Rise of the Anti-Christ

Prince William is the one who will rise as Antichrist....he is in the world now! The King who was...but no longer is but shall be again Though I beleive he will use the name King Arthur,May the Lords blessings be with all!

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I find your signature interesting.

reply to post by hawaii50th


At least someone else has figured out the obvious of what IAM has to say. Just as Jesus said in the last days there will come many to decieve and we just must be able ti discern the truth....praise the Lord for His guidance....the Word is the Truth and no one shall take from it or add to it .....period!

reply to post by IAMIAM

What Christ taught was equality. He taught that God was found within. He taught that we are ALL children of God. He taught that heaven is a state which loves and values all as equals. He showed the way to the Kingdom of God by living a life of humility and love. He judged NO MAN. He gave his life for all. He did not consider it beneath him to associate with prostitutes, thieves, and murderers.

Why are you spouting lies on behalf of Christs name?

Jesus did judge..he judged the pharisees, and constantly told others to leave sin behind..and sin no more..

He also taught that some were children of the devil..and needed to redeem themselves.

The only prostitutes and thieves he associated with were those who were repentant of their past.. and perhaps on occasion he ministered to others.

I think you are in serious denial of what the bible really says...and another who chooses to spread misinformation about Christ.

reply to post by IAMIAM


Then at least tell where the Scriptures are so that people not certain may freely go to them and read for themselves what the Lord is saying to them, let them have the free will to choose for themselves what they wish to take and how they wish to take it from the Bible.....not what you tell them it says! As for the Antichrist..there will be one in the end who will rise and attempt to mislead the people..exalting himself above God....and if you know the Bible you know this to be so why mislead people and tell them that the Antichrist lives in us all?

reply to post by IAMIAM

Casting judgements is easy my friend. To love and to forgive, that is the hard road to take. If you take the road of love and forgiveness, then nothing will stand that is evil. To do so, you must not judge, simply love.

I understand love and forgiveness..but there are times we need to make judgement calls in love..

let me ask you..if you see two men who have decided to attack the woman you love..and plan on stealing all her money then killing her..

Do you just smile and NOT judge them.. filling your heart with compassion and forgiving them as they stab your GF before your eyes?

Do you follow Christs teachings?

Do you follow the teaching to lay down your life for another.. ?

Jesus is hanging with them to reveal their sin, bring them to repentance, and to follow God’s word. He told people the truth and preached truth and didn’t care what they thought about him and it was an offence to many of them when he preached. We are to love our enemies, but we certainly shouldn’t hang with those sinning against us or God in an unrepentant way. Loving enemies and hanging with enemies are 2 different things. When Jesus says Love your enemy does NOT mean hang with your enemy. It means feel compassion on your enemy, and pray that they come to Christ. When Jesus associated with sinners, it was for a reason. He was doing it for a purpose, and he had a mission. It wasn’t for entertainment or fun or to participate in their sinful activities. He was there to do God’s will and preach. He preached to everyone he came into contact with. If those rejected His teaching and did not repent of sin, would Jesus still hang out with them? I don’t think so .In fact, Jesus gives very serious warnings to those individuals.

Some even say that “Jesus hung out with adulteress” and they even quote Jesus said , "Neither do I condemn you “but they forget the verse that follows where Jesus says, "Now go, and SIN NO MORE." In other words, "CLEAN UP YOUR ACT QUIT BEING AN ADULTERESS!

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As to the Old Testament.....we must remember...its laws are still binding....Jesus came not to abolish the Law but He came to fulfill it.

reply to post by tracer


The Law and the Prophets which spoke of him, including Moses who said one like him would come and that when he does, to follow what he says.
I don't think any regular church denomination believes that the Law of Moses is still in effect.
There are some Messianics who may think so but they are more quasi-Jew than Christian in my opinion.
Jesus fulfilled the Law by filling it to make it full by dying and being resurrected to officiate over the new covenant which is that Jesus sends us the Holy Spirit from God to write the Law upon our hearts, in place of the outdated form of having a written Law, one that had no power to take your sinfulness away.

Originally posted by tracer
reply to post by hawaii50th

 

At least someone else has figured out the obvious of what IAM has to say. Just as Jesus said in the last days there will come many to decieve and we just must be able ti discern the truth....praise the Lord for His guidance....the Word is the Truth and no one shall take from it or add to it .....period!

Wow, this thread is old, never thought anyone was still carrying on with it.

So how do you discern truth? through prayer and the Word. But first, you must have a sincere and humbled heart and have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Savior.

And, your so very right that many will come to deceive and lead astray. They preach a gospel of their own kind, they water down the Word for their own pleasures and to woo others into error. This is a very dangerous road to travel on.
The Word of God became flesh so that all may have the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
Any other gospel that is opposite to, added to, or taken away from the Word of God is a lie.
Also, anyone that takes God's name for himself makes them very questionable of their intent, and my discernment of this says to me that there are lies in the intent.
Never forget that, the devil come in many forms, he even comes as an angel of light.
Pray to God for wisdom to discern between the lies and the truth and I know that He will show you.

Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

What Christ taught was equality. He taught that God was found within. He taught that we are ALL children of God. He taught that heaven is a state which loves and values all as equals. He showed the way to the Kingdom of God by living a life of humility and love. He judged NO MAN. He gave his life for all. He did not consider it beneath him to associate with prostitutes, thieves, and murderers.

Why are you spouting lies on behalf of Christs name?

Where have I lied?

Originally posted by gabby2011
Jesus did judge..he judged the pharisees, and constantly told others to leave sin behind..and sin no more..

Then leave sin behind. Sin no more. Why do YOU keep bringing up sin if you were told to leave it behind?

. 15Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.

Ah, but Christ must have just been kidding when he said the above huh?

Originally posted by gabby2011
He also taught that some were children of the devil..and needed to redeem themselves.

See above.

Originally posted by gabby2011
The only prostitutes and thieves he associated with were those who were repentant of their past.. and perhaps on occasion he ministered to others.

15And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him. 16And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners? 17When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

No where does he mention that he only associated with repentant sinners. If you have repented, you have no need of the physician.

Originally posted by gabby2011
I think you are in serious denial of what the bible really says...and another who chooses to spread misinformation about Christ.

Well now that I know what you think...

I think you do not think before you post.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by tracer
why mislead people and tell them that the Antichrist lives in us all?

Truth is Truth.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by tracer
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

As to the Old Testament.....we must remember...its laws are still binding....Jesus came not to abolish the Law but He came to fulfill it.

If you follow Christ's ONE commandment, to love one another, you will fulfill all the other Laws spoken of by Moses.

With Love,

Your Brother

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Where have I lied?

by saying that Jesus judged no man..when in fact it is clear that in the bible he judged others and their hypocrisy..and even warned about it to others..

"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your alms may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you. And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:1-6 RSV)

' So, for the sake of your tradition, you have made void the word of God. You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: 'This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.'"

Well now that I know what you think... I think you do not think before you post.

yes..I would agree with that at times.. but in this case.. it seems like you are painting a dangerous picture of accepting all practices and people..and that merely "loving" others is the only thing required.

I understand that loving others as important.. but are you loving them if you seem to condone certain actions they have, and you do not point out to them with love that it is not right. Do you go up to someone you see robbing the purse from a poor helpless woman..and say.."I love you brother"..and walk away?

Tell me ..do you believe there is a hell?

Originally posted by gabby2011

yes..I would agree with that at times.. but in this case.. it seems like you are painting a dangerous picture of accepting all practices and people..and that merely "loving" others is the only thing required.

I understand that loving others as important.. but are you loving them if you seem to condone certain actions they have, and you do not point out to them with love that it is not right. Do you go up to someone you see robbing the purse from a poor helpless woman..and say.."I love you brother"..and walk away?

Tell me ..do you believe there is a hell?

Do I believe in hell?

I do not concern myself with hell any longer my friend. I have walked through it and made it to the other side.

I came to announce God's Kingdom of Heaven, and to welcome all into it. Hell is not my concern any more.

I have neither the time nor inclination to rehash your questions for the umpteenth time. Your questions were asked and answered already in my time here at ATS. If you want to know my reply, you can find it.

I am not here to convince anyone of anything. Those who wish to point their fingers in self righteousness will get the world they so desire, with many fingers pointing back at them for a change.

"but are you loving them if you seem to condone certain actions they have,"

Who made you the one righteous enough to tell anyone what actions to take? Who in hell are you to judge?

Maybe if you loved them you would discover what really drives people to do things we would not want done to ourselves. Once found, then you can heal that drive and they will not do what they would not want done to them again.

It is not our place to NOT condone someone's action. May you get the tyrant you feel you need.

With Love,

Your Brother

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Who made you the one righteous enough to tell anyone what actions to take? Who in hell are you to judge?

excuse me..you were the one who started this thread telling everyone in your "righteous " way that the only thing they needed to do to gain heaven was love everyone..

Now you are JUDGING me because I challenged those thoughts in the sense of what "loving' really means.?

Maybe if you loved them you would discover what really drives people to do things we would not want done to ourselves. Once found, then you can heal that drive and they will not do what they would not want done to them again.

yes.. That's right.. you would simply let the robbery take place ..and walk after the robber and say.."why did you do that?".. "Can I offer you a ride to the nearest detox center so you can overcome your crack addiction?"
But then again ..we shouldn't judge crack addiction.. we should just love.

It is not our place to NOT condone someone's action. May you get the tyrant you feel you need.

what loving words .. and also very hypocritical.. because they show judgment of me and what you feel I need..in a most unloving way.

