our souls, the Redeemer, the Healer, and my God. Go back and read it again.

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
at the original poster: Jesus taught equality? Calling Jesus God is wrong? Dude, did you even read what Jesus said? Cause I don't think you did. Jesus said no man comes to the Father but through Me. If you are serious about your salvation, Jesus is it. He is fully man and fully God, He's the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the Author of our salvation, the warrior King of righteousness, the Saviour of our souls, the Redeemer, the Healer, and my God. Go back and read it again.

Where is Jesus? Where do I go to be saved? Are you him? Describe what he looks like to me.

With Love,

Your Brother

This is all in the bible. It tells me that Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of the Father, and you go to Him to be saved. Don't worry though, He can hear you from where He is. No need to go anywhere.

Heres a good take on it,talk about johnny rotten !

Heh... Just cause they are widely known for their music doesn't mean they have anything good to say about the subject.. I'll pass.

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Maybe God lives in another dimension right next to our skin,infact maybe god passes right through us.
antichrists....en.wikipedia.org...

The words antichrist and antichrists appear four times in the First and Second Epistle of John.[d][e][f][g] The word is not capitalized in most English translations of the Bible, including the original King James Version. 1 John chapter 2 refers to many antichrists present at the time while warning of one Antichrist that is coming.[h] The "many antichrists" belong to the same spirit as that of the one Antichrist.[f][h] John wrote that such antichrists deny "that Jesus is the Christ", "the Father and the Son", and would "not confess Jesus came in the flesh.": a probable reference to the Gnostic claim that Jesus was not human, but only a spirit.

and en.wikipedia.org...

Now when He had spoken these things, while they watched, He was taken up, and a cloud received Him out of their sight. And while they looked steadfastly toward heaven as He went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel, who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven." – Acts 1:9-11

Saying no more as changing any wording of the scripture is a bad omen.Nothing about living through us,as he went so he will return,at least thats what is stated.

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
This is all in the bible. It tells me that Jesus is in heaven at the right hand of the Father, and you go to Him to be saved. Don't worry though, He can hear you from where He is. No need to go anywhere.

You are correct. When you find him, learn his ways, are saved, and keep his commandments, then come back and tell me I am not speaking the truth.

Judge not, love all, be at peace

With Love,

Your Brother

I really don't understand why you think what you think. I mean, the bible is so clear on it. I accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior over a decade ago, and have been living a spirit-filled life. I know God, I know Jesus, and I know you don't know your scripture. I also know that I'm done going in circles with you, so unless you have something else to bring to the table here then I've said all I need to say in this thread.

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
I really don't understand why you think what you think. I mean, the bible is so clear on it. I accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and Savior over a decade ago, and have been living a spirit-filled life. I know God, I know Jesus, and I know you don't know your scripture. I also know that I'm done going in circles with you, so unless you have something else to bring to the table here then I've said all I need to say in this thread.

15If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 22Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

If you LOVE Christ you will keep his commandments. Do I need to remind you of his commandments?

Love God
Love your Neighbor
Judge not, lest ye be Judged.
Bless the meek
Bless the poor in spirit
Love your enemies

Do I need to go on? If you are a follower of Christ, keep his commandments. If you are not willing to keep his commandments, then do not claim to follow Christ.

With Love,

Your Brother

Bring this to the table.en.wikipedia.org...

According to Christian belief, The Last Supper is the final meal that Jesus Christ shared with his Twelve Apostles in Jerusalem before his crucifixion.[

And

According to Paul (1 Corinthians 11:23–26), at that meal Jesus, on the night he was betrayed or "delivered up", gave his disciples bread, saying it was his body, which was broken for them, and gave them wine, saying it was the new covenant in his blood, and told them to do it in his memory. In the Synoptic Gospels, Jesus institutes a new covenant of his blood and body, the wine and bread, at the Passover meal.[3] The Gospel of John recounts, instead of the institution of this new covenant with wine and bread, Jesus' washing of the disciples' feet,[4] and also depicts Jesus as speaking at length in his farewell discourse. In John, the Last Supper takes place on the night before Passover, the night before the Passover lambs were slaughtered.[5]

Clearly we are to eat him until he returns as he went.If eating his flesh was not enough,drink his blood.I believe jesus had a sense of humour and that was his intelligent way of humourizing the human condition to his disciples,knowing his fate ,and has been misrepresented and used for join the club mentality,or you will all burn in hell. .
really it does state as you see him go so shall he return,in the flesh.I leave it with you as

Revelation 22:18–19 18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

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Hello my friend,

I just wanted to let you know that I am not ignoring your posts. I have been reading them, trying to get a feel on what you mean. Yes, Christ's story has been used to create a "club" that you either join or burn in hell. It is far different than the teachings he taught himself.

The Old Testament, I do not pay much attention to. There is much wisdom in the writings, but most of it is historical doctrines of one tribe of Man. The laws contained within represent the laws of that tribe, and the representation of God is not the universal representation that Jesus saw.

