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The Secret's Out: Internet Media Is Beginning to Report That Jared Loughner Is a Member Of Abovetop

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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:32 PM
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They will try to connect the insane boy with whoever is remotely connected with his rants....
Not that they are connected....but why let an insane one's rants go unused by the media...to paraphrase.

"The bottom has a rocky reputation......" Joe Walsh ca 1985



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81
Mugshot of Jared
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/22aba56060ea.jpg[/atsimg]

Raise your hand if you think he look evil


He looks pretty cheerful. No job worries anymore. Life just got a lot simpler for the guy.

Any bets on how long it takes for this shot to show up as someone's avatar on some board somewhere?
edit on 1/10/2011 by NorEaster because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:49 PM
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Yeah. Nothing like 3 hots and a cot to ease your stress level.

edit on 10-1-2011 by Kangaruex4Ewe because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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very disturbing words from you
what about your soul ? bringing shameness for eternity on it

and he killed a child ... if he go into a prison ... he will be eaten alive by other prisonners
he wanted hell .. karma will give him hell
there is no good or simple outcome out of this .. even after dying

Edit : can you explain me your avatar .. where is it from ?? seems like a tortured dog



edit on 1/10/2011 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:52 PM
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Good point and good advice!

Originally posted by NoRegretsEver
IMHO I would be careful about the "cryptic" messages made by new members. The reason why ATS is what it is, is because we know to read between the lines. Due to the threads concerning a possible link between ATS and this horrific event, there will be a HUGE amount of new members, that will make such claims, or even leave cryptic remarks in order to get attention.

If this had not happened, then would we really be asking for someone to give more info about a one word sentence? We have hundreds of posts regarding this, and we should be careful, about what is said, and or insinuated at this point. Especially after I saw the new member and visitor thread. People will be looking for a story, or a better connection to possibly tie ATS to this event.
Just my 2 cents.
Peace, NRE.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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I think this will be a nine-day wonder as there are bigger crises on the horizon. Maybe there will be more security agents but "what ho" his posts were not illegal and some people called him on his nutty posts. I like to think that the ATS memebrs are a tough bunch.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 04:59 PM
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Sentence him to the general population.

2nd line.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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The plot thickens...

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5becc8c8b2a3.jpg[/atsimg]



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by InTheShadows
reply to post by NorEaster
 


Sentence him to the general population.

2nd line.


release him in the middle of the ocean



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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I must say, ATS is full of some of the people with the most open minds, self-thinking ability, and objective thought, at least a far greater percentage than will be found in the general public. So unfortunately there is a certain percentage of people that do not meet all, or any of those criteria, let's say erad3.

A few facts; Jared is the alleged criminal in the shooting, this is yet to be proven in court. erad3 is allegedly Jared, yet to be proven in any medium. So this is already based on two assumptions, albeit safe.

Birds can fly.
Penguins are birds.
Therefore penguins can fly
.

Change some of the nouns, verbs, add some other nonsense and that is essentially what erad3, allegedly Jared, allegedly the attacker, was posting here on ATS. With that said, it may have been Jared sometimes, and a friend or family member at other times.

I read the majority of erad3 posts, over half. I could have read those repeatedly, studied them, mastered and researched them and I never would predict he would commit any crime, let alone this alleged crime.

Therefore, the FBI, CIA, DHHS can confiscate all of his postings, rhetoric, even his youtube videos and they would not in any way convince a jury that he shot Gifford and the other victims.

Essentially, I don't think this is going to affect ATS too much, other than increase membership (if not merely to see the erad3 profile/posts even though they're public searchable). I at first thought this may expose ATS to the likes of federal police, but they already know about this site. Now the media probably won't say too much about us, other than call us loons (essentially), and in less than 24 hours ATS will be off of their headlines. True, the DHHS/FBI/CIA will monitor more for suspicious activity, but I'm pretty sure there are more than enough posts/replies on here so that individual people can't scan all of them (they aren't god or santa). Therefore, they use technology searching for key words and phrases, but they were already doing that prior to the attack, and I'm sure Jared did not cause any 'hits' in their system.

