Israel said it would keep Gaza near collapse: WikiLeaks

Israel told US officials in 2008 it would keep Gaza's economy "on the brink of collapse" while avoiding a humanitarian crisis, according to U.S. diplomatic cables published by a Norwegian daily on Wednesday. Three cables cited by the Aftenposten newspaper, which has said it has all 250,000 U.S. cables leaked to WikiLeaks, showed that Israel kept the U.S. Embassy in Tel Aviv briefed on its internationally criticized blockade of the Gaza Strip.

The territory, home to 1.3 million Palestinians, is run by the Islamist Hamas group, which is shunned by the West over its refusal to recognize Israel, renounce violence or accept existing interim Israeli-Palestinian peace deals.

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No doubt Israeli apologists and Zionists will give you all the reasons in the world why an occupied people should be put on a punishment regime that is collective punishment. By accepting their argument, you become complicit in the suffering of others.

It is worth remembering that the Nuremberg Principles specifically identified collective punishment as a war crime and crime against humanity. Most Americans are horrified at the current US recession and the unemployment figures reaching up over 10% yet the Zionist settler state claims that it wants to keep the Gaza economy "on the brink of collapse" while avoiding a humanitarian crisis.

A humanitarian crisis is what has happened in Haiti, the famine in Ethiopia in the 1980s was a humanitarian crisis and and the Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans was a humanitarian crisis . Israel wants to squeeze the Palestinians of Gaza but promises not to create a humanitarian crisis.

There is over 50% unemployment in Gaza, Israel allows candy bars through the blockade but not food or medicine. Once in a while Israel will allow a truck load of live and aged chickens through and then on another rotten vegetable. Where the Palestinian farm, the Israel steal the water but if they can't get the water they kill the farmers. Israel destroyed the fuel stores of the Palestinians in the 2008 Israel siege of Gaza and now controls what enters or leaves Gaza. Fishermen are not permitted to fish is the sea and the zionist navy kills them at sea.

Beach fishing has stopped because Israel has built pipework to transport the effluence for its towns and cities and releases it on the Gaza coast.



Israel killing Palestinian farmers



Israel killing Palestinian farmers



Israel declaring a farm an automatic kill zone



Israel killing fishermen



Israel burning the Palestinian fishing boats

Do you realise the US tax payers paid Israel billions to leave Gaza? The Zionists are still occupying it and no one knows where all those tax dollars went.

Good thread . Just more proof israel does what it wants when it wants


There is nothing you

The united states

The U.N

or international community can do about it

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Yes I saw that pathetic zionist video made for American consumption.

It really is a shame the Palestinians have only those home made fire crackers to fight the zionist settler state.

A cruel and unnecessary move by the Israeli government, which in the end worked against them- Instead of making the people of Gaza realize they had made the wrong choice (I don't know what leap of logic lead anyone to think that would happen) it actually made people cling to Hamas more, and hate Israel more. Just stupid.

I feel bad for the people of Gaza who have had to suffer those bans on chocolates and whatever..

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Started out nice and informative, and then you just slipped into the heavy propaganda zone. It's a shame.

It feels like you're so insecure in your own stance that you must always spill absolutely every little bit of negative information you have on Israel no matter what the topic is.

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A zionist will always aim to shift the cause of war crimes from his bloody hands onto the victim. This pathology of zionist narcissism means that they do no wrong. A Palestinian child ends up with a sniper's bullet in his head and the zionist will say the child was throwing rocks or his parents were using him as human shield to make Israel look bad.

In December 2008, Israel surrounded and bombarded Gaza with HE shells, phosphorous bombs, thermobaric weapons and DIME munitions and Israel and its apologist said that it was because militants of Gaza where firing rocket (they are crap weapons) into Israel. Israel and zionist fail to mention that these pathetic rockets were used in retaliation to Israeli assassinations, for the use of illegal flechete rounds fired from tanks onto Gaza neighbourhoods and various criminal acts such as the kidnap and killings of Palestinian children. We now know that Israel does a roaring trade in human internal organs which adds reason to the murders in custody.

So what do you think the justification the zionist will use for the starvation regime and economic collapse of the Palestinians of Gaza will be?

Zionist say the people of Gaza mistakenly voted for Hamas.

The Palestinian of Gaza had a free and democratic election and Israel objected and has punished them with 3 weeks of a devastating military assault and having destroyed the infrastructure, Israel is conducting a blockade which is an act of grievous war.


A zionist will accuse anyone making the above points of being an anti-Semite and Jew hater. Weird

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Kudos.

You have managed to derail your own thread completely off topic in a matter of 4 replies, in a reply to yourself of all things, on matters that no one even remotely brought up, to invisible Zionists.