Originally posted by gabby2011
what loving words .. and also very hypocritical.. because they show judgment of me and what you feel I need..in a most unloving way.

Of course it shows judgement of you. That is what you asked for. I meant it with more love than you could fathom.

Can't you feel the love in my judgement?


No?


Neither can anyone else.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM

Of course it shows judgement of you. That is what you asked for. I meant it with more love than you could fathom. Can't you feel the love in my judgement? No? Neither can anyone else. With Love, Your Brother

Seems like I struck a nerve..so..in other words..its ok to judge..if somebody asks for it?

and how do you make the "judgement" call on if someone is asking for it?

when your ego gets bruised? When you are confronted with common sense and words from the mouth of Jesus that may have offended you?

carry on with all that unfathomable loving judgement that you judge to be ok..when it is called for..

You contradict yourself .. and have become very aggressive..and judgmental all over a silly thread and your pride..and now want to make the excuse that I asked for it.

well to me someone who is robbing an old woman has asked for my judgement on that action..(not his soul) ..and I have the right to intervene..

Originally posted by gabby2011

Seems like I struck a nerve..so..in other words..its ok to judge..if somebody asks for it?

and how do you make the "judgement" call on if someone is asking for it?

I judge no one my friend. These are merely words on a screen, the only method that you and I can have this discussion. The words have no emotional definition to me. I simply use them as a tool to convey my meaning.

You aren't the first and you won't be the last.

You judge others and you believe you are correct in doing so. That being the case, you must agree that I have the same right to judge you. You are no better than me right?

So, to illustrate this lesson, yes, there was judgement in my words. You did not like it. It certainly didn't make you feel loved. And, the judgement did nothing to illustrate my point because your feelings are now in the way of hearing what I am trying to say.

The judgement above was merely a lesson. I do not actually judge you one way or the other. Do what you want.

However, if you judge, you will be judged by others.

I did not make the rules. I only tell you how they work. I won't judge you. The world will though. The rest of the world is not me.

Originally posted by gabby2011
when your ego gets bruised? When you are confronted with common sense and words from the mouth of Jesus that may have offended you?

I do not have an ego that controls me my friend. I merely reflect back the ego that comes before me. If you do not like it, change the ego that comes here asking me my opinions on things.

Originally posted by gabby2011
carry on with all that unfathomable loving judgement that you judge to be ok..when it is called for..

You contradict yourself .. and have become very aggressive..and judgmental all over a silly thread and your pride..and now want to make the excuse that I asked for it.

well to me someone who is robbing an old woman has asked for my judgement on that action..(not his soul) ..and I have the right to intervene..

You asked for my opinion. I know you cannot understand my opinion unless it is experienced for yourself.

So, I judged you within the context of this lesson.

You did not like it.

Do not do it to others then.

End of lesson.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM

However, if you judge, you will be judged by others.

hmmm..so you go from..jesus did not judge..and no one should judge..to.. if you judge you can be judged back..

seems like a bit of a dance around what you really meant with the op.. don't judge ..unless you judge the other as judgmental..than it is ok..

seems to be a pretty lame excuse..on why it is ok to judge..considering you said ..no one should judge.

You judge others and you believe you are correct in doing so. That being the case, you must agree that I have the same right to judge you.

yes..you absolutely have the right to judge me if you want.. doesn't mean your judgements are correct.. ..but then again it might help if you had not have said.. none of us should judge.. to start with.

The judgement above was merely a lesson. I do not actually judge you one way or the other. Do what you want. However, if you judge, you will be judged by others.

A lesson?.. so you took it upon yourself to make a judgment that I needed a lesson in judging..based on what? I think you do judge .. and have..which is all part of life,and I begrudge you not for it.. but be honest!!

As far as the "However, if you judge, you will be judged by others." comment.. guess what.. I could never judge a soul actions and words my whole life..and I still would be judged by others. Judged for not speaking up for and protecting my child from abuse.. judged for NOT reporting a murder.. that I clearly should have made a judgement call on.

There is a huge list of judgements that would come down on me.. for not making correct judgements at the correct times...and I could very well see many of those judgements being valid.

Also.. I could live a life never make a judgement call on someones character or motivation.. and I would still be judged by others.. so your statement is false.

Anyhow..my point is.. we all need to judge at some point.. not the soul ..but the actions.. because if this world had no judgement or penalty for wrong doing.. we would be worse off than we already are.

(Oh ..by the way..nice try on the "I was trying to teach you a lesson" to get out of taking responsibility for your words)

reply to post by IAMIAM

So, I judged you within the context of this lesson. You did not like it. Do not do it to others then.

There you go again with false judgements..why do you do that?

Who said I didn't like it.. it only proved what a hypocrite you can be...and why do you tell me not to do it to others.. ?

I will make my judgements based on what I think is worthy to be judged..

I think it is worthy to say your judgement of what Christs words mean are not in total alliance with Christs will.