Egypt, Mayan's, Mason's, 2012 and YOU

reply to post by disfugured

it shortened the days.. which in turn augmented time.

Time is not augmented. The issue is that the length of the day is affected by at least some quakes. The length of the day is also affected by tides. Leap seconds are occasionally added to atomic clocks to keep them in synch with the motion of the Earth.
Leap Seconds

For those of you who keep referring to this math as hogwash… you know, you might be right, but what I find funny is… none of you actually understand the significance of it, nor how it all related to many, many cultures from around the world... And that’s fine be whoever, just leave this thread alone… please… every generations suffers from what I call conceitous-zeitgeistous and our time is no different.

The math is hogwash because the reason for the mathematical steps is unjustified. The results are therefore at best suspect, but truthfully are of no value. To claim that there is "significance" to dubious mathematical operations is in itself hogwash.

Where is the evidence that these mathematical operations are related to any culture? Please name one and the evidence that shows the connection.

Once again I have to reject the pleasant request for censorship.

Years ago Nova ran a show about ancient astronauts. In it they spoofed Von Daniken's movie. To do that they showed the Washington Monument in the US capital and showed the crowds milling about. The narrator described the construction of the monument and then asked if these people could have built this amazing monument. The camera showed mothers pushing strollers and toddlers eating ice cream and fat old men sweating in the summer heat. Then they announced that the height of the Washington Monument in rods was the distance to Arcturus (or Pollux) in light years. "Could this have been built by visitors from Arcturus (or Pollux)?" asks the narrator.

Here are the steps:
height of Washington Monument in feet = 555 feet
1 rod = 16.5 feet
555 feet *1 rod/16.5 feet = 33.6 rods (rounded to 3 digits of precision)

distance to Arcturus = 33.6 light years
www.keplersoftware.co.uk...
en.wikipedia.org...
distance to Pollux = 33.7 light years
solstation.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

Yes, it is possible to make up all sorts of weird connections as long as you do not observe the units of measure being used.

reply to post by stereologist


A day consists of time.. does it not?

Leap seconds are occasionally added to atomic clocks to keep them in synch with the motion of the Earth.

Which is still time.

This is genius!

I always noticed a connection of life to those numbers, but I never knew what was behind their importance.

You have exposed me to some great Tru7h.

reply to post by disfugured

it shortened the days.. which in turn augmented time.

A day consists of time.. does it not?

The length of the day is a way to measure time. Changes to the time it takes for the Earth to turn on its axis does not affect time. Time is independent of these changes. Time is not augmented because of an event.

The fact that the Earth's rotation changes over time is a measurable phenomena. Take a look back millions of years and you'd see that there were over 400 days in the year. As the Earth's spin slows down there are fewer days in the year. This is seen in the fossil record.

You may not be confused about the difference between time and using the Earth's spin as a measure of time, but it seems that you might be, which is why I pointed out the difference.

reply to post by Colton

I always noticed a connection of life to those numbers

Can you tell us which numbers you are referring to and why?

The observation by littlebunny that the planetary alignment has the same spacing ratio as the large pyramids at the Giza plateau has never been in dispute. I've stated before that this was an interesting observation. The question remains whether or not this is of significance. It has been my clearly stated position that no evidence has been put forth to connect these things, i.e. it is a coincidence.

I have shown that the math is lacking. I have asked why there are claims that the numbers, not named, are of significance to many, many cultures as claimed. So far nothing has been produced that even vaguely supports the claim of cultural significance.

1. Shunning the clear evidence that the mathematical operations have been conjured out of nowhere is a sign f a closed mind.
   
2. Blindly accepting the claims that time and length are comparable is a sign of a closed mind.
   
3. Demanding that others be closed minded is a sign of a closed mind.
   

An open mind would have clearly pointed out that my position does not state that this is definitely a coincidence. An open mind would see that my position is that nothing has been offered to connect the alignment with the pyramids other than the apparent spacing ratio.

So.

I counted back 666 days from 12/3/12 again.

I believe I made an error the first time.

You said count 666 days back from 12/3/12 and find out where your leaders are on that date.

I reached 2/7/11 this time, that is today and apparently Hilary Clinton has called a meeting of all the 270 ambassadors and consulars www.abovetopsecret.com...

