IF the worlds Wealth was divided FAIRly

reply to post by TheGhostViking


i understand what you're saying but what actually happens is completely different. you're an idealist, and most of us have the same desire to see a fair, equitable and happy world. but reality is, it's never anything like the picture elitists paint in hopes that they can rule over a huge base of impoverished slaves. here, let me clarify it in terms you can understand:

socialism is like serfdom. you have a few very rich people, and then everyone else, who share in a sort of equally distributed misery, in which criminals wander thru and further victimize them, like wolves in the barnyard. this is the reality of most places on the planet. and it doesn't work. the powers that be, hope they can sell you on the idea that socialism is different from serfdom, but it's not. it's the same thing, just a new word was created to hide what it actually is.

Originally posted by 3finjo
reply to post by TheGhostViking

 

Do you consider wealth divided equally to be fair? So a person who works hard all their life should hand money to someone who can't be bothered and actually prefers life on the dole? And there are a lot of people like that, both here in NZ and in the UK.

I would rather see higher wages going to those whose jobs are difficult, dangerous and /or make a difference like nurses, cops, fire fighters, teachers, military personnel, etc instead of news readers and celebrities and sportsmen.

I agree with your 2nd point , footballers are on 130 k a week !
regarding 1st point , i say we should try distribute the food and water supply fairer . The money issue is not feasible because simply put the rich are too greedy .
I know what you mean about the unemployed but on the other hand tptb have the abilty to destroy a lot of job opportunities. (our city centes with many businessess shut down) by crashing the currency.

EVERYTHING that is wrong in the world is because tptb want it to be that way .

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by TheGhostViking

 

i understand what you're saying but what actually happens is completely different. you're an idealist, and most of us have the same desire to see a fair, equitable and happy world. but reality is, it's never anything like the picture elitists paint in hopes that they can rule over a huge base of impoverished slaves. here, let me clarify it in terms you can understand:

socialism is like serfdom. you have a few very rich people, and then everyone else, who share in a sort of equally distributed misery, in which criminals wander thru and further victimize them, like wolves in the barnyard. this is the reality of most places on the planet. and it doesn't work. the powers that be, hope they can sell you on the idea that socialism is different from serfdom, but it's not. it's the same thing, just a new word was created to hide what it actually is.

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How can you define a movement that has never exsisted before?
you cant label it anything it has never been done before . None of our ancestors have had such VAST amount of evidence that proves the exsistance of a NWO , their enemies were obvious , ours are in the shadows .
The tactic of the nwo is to divide, and by labeling us as communist or socialist or marxist thats what a few of you are doing .

I fight for no political group or idea i fight for freedom .

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
HI guys
A question to you guys . If the worlds total wealth was divided by the worlds total population , how much wealth would each person have ?

Well according to this website the worlds wealth is about $46,513,000,000,000. Now, there are approximately 6,897,873,808 people in the world.... So if you divide that, you have $6 743.09233.


Not all that much... Assuming I did my math correctly. I do ask that some one double check me... But if I am correct, spreading the worlds wealth evenly, doesn't seem like it would make much of a difference to many people... But at the same time... There are quite a few people in the world that it would make a huge difference to.

My 2nd question is if the worlds total land was shared equally , how much land would each person have ?

OK, again we have approximately 6,897,873,808 people on earth.... There are approximately 57.5 million square miles of land on earth.

Once again, let's divide, amount of land, by the amount of people. That comes to 119.963023. So just under 120 square miles per person. Pretty large amount of land actually... To put that into perspective The district of Columbia is 68 square miles. So each person would get the equivalent of just under two districts of columbia.

Again, I encourage everyone to double check my math, just to be sure.

reply to post by TheGhostViking


marxism = serfdom. fascism = serfdom. (that's why it's so hard to differentiate. the difference is so miniscule, that it's nearly irrelevant)

either way, the result is the same: a few "royals" (et.al. elitists) have everything, while everyone else has a shared misery. when there are lots of rich people in one country is good not bad. that means the government encourages everyone to be an elitist. not serfs for life.

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How would you make the system fairer ? I ask because im sure your not pro georgia guidestones right ?
id rather hear other ideas than that lol .

this is the kinda thing that happens

Originally posted by DonnaLynn
Define "fairly" please.

If by "fairly" you mean I get to keep what I work my butt off for, then I would have as much as I earn. No more no less.

Communism does not work and never will. What works is a sense of self worth, hard work, and self preservation.

but isn't serving the self contrary to every notion of spiritual development? loss of ego, loss of "self", and being self-LESS is really the only way to develop the soul.

also, what exactly are you preserving? your momentary life which is over in a blink?

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What would the guy on your avatar think of todays world i wonder . I think hed applaud and star this thread to be honest, lol ,
What about food produced divided by 6.8 billion ?
guys before got 5 acres and 11k for the 2 previous questions , but im crap at maths so ...