In a former post, prior to the discovery of erad3, I said it would be BIG if he was on here. And yes it has been on ATS, check out the top story now, and 2/3 member picks.


I'm with you that this could be something big, but we need to find the post. This guy would certainly fit the ATS type (or stereotype), younger-middle aged white male based on site statistics. Maybe that post you read about the bird...was written by the same person, that would be BIG


It's like being part of history, not saying it's good or bad, but it is interesting nonetheless to read posts by an infamous criminal. Why do people read books written by serial killers? They don't condone the crimes, it probably scares the heck out of them, but it's interesting to think about how a 'crazy' person thinks.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:02 PM
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Star for that. Because most hard core criminals and even murderers can't stomach a child killer.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:04 PM
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You blame uncle Fester, but Pugsley looks more capable of the evil, who knows!?

But without the hair, Jared is indeed a look-alike for Uncle Fester. WOW!
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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:10 PM
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Yeah, but Wednesday is the quiet one. Isn't it usually the quiet ones?

Yes I realize she isn't a he.
Attempt at levity and all that...



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by MKULTRA
Assuming that erad3 WAS Loughner, then I think admin made the appropriate decision to ban the account. Although Loughner is in custody, everything he ever wrote or produced online is evidence that can be obtained upon discovery.

Banning the account was a good move to preserve that evidence and prevent anyone without moderation privileges from hacking into the account and contaminating the evidence.



SO hasn't mentioned anything about the IP addresses used by erad3 and there is only anecdotal evidence in the media that we know of.

No violent content in erad3's posts on ATS just very cryptic. There are some people on ATS that no doubt can discuss things amongst themselves intrathread using esoteric paradigms, music lyrics etc. No link between ATS and violent crime that I can see?



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Wednesday.
Yes it usually is the quiet ones, maybe she is the root of all .... next to ..... (fill in the blanks)



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:17 PM
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Although I read quite a bit of content here on ATS, I rarely log in or post. I don't really have much in the way of worthwhile content so I lurk and keep my opinions to myself for the most part. I did want to chime in on this subject though. I for one do not see any relevant correlation to erad3 doing what he did and his posting here on ATS. Assuming of course that it is indeed Loughner.
From what I have seen of erad3's content, he posted some bizarre material. I never saw anything from this member which stated, or implied that he was contemplating any type of attack whatsoever.
If strange posts were suspect, then there are many many members here on ATS who should be under the microscope. I would hope that content which is a bit odd is not the formula to be used to ascertain whether or not a member should be labeled a killer and/or banned. Please do not spin what I am trying to say. If any type of attack is so much as implied then that is a different story. Frankly while his posts were not anything I found to be noteworthy, and far from anything I would try and figure out they were something that is ATS. I enjoy the informative posts, as well as the banter going on here. It is intriguing to see talented and knowledgeable people have a debate of sorts. The alternative views of some is also attractive. It is what keeps me reading.
In my opinion I feel that there is nothing to fear from the powers in charge here. No wrongs were committed by anyone in reading erad3's posts. No wrongs were committed in allowing him to post his thoughts however strange they may appear.
If anything I would rhink that any publicity would benefit the ATS site with an influx of new members.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:45 PM
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wow, so this is the second crazy murderer to be a member of ATS. How many more are there here? I'm sure the government will be asking someone that question.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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The media might mention the fact that he was a poster here, but I don't think there will be any specific scrutiny of ATS. The attention will go elsewhere, like those that are in the hospital, his court proceedings, ect. Today everyone is somewhere on the internet, and he was a member of multiple sites.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 06:19 PM
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uggh, i dunno about you guyz, but i have already had to defend my membership of this site twice today before i even knew any media was reporting what we here had already surmised. i often post good threads from this site on my facebook and i have already been asked twice today "don't you use that site? why don't you know nothing but crazy people are there full of their "conspiracy" theories".



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 06:20 PM
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I think FOX news, CNN, BBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, Comedy Network, Al Jazeera, Russia Today, ALL SUCK.

There, if anyone's watching ATS from MSM tonight, that should get me featured. hahahaha.




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