Count 666 days before Dec 3, 2012 and then find out where your leaders were.

Using excel the answer is Feb 6, 2011.

Click here for more information.

reply to post by vermonster

Count 666 days before Dec 3, 2012 and then find out where your leaders were.

Today is not 1 day before today. Yesterday is 1 day before today.

Obviously, the correct day is 2/6/2011.

I posted this in another thread but I figured I would pst it here as well since it is related to Numerology and the OP:


This is all very interesting;
I decided to have a look into the past.

This is what I found;

Notice the frequency of certain numbers:
Numerology
Occultist Numerology
Biblical Numerology
Mayan Numerology
Greek Numerology
Chinese Numerology

DD/MM/YYYY

The American Origins; AD
American Origin

1215 = 4975; 4976
1492 = 5252; 5253
1497 = 5257; 5258
1588 = 5348; 5349
1607 = 5367; 5368
1620 = 5380; 5381
1629 = 5389; 5390
1640-1659 = 5400-5419
1660 = 5420; 5421
1685 = 5445; 5446
1686 = 5446; 5447
1692 = 5452; 5453
1707 = 5467; 5468

[22/2/1732] 22 February 1732 = 26th of Sh'vat, 5492 [26/11/5492]
[1/6/1732] 1 June 1732 = 8th of Sivan, 5492 [8/3/5492]
[1/11/1734] 1 November 1734 = 5th of Cheshvan, 5495 [5/8/5495]

1756 = 5516; 5517
1765 = 5525; 5526
1768 = 5528; 5529
1770 = 5530; 5531
1772 = 5532; 5533

[16/12/1773] 16 December 1773 = 2nd of Tevet, 5534 [2/10/5534]
[20/5/1774] 20 May 1774 = 10th of Sivan, 5534 [10/3/5534]
[17/9/1774] 17 September 1774 = 12th of Tishrei, 5535 [12/7/5535]

[14/4/1775] 14 April 1775 = 14th of Nisan, 5535 [14/1/5535]
[10/5/1775] 10 May 1775 = 10th of Iyyar, 5535 [10/2/5535]
[15/6/1775] 15 June 1775 = 17th of Sivan, 5535 [17/3/5535]
[6/7/1775] 6 July 1775 = 8th of Tamuz, 5535 [8/4/5535]

[5/1/1776] January 1776 = 13th of Tevet, 5536 [13/10/5536]
[10/5/1776] 10 May 1776 = 21st of Iyyar, 5536 [21/2/5536]
[11/6/1776] 11 June 1776 = 24th of Sivan, 5536 [24/3/5536]
[28/6/1776] 28 June 1776 = 11th of Tamuz, 5536 [11/4/5536]
[4/7/1776] 4 July 1776 = 17th of Tamuz, 5536 [17/4/5536]
[2/8/1776] 2 August 1776 = 17th of Av, 5536 [17/5/5536]

[14/6/1777] 14 June 1777 = 9th of Sivan, 5537 [9/3/5537]
[27/10/1777] 17 October 1777 = 16th of Tishrei, 5538 [16/7/5538]
[15/11/1777] 15 November 1777 = 15th of Cheshvan, 5538 [15/8/5538]
[6/2/1778] 6 February 1778 = 9th of Sh'vat, 5538 [9/11/5538]
[10/7/1778] 10 July 1778 = 15th of Tamuz, 5538 [15/5/5538]
[16/6/1779] 16 June 1779 = 2nd of Tamuz, 5539 [2/4/5539]
[27/2/1781] 27 February 1781 = 2nd of Adar, 5541 [2/12/5541]
[19/4/1782] 19 April 1782 = 5th of Iyyar, 5542 [5/2/5542]
[20/6/1782] 20 June 1782 = 8th of Tamuz, 5542 [8/4/5542]

[3/2/1783] 3 February 1783 = 1st of Adar I, 5543 [1/12/5543]
[15/3/1783] 15 March 1783 = 11th of Adar II, 5543 [11/13/5543]
[11/4/1783] 11 April 1783 = 9th of Nisan, 5543 [9/1/5543]
[23/12/1783] 23 December 1783 = 28th of Kislev, 5544 [28/9/5544]
[14/1/1784] 14 January 1784 = 20th of Tevet, 5544 [20/10/5544]

