All the things you didn't want to know...in your food, in your drinks, in your bathroom, and in you

This post was inspired by another thread on Aspartame Poisoning.


Did you know that.......

1.) "Over 3,038 health industry professionals, including one Nobel prize winner in medicine (Arvid Carlsson), doctors, dentists, scientists and researchers from a variety of disciplines are calling for an end to water fluoridation in an online petition to Congress. The petition signers express concern for vulnerable groups like "small children, above average water drinkers, diabetics, and people with poor kidney function," who they believe may already be overdosing on fluoride. Another concern that the petition signers share is, "The admission by federal agencies, in response to questions from a Congressional subcommittee in 1999-2000, that the industrial grade waste products used to fluoridate over 90% of America's drinking water supplies (fluorosilicate compounds) have never been subjected to toxicological testing nor received FDA approval for human ingestion."

Fluoride has been recognized in almost every other civilized country as a poison and as ethically questionable since the dosage cannot be controlled at all times and the approval of every person cannot be achieved. Why would anyone agree to ingest something that is a chemical bi-product of producing fertilizers and aluminum. Even the products like toothpaste with fluoride in them have warning labels not to ingest too much or if you do to contact Poison Control.....also a side note to all of this is that this product accumulates in your system especially if you are overweight, fat cells hold on to toxins more readily than others, (if you're thin don't think you're necessarily safe though) and since this is the case if it is toxic to your system and can cause neurological effects at higher doses and cancer at higher doses it is not good to use. It has only been out since the 1940s there haven't been any multi-generation studies done on this product yet because it has only been around for one generation and perhaps the very beginning of another.

2.) Sodium Lauryl and Laureth Sulfate are in many household products today including toothpaste, shampoos, and soaps. This product is used to degrease warehouse floors in it's strongest form. Why would you agree to put this product on to your body and the top of your head NEAR YOUR BRAIN!!!! for all of your life, this product (and most non organic chemicals are accumulative) is accumulative.

3.) Aluminum is in deodorant and has been studied and is believed to be linked to an increase in breast cancer and cancers of the lymph nodes since some major lymph drainage areas lie in and/or around the axillary areas. Once again ACCUMULATIVE!!!!!!!

4.) Artificial sweeteners including but not limited too......Aspartame, Sucralose, Phenylalanine, also known as Splenda, Nutrisweet, Sweet n Low, all diet drinks, almost all gum, anything that says sugar free, or light on it generally uses these products. Almost all of them are known to cause cancer in lab rats and have some history and traceable side effects including but not limited to neurological effects such as seizures, inability to sleep, and even death.
Also it's ACCUMULATIVE in your system especially if used heavily as in if you drink more than 1 soda per day and by 1 I mean 1 serving not 1 62 oz. drink LOL

Case in point......look at cancer rates since Reagan's day and the "War on cancer" was waged.....the rates have not gone down they have gone up....modern medicine and big pharma and agriculture have given us lower instances of debilitating diseases and given us back higher instances of obesity, heart disease, diabetes, faster sexual development for children due to hormones in meat, and surprise surprise higher cancer rates.........

Ok so look at everything, the big picture. Add up the water, the food, your bathroom products, your cleaners. What are you ingesting on a daily basis, putting on your skin on a daily basis, etc........When you add it all together that is where the problem lies, not in one single thing, everyone tries to minimize these arguments and say oh well the dosage of these potentially toxic agents is so low.....etc......however mix one toxic substance with another, and another, and another, and another over 20 years and you get lots of pain, debilitating illness, and looking your age, and perhaps many surgeries and medications along the way......so the system is perpetuating itself by keeping you sick and making money off of you even when you're dying......

Go organic, or atleast local farmer's market and buy some veggie wash from the natural or organic section of your local Kroger or Whole Foods Store, or Health Food Store. If you can't afford organic go natural that's better than nothing....grow a small garden....or if you rent like me buy a small planter and plant some tomatoes, and fresh herbs you can season with.....it's the little things that count. Start making some changes and go back to our pre-WWII roots of sugar and salt in our food being a luxury like it should be instead of being crammed into everything and fresh foods instead of conveniently packaged processed foods. I'm just saying....and I'm trying to help.........

P.S. Don't make the argument that you're going to die of something some day anyway so you might as well die happy eating your junk....people that say that usually haven't had any ill effects from any of the products I've mentioned and are therefore uneducated as to what life is like when it's threatened or changed in a negative way by a food, drink, bathroom, or cleaning product that could have been eliminated long ago. Also feel free to add any products you know of that could be harmful to you or the environment.

All of you have fun with the discussion I may put my two cents in if I see some interesting chatter.....