The New Testament is where I listen to the word of God. Particularly the teachings of Christ himself. I do not concern myself with what Paul added to it. Paul never knew Christ, and much of what he adds contradicts what Christ taught himself. Why go to the student (the apostles) when you have the lessons of the Master right there?

As far as the Prophecies of John, well why worry about prophecy if you are doing what Christ commanded? Do what Christ commanded, and you will fulfil prophecy. I'd rather be a doer than a watcher, but that is just me.

Anyway, I hope I have read your intent correctly. If not, please clarify where I went astray.

With Love,

Your Brother

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My view is jesus was and still is the most intelligent person that ever lived and the whole testament is exactly that ,a test for mankind where he set the challenge and proper boundaries that old traditions failed to embrace.
Statements like "Whos image is on the coin"...caeser"Then pay what is caesers to caeser,but what is God to god".
Ultimately God is good and as I allways say the greatest trick the devil ever pulled on anyone was to say he never exists,go talk about ,damn god the devil says..great because no one believes there is a evil force,god..oh yeah hes up in the clouds,or at sunday mass.There is the real truth of yeshua and he really brought the devil to surface and revealed his intentions ,the spirit of perdition ,the accuser of the brothers,and suffering.
Yeshua stated it himself ,although you will see me suffer it is only flesh,he goaded the devil spirit in the populace to reveal mans inhumanity to their fellow.
He was and still is Teacher of the age.

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If you LOVE Christ you will keep his commandments. Do I need to remind you of his commandments?

Love God
Love your Neighbor
Judge not, lest ye be Judged.
Bless the meek
Bless the poor in spirit
Love your enemies

Do I need to go on? If you are a follower of Christ, keep his commandments. If you are not willing to keep his commandments, then do not claim to follow Christ.

I do love Christ and keep his commandments, but you're dodging the issue.

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The Old Testament, (...) The laws contained within represent the laws of that tribe, and the representation of God is not the universal representation that Jesus saw.

Bull. You're pulling doctrine out of the air here to fit the new age "Everyone is a god or everyone's god is everyone else's.." You had to drop most of the bible to make that fit. Think about that for a second.

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
Bull. You're pulling doctrine out of the air here to fit the new age "Everyone is a god or everyone's god is everyone else's.." You had to drop most of the bible to make that fit. Think about that for a second.

If you would read Christ's Sermon on the mount, you will see that the Old Testament was dropped by HIM. I am just telling you what was said. Cling to the dusty bones of dead prophets buried in white sepulchres if you must, but you cannot deny Christ's own words. He came to fulfil the Law and the Prophets, and on the cross he said himself, "It is finished".

It's your world my friend, create it how you want to.

With Love,

Your Brother

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My beliefs are this: Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man may come to the Father but through Him. Jesus came and died for our sins so that we were no longer bound by Old Testiment law. It only existed to hold us over until He triumphed over sin and hell and bridged the gap between us and God. If you do not accept him as your personal Lord and Saviour, you will go to hell, and it will be of your own doing. That is in the bible. That is the truth. What you are doing, sir, is cherry-picking to make it fit the model you want it to.

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
My beliefs are this: Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No man may come to the Father but through Him.

What does this mean?

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
Jesus came and died for our sins so that we were no longer bound by Old Testiment law. It only existed to hold us over until He triumphed over sin and hell and bridged the gap between us and God.

Close enough.

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
If you do not accept him as your personal Lord and Saviour, you will go to hell, and it will be of your own doing. That is in the bible. That is the truth.

What does it mean to accept him? Do you know who Christ is? HE is the father and the Son. HE is the Alpha and the Omega. HE is the WORD of God.

You arrogantly think YOU can choose him? You think he waits for YOU to choose him? He hand picks his disciples. THAT is in the Bible. I am showing YOU how to make yourself worthy to be chosen.

KEEP The Commandments!!

Originally posted by RapturedNotBeamed
What you are doing, sir, is cherry-picking to make it fit the model you want it to.

You do not know who I am, nor do I know you.

Read Christ's words.
Keep his commandments.
Look within.

Who are you?

Know Thyself!

With Love,

Your Brother

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I know who the bible tells me Christ is. The whole bible. And it also tells me I must choose him. You call me arrogant because you don't like my attitude, but really I'm just trying to show you where you're wrong so that you'll have a better understanding of it.

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I understand what you are doing my friend. That is why you are arrogant.

You cannot tell me I am wrong. You do NOT have that authority!

All you can do is share your perspective. When you go from sharing to proclaiming your correctness, your righteousness, you are over the line of what you have authority to do.

Christ is within. You are not Christ. You are not his follower because you are not doing what he has commanded of you. You merely wear his name as a cloak to affiliate you with others who are of like mind. None of you are keeping his commandments, but rather doing the opposite of what he commanded.

You claim he IS the way, yet you are afraid to walk in his ways.
You claim he is the truth, yet you are afraid to believe in doing what he said.
You claim he is the life, yet you are afraid to live as he did.

I do not believe that YOU believe what you claim to believe.

I believe it is mere lip service.

With Love,

Your Brother