[25/5/1787] 25 May 1787 = 8th of Sivan, 5547 [8/3/5547]
[17/9/1787] 17 September 1787 = 5th of Tishrei, 5548 [5/7/5548]
[26/11/1789] 26 November 1789 = 8th of Kislev, 5550 [8/9/5550]

Other dates of interest:
[20/4/1889] 20 April 1889 = 19th of Nisan, 5649 [19/1/5649]
[11/11/1918] 11 November 1918 = 7th of Kislev, 5679 [7/9/5679]
[3/9/1939] 3 September 1939 = 19th of Elul, 5699 [19/6/5699]
[11/12/1941] 11 December 1941 = 21st of Kislev, 5702 [21/9/5702]
[6/6/1944] 6 June 1944 = 15th of Sivan, 5704 [15/3/5704]

[11/9/2001] 11 September 2001 = 23rd of Elul, 5761 [23/6/5761]

Note:
Some dates may be incorrect/mis converted. Please let me know of any mistakes.

Look those dates up; learn the importance.

Also;
Look up other dates of importance to the world.

Convert, compare, analyse.



The worlds culture and religion are all based on the same numbers. These numbers are a design.

Nibiru; the Annunaki follow the same numerology:

Secrets

What do you think the connection is all about?

reply to post by Colton

Notice the frequency of certain numbers:

What frequency do you see?

I looked through the first link on numerology and it does as is typical in numerology: no steps are justified. Steps are simply done.

The Mayan links makes a lot of grandiose claims with any supporting statements such as the Mayans having a number system "superior and extremely advanced compared to all other number systems." There is also a claim that "The number zero was first used by the Mayan in their number system. " That's false. The Babylonians invented zero before the Mayans even existed. It is believed that the Olmecs more likely invented the concept of zero and the Mayans retained that concept.
Zero - early history

Do reiterate, what frequency do you see?

reply to post by stereologist

The length of the day is a way to measure time. Changes to the time it takes for the Earth to turn on its axis does not affect time. Time is independent of these changes. Time is not augmented because of an event.

How do you think they(ancestors) were able to devise a way to calculate time? Or measure a day? How can you measure distance without time? How can you measure time without distance? They based time on the length of the day.. which you've stated. If the day is augmented, that means time has changed. If time has not changed.. then the days we base our time on stayed the same.. which it did not. If the days have shortened.. can you say without a benefit of a doubt that our biological clocks stayed the same? Or, did our biological clocks adjust with the shorter days?

The fact that the Earth's rotation changes over time is a measurable phenomena. Take a look back millions of years and you'd see that there were over 400 days in the year. As the Earth's spin slows down there are fewer days in the year. This is seen in the fossil record.

I get that. I agree with that fact.

You may not be confused about the difference between time and using the Earth's spin as a measure of time, but it seems that you might be, which is why I pointed out the difference.

What did you tell me the difference of?

What if an event can change time. What if an interval or sequence of motion can shorten or extend? Would it be noticeable if everything systematically adjusts? Nobody knows for sure what time really is or if it can be changed/manipulated. That has been debated as far back as history takes us. Perhaps in the future.. time will be understood differently while we continue to accumulate knowledge.

reply to post by disfugured

How do you think they(ancestors) were able to devise a way to calculate time? Or measure a day? How can you measure distance without time? How can you measure time without distance? They based time on the length of the day.. which you've stated. If the day is augmented, that means time has changed. If time has not changed.. then the days we base our time on stayed the same.. which it did not. If the days have shortened.. can you say without a benefit of a doubt that our biological clocks stayed the same? Or, did our biological clocks adjust with the shorter days?

I believe you meant to ask how to measure time, not calculate time.

How can I measure distance without time? Time is not required to measure distance. There are methods which use time to determine the duration a signal goes out and an echo returns as in radar or ultrasound or seismology or laser distance measuring.

You claim that the length of the day was the basis for time. Let's assume that to be true. Then you make the mistake that if the length of the day changes, then time has changed. Not at all. It simply means that the gold standard on which the units are calibrated is not stable. So you try to reverse the argument and claim that if time has not changed, then the days we use as the gold standard has not changed. A false argument.