Get the truth out there. I haven't had Aluminum Zirconium in my deodorants for 10 years now. You have to look a little harder but they do have deodorants without it. All anti-persperants have the Aluminum. I'm trying my best to stay away from Flouride but since it's in the water it's in most of everything cooked with that water.

I'm having better luck with the Aspertame and other unnatural sweetners. I even have my kids aware of the dangers of it. My three year old can say Aspertame better than I can. After watching the 60 minute video was all I needed to stop using it.

IF I COULD STAR AND FLAG THIS A MILLION TIMES I WOULD!!! it just blows my mind how much people don't care about there health anymore! i have debated this very subject so many times in the past week on this board that i am starting to wonder how people are not educated in this subject. I find this subject more important then anything else on this board right now. As it is alarming how little people understand about nutrition, and also quite frankly horrifying that people care so little about them selfs that they can not make a few life style changes. I'm sure this thread will be skimmed through quick and dismissed. after all it's not about chasing down why sites are crashing over publicity stunts.

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Something like I posted on a recent vitamin thread:
Pick up and read the lable on your next box of cerial or just about any processed food and see how many vitamins and minerals have been added. Along with your daily suppliments people have little idea of how much of these chemicals they are ingesting. Where do the companies get these additives and why do they put over 100% of your daily need for them in foods and drinks?
It's cronic exposure we need to watch for. (No pun intendid.)
Spike

S&F
As this is an issue that effects all who have fluoridated water and is hard to combat without a huge monetary investment.
At least the problem is in the spotlight and not just another "Crazy conspiracy theory" anymore, we now know it is real.

S+F, this is something I feel very, very strongly about.

Even if you don't end up becoming very ill by shoving all this crap into your system, it's still going to alter your mental and physical state in some kind of negative way, be that through depression, anxiety issues or, as I see in many children these days, hyperactivity issues and ADHD.

I refuse to eat any processed foods and I don't add any sugar or salt to my cooking. I was a bit naughty over Christmas but it soon caught up with me when I noticed my anxiety disorder starting to creep back and affect me again.

Why aren't more people bothered by this?!

Don't forget the carcinogens we slaver all over our bodies before we go out and bake in the sun! The incidences of skin cancer are cummulative and correlative to sunscreen use.
There are many alternatives out there for all these products. I found that natural soaps do not react to the lime in the water as readily as commercial soap, as in I don't have a white crust on my shower anymore. I imagine all that gets on your skin too. Your skin is your largest, most exposed body organ and to lather it down in chamicals everyday seems absurd. Alot of people are of the misconception that your skin will not absorb these chemicals, but it does. Think Nicorette patch, morphine patch, birth control patch. Right into the bloodstream baby.
Pesticides and incesticides will permeate your fruit and vegetables in much the same way, like rinsing them under water is gonna do anything. Unfortunately I am not in a position to buy all organic food but I am very selesctive at the supermarket. I have been stocking up on cheap food for a SHTF scenario but we won't touch it unless absolutely neccesary. I cook most all of my families food from scratch, I even make my own bread and Jerky.
We are bombarded by industrial chemicals ALL THE TIME. Fire retardents in our clothes and upholstery, chemicals added to our food and household cleaning products, pills,pills,pills consumed and then urinated into the water supply. I think it would be in our best interest to limit them in things that we can control, like food and soap. Sadly, there is only so much you can do without taking some kind of social action. Getting the word out there will definately cut into their profit margin though!

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Everyone has to eat, and we all die. What are people supposed to do, the ptb know this, and they will continue this sort of thing.

It's a real mess humanity has got it self into. People have to be more informed consumers and sensitive to the well being of everyone as well as take agriculture back into their own hands. Even if you live in an apartment building you can grow some things indoors and put a planter on a balcony or outside a window. It may seem like an insignificant act, but its power increases with the more people who take action. Till up some of the wonderful unused lawn, my suburbanite friend, and plant that garden your Grandmother always said you should have. The more people shift the locus of power away from unaccountable profit oriented corporate agrobusiness and into their own hands, the less they need to worry about the toxic realities of the industrialized food system.
I've read articles on sucralose being detected in water systems and being in high enough concentration to mess with their hormones! Yikes!