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
[EXACTLY the ONLY people who wouldn't be happy with that are the rich ass holes who are greedy pigs.
id take a lower wage or whatever if it meant NOONE went hungry .

I'd be happy if the people who can't afford to feed themselves stopped having kids they can't afford to feed and the demanding others take care of there kids for them. If you want to eat, work. simple

americans sent billions of charitable money and it ended up being tied up in red tape at the local shipyards, where the import of materials to facillate the building of the new housing units, was held hostage by the haitian government, as demands for import/export fees were exacted. who's gonna pay for those fees when the money was all donated, a year earlier?

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
reply to post by gimme_some_truth

 

What would the guy on your avatar think of todays world i wonder . I think hed applaud and star this thread to be honest, lol ,
What about food produced divided by 6.8 billion ?
guys before got 5 acres and 11k for the 2 previous questions , but im crap at maths so ...

the guy in his avatar would vote for you to be poor, while he laughed all the way to his bank account of billions of dollars made while in pursuit of his ideal work style. (et.al, making money off his music)

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Your view is very idealistic , are you aware of how many people are unemployed globally right now ?
The manmade crash that has happened has destroyed many cities and towns , ONLY the global or big chains will survive , most family or small businesses have nearly been wiped out , Meanwhile the rich get richer and the wealth divide gets bigger and bigger . fat cats get bonuses we get unemployment cheques or red bills .

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
reply to post by undo

 

How would you make the system fairer ? I ask because im sure your not pro georgia guidestones right ?
id rather hear other ideas than that lol .

develop space, colonize other planets/moons or make liveable space stations. there's no reason to trap us all on this planet, where we fight and starve to death over available resources. allow alternative energy sources that not only solves the energy crisis, but is cheap, renewable and eco friendly. encourage EVERYONE to pursue jobs geared to their talents and abilities, without limiting them based on income, race, religion, gender or prior economic status. (notice i said, encourage, not demand!)

if you ask me, the majority of the problems we currently struggle with are not the results of greed, but the results of ideologies, clashing.

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
reply to post by gimme_some_truth

 

What would the guy on your avatar think of todays world i wonder . I think hed applaud and star this thread to be honest, lol ,
What about food produced divided by 6.8 billion ?
guys before got 5 acres and 11k for the 2 previous questions , but im crap at maths so ...

the guy in his avatar would vote for you to be poor, while he laughed all the way to his bank account of billions of dollars made while in pursuit of his ideal work style. (et.al, making money off his music)

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wow insulting John Lennon thats low , are you cia ? co intel pro? cmon , lol
who do you consider inspirational ? please dont say Crowley or manson, or Pike , i mean people that can unite the races peacefully ? please dont mention any entities whose exsistance could be disputed either !

reply to post by TheGhostViking


YOU unite the races, personally. each person does that.
any ideology that teaches the opposite, is missing the mark,
from what i can tell (i mean, just observing what transpires around
the world)

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by TheGhostViking
reply to post by undo

 

How would you make the system fairer ? I ask because im sure your not pro georgia guidestones right ?
id rather hear other ideas than that lol .

develop space, colonize other planets/moons or make liveable space stations. there's no reason to trap us all on this planet, where we fight and starve to death over available resources. allow alternative energy sources that not only solves the energy crisis, but is cheap, renewable and eco friendly. encourage EVERYONE to pursue jobs geared to their talents and abilities, without limiting them based on income, race, religion, gender or prior economic status. (notice i said, encourage, not demand!)

if you ask me, the majority of the problems we currently struggle with are not the results of greed, but the results of ideologies, clashing.

I agree for once with the majority of what you said apart from the space thing , I dont believe we ever went to the moon plus If man ever does go to the moon .................
it will be the elite who goes after theyve nuked us , theyll lets us die out and wait for the earth to be safe to live on again !

Originally posted by TheGhostVikingA question to you guys . If the worlds total wealth was divided by the worlds total population , how much wealth would each person have ?

I am certainly no economist but I bet what gives "wealth" its value is - scarcity. If you were to "level the wealth" absolutely the price of things would just inflate relative to the demand for them making all the "wealth" basically - worthless.

Then the fights would start over control of the resources that seemed to be in demand be they land, gold or human capital; and invariably the ones who were the most ruthless and cunning would end up controlling the others. It is simply human nature to be competitive and controlling.

Sorry, embrace it be good at it - no other strategy has paid off for humans or their societies since we have been around.

Sucks to be dumb, slow, small or pathetic in the animal kingdom or to be born in a land where food does not grow; then again that is what evolution is all about - "survival of the fittest".

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that's why i said, develop it for everyone to take advantage of (if they are personally interested or capable physically. i know that i'm not well enough to go to space, unless it's via some ET high tech thingy (in which case, i'd be asking if they could fix my physical problems, while wer'e out there, flying around lol)