You are confusing the event being measured with the units of measurement. Time is independent of the rate at which the earth rotates. At one time the length of the day was stable and fixed, because the precision with which the measurements could be made was unable to detect that the length of the day is changing. Now we are able to detect that the length of the day changes over time. Our methods are more precise.

Suppose that a water drip was used to measure time. If the flow of water is increased and there is more dripping does it mean that the time is speeding up?

What did you tell me the difference of?

I've gone over it above:
1. There is time
2. There is the measurement of an event's duration

What if an event can change time. What if an interval or sequence of motion can shorten or extend? Would it be noticeable if everything systematically adjusts?

We do know that time is different in different frames of reference. We know that gravity affects time. Consider the twins paradox as an example of a sequence of motion affecting time.

reply to post by stereologist


As a layman here would you please tell me how gravity affects time, if you please.


Icanseeatoms.

reply to post by Icanseeatoms


General relativity predicts that time slows down in high gravitational fields. The slow down is relative to an observer in a lesser gravitational field. The observer in the higher gravitational field does not notice the change. If two atomic clocks are synchronized and then 1 is raised so that it is in a lower gravitational field and then returned to the stationary clock it is seen that the raised and lowered clock is ahead since it was moved to a position where the gravitational field is lower.

Tick-Tock Atomic Clock

According to Einstein's theory of gravity and space-time -- called "general relativity" -- clocks in strong gravity tick slower than clocks in weak gravity. Because gravity is weaker on the ISS than at Earth's surface, PARCS should accumulate an extra second every 10,000 years compared to clocks ticking on the planet below. PARCS won't be there that long, but the clock is so stable that it will reveal this effect in less than one year. (Strayer notes that clocks on GPS satellites experience this relativistic phenomenon, too, and that onboard systems must correct for it.)

Einstein's Relativity Affects Aging on Earth (Slightly)

Using two ultraprecise atomic clocks, Chou and colleagues showed that lifting one clock by only about a foot (33 centimeters) above the other creates enough of a gravitational difference that the higher clock ticks slightly faster.

Now that is a precise timepiece!

reply to post by stereologist

I believe you meant to ask how to measure time, not calculate time. How can I measure distance without time? Time is not required to measure distance. There are methods which use time to determine the duration a signal goes out and an echo returns as in radar or ultrasound or seismology or laser distance measuring.

My bad.. I was thinking speed.

You claim that the length of the day was the basis for time.

Do you think the length of day has an impact on our biological clock? For eg; say the day shortened by an hour. That's 365 hours a year shorter. That's just over 15 days less per year. What kind of effect does that have on our lives if there is any? What determines the time our bodies have in the aging process.. let's pretend that the average life expectancy on earth is 50 years. Would the average life expectancy be the same if that person was living on another planet with the exact same variables minus the length of the day.. Say that 'other' planet's length of a day is 48 hours.. but all the seasons have 12 months and 365 days to a year. Only diff is the length of the day. Would the average life expectancy still be 50 years.. or would it be 25? Since planets are round/circular and time seems to be circular.. Another example; as the second hand makes an entire cycle around the clock, the minute hand advances a notch. What if after every earth's seasonal cycle advances a year our biological clock advances a notch. In that regard.. it does change time because the most important time is the time we have in this live. I hope I'm not losing anybody.. because I almost lost myself.

reply to post by disfugured


The question of the biological clock is not the same as discussing time. That is a separate issue. It is well known that the length of dark is important in some plants. That is why certain plants do not do well in areas lit up at night.

That's just over 15 days less per year.

Be careful here because you have 2 different days. One day is 24 hours in length and the other is 23 hours in length.

All of the issues about life expectancy are independent of the issue of time in the sense that living longer or shorter does not change time itself.

... or would it be 25?

This suggests a bit of confusion on your part. The length of the day is due to the rotation of the planet. The length of the year is due to the orbit of the planet. These are independent.

Since planets are round/circular and time seems to be circular..

Planets are balls, not spheres. A sphere is hollow. A planet is not. Time is linear, not circular.

it does change time because the most important time is the time we have in this live.

Not true at all. Life expectancy does not change time. Time is no different today than 200 years ago, yet we live much longer. The rotation of the Earth is not different. The length of the year is not different. How do we know these things? Because we can compare modern astronomical observations to ancient ones and see that there has been no change.