Here's an abstract from an article I have access to that talks about detection of sucralose in aquatic systems:

The first concentration data for the artificial sweetener sucralose (Splenda®) is presented for North American coastal and open ocean waters. Large volume water samples were collected and pre-concentrated using solid phase extraction followed by GC/MS analysis. The concentration of sucralose varied over several orders of magnitude in these environmental samples with the greatest abundance in a waste water treatment plant effluent (300 nM). The concentration decreased in receiving waters of the Cape Fear River Estuary, NC (CFRE) where surface water concentrations at the mouth of the estuary were 0.94 nM. Sucralose was also detected in the oligotrophic waters of the Gulf Stream (33 28.6 N −76 48.2 W) where it ranged in concentration from below detection limit to 0.17 nM. In the Northern and Middle Florida Keys values were similar to the CFRE with concentrations of 0.37 nM and 0.99 nM, respectively. The data presented here suggest the persistence and widespread distribution of sucralose in natural aquatic matrices with subsequent incorporation into a major oceanographic current, the Gulf Stream, where global distribution may take place.

Well I guess it's a good thing I'm already aware of all of these concerns and don't use any of these at all!!

This subject of fluoride is one of the most successful and damaging
brainwashing programs to date.
It's absolutely crazy that it has gone on for this long and
continues to be something we have to fight.
The brainwashing worked and as most brainwashing goes -proves shockingly difficult to undo.
It's Astounding, despicable and pure evil.

You named about 1% of the total crap we usually consume that's horrible for us.

You left out pesticides on fruit and veggies(40 or so of those; mainly mutagens and/ or gender benders), shampoos(our skin can eat too you know), beauty products (so so many), fast food chemical additives, plastic seepage (gender benders mainly), smog, air fresheners, stuff other posters have said, over the counter painkillers, secondary detergent skin exposure, secondary dish washing liquids, a pluthera of sweeteners, Spray coating, fabric softeners, cleaning products... I probably left out a ton of stuff.

I have a good Reverse Osmosis filter system that removes florid from my water . Actually have my water down to 4 ppm from the 250 ppm that the city provides .

One question I do have , what's the best way to wash your food ? For some reason I don't think just rinsing under water does the trick ?

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I know this is hard to believe but reverse osmosis water is not good for you, it's not bad for you it's just not good for you either. Essentially reverse osmosis water is "dead" it has no vitamins or minerals in it like water should. The best water for you is actually water from say a REAL mountain spring fed stream or something like that or water run through a Berkey water system.

Originally posted by sliceNodice
You named about 1% of the total crap we usually consume that's horrible for us.

You left out pesticides on fruit and veggies(40 or so of those; mainly mutagens and/ or gender benders), shampoos(our skin can eat too you know), beauty products (so so many), fast food chemical additives, plastic seepage (gender benders mainly), smog, air fresheners, stuff other posters have said, over the counter painkillers, secondary detergent skin exposure, secondary dish washing liquids, a pluthera of sweeteners, Spray coating, fabric softeners, cleaning products... I probably left out a ton of stuff.

I left these out on purpose to get other people to talk about them I am not into sounding like a "Hermione Granger" know it all type. I want other people to come up with things they know of. I was perpetuating discussion. I also don't like long winded posts that take forever to read. So anyway just saying.

Originally posted by Max_TO
I have a good Reverse Osmosis filter system that removes florid from my water . Actually have my water down to 4 ppm from the 250 ppm that the city provides .

One question I do have , what's the best way to wash your food ? For some reason I don't think just rinsing under water does the trick ?

And to the second part of your question I mentioned it at the bottom of my post actually, go and buy something like an organic or natural veggie wash which is primarily citric acid and it eats the pesticides off of the veggies and fruits. After spraying and leaving spray on for a given amount of time then rinse under water.

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Thanks for that bit of info !
So please explain , does city water have those vitamins ? Is there a way to " bring back life " to my filtered water ?

Thanks for posting this, DragonSpirit2 -superb info to take to my city council.
Anyone else up for it? (lobbying your city/town council/municipalities and so on)

how do you explain the avg life expectancy as high as it is now , compared to 100 years ago since all of this stuff is so bad?

My Dad is 85 and is convinced big government is his friend. OH, He's been collecting Social Security since he was 62. I think He payed in about $25,000 in his lifetime. I've already payed in over $100,000 and expect nothing out of it in 10 years at 65.
He's convinced, no matter WHAT,the government would never intentionally hurt it's people for population control. That I need help.
I've been reading about the dangers of Flouride in water since before I read about ATS.
Same thing about Chemtrails.
I really don't care if my Dad or other ATSer's tell me I'm wrong.
Doesn't effect my opinion... At ALL.
My Dad has an adgenda. Keep his SS checks coming. Not his problem. OUR generations problem.
Don't MAKE my kids drink that water..
I have filter systems.
So they won't.
Not waiting for anyone to tell me how to help my family. Or be aware. Who's fault is it if my kids don't want to trust the government for their lives and health? Mine or the Governments?
I have no problems loving my Dad either.. Just communicating.