I am mind blown.


P.S-
Your second paragraph is made of misguided notions at best, and blatant lies at worse.

Originally posted by Eliad

I feel bad for the people of Gaza who have had to suffer those bans on chocolates and whatever..

Come on! These people are suffering and are being killed for no reason! Put yourself in their shoes for just 1 second. Live inside prison walls not knowing if you will be killed and that if you get injured or sick, your local "hospital" doesn't have the medical supplies to help you... and forget crossing the border for help, they'll let you die...

Eliad, I know you're smarter than that.

Magnum

Pallywood at its best, directed (poorly) by lefty anarchists.
And for those claiming Palestinians rockets are crappy, I dare you to stand in the killing radius of one of these. Lets see how brave you really are.

By the way, I could never figure out why Israel is condemned for using DIME weapons, when a DIME weapon was developed to actually minimize collateral damage.
I guess pathetic lies is just your way.

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Of course that's not the only reason I feel bad for them..

Originally posted by gravitational
Pallywood at its best, directed (poorly) by lefty anarchists.
And for those claiming Palestinians rockets are crappy, I dare you to stand in the killing radius of one of these. Lets see how brave you really are.

By the way, I could never figure out why Israel is condemned for using DIME weapons, when a DIME weapon was developed to actually minimize collateral damage.
I guess pathetic lies is just your way.

And how many Israelis have been in that "killing radius".??
I guess I shouldn't mention the palistinian deaths due to Israel.

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What the leaks show is that despite what Israel was telling everyone, it DID hold back supplies..

Who'd of guessed that Israel would lie.???
I'm gobsmacked.

Originally posted by EliadOf course that's not the only reason I feel bad for them, I was referring to the ban on goods and the whole keeping Gaza near collapse thing...

your original comment was an attempt to downplay the horrific situation and down play items banned ie "chocolate or whatever"

Please education yourself, the internet provides a terrific tool, the tool is called "google"

Tip: refrain from commentary articles, they dont really provide that much information, besides banter and noise
look for links which will take you to a file: documents with a LIST of banned items

Get informed, be informed

Snippets from the article (raw)

"As part of their overall embargo plan against Gaza, Israeli officials have confirmed to (U.S. embassy economic officers) on multiple occasions that they intend to keep the Gazan economy on the brink of collapse without quite pushing it over the edge," one of the cables read.

Israel wanted the coastal territory's economy "functioning at the lowest level possible consistent with avoiding a humanitarian crisis," according to the November 3, 2008 cable.

Palestinians say impoverished Gaza remains effectively a "prison" sealed off by Israel, and have called for an opening to allow normal trade and other links with the world

Originally posted by backinblack
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What the leaks show is that despite what Israel was telling everyone, it DID hold back supplies..

Who'd of guessed that Israel would lie.???
I'm gobsmacked.

YES Israel DID hold back supplies and CONTINUES to hold back supplies

US Government looks the other way because they've done the same thing to other countries

If the U.S. really wanted to do away with terrorism they could kill two birds with one stone, so to speak:

Bomb Israel back to the stone age. This not only gives the Palestinians their freedom from the new "National Socialist Party", but also gives the Islamic extremists a reason to stop hating America. After all, they have good reason to you know.

Of course this will never happen. How do you keep the global Military Industrial Complex going without a never-ending war? You don't. And besides, Israel and the U.S. are joined at the hip in more ways than one. It's an insideous synthesis, the aim of which is obscured by those at the helm.

this_is_who_we_are typical indoctrinated war mongering mindset: - "bomb them, kill them all, destroy everything"

USA/Allies need to:

* Stop funding/sending aid
* Stop trading with Israel
* Stop selling/aiding Israel with weapons
* Stop siding and supporting Israel
* Stop looking the other way
* Stop making excuses for Israel's actions

Originally posted by Ellen15
this_is_who_we_are

typical indoctrinated war mongering mindset: - "bomb them, kill them all, destroy everything"

USA/Allies need to:

* Stop funding/sending aid
* Stop trading with Israel
* Stop selling/aiding Israel with weapons
* Stop siding and supporting Israel
* Stop looking the other way
* Stop making excuses for Israel's actions

edit on 6-1-2011 by Ellen15 because: (no reason given)

*Stop vetoing ALL UN resolutions against Israel...
Just thought I'd add one for the good guys.

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Luckily for Israelis they had a system of alarms that went off every time one of those things get launched. I told them they have 3-7 seconds to run to a shelter or they might die.

There was an average of 5 of these launched every day I think, for 7 years or something.

Nah, but I'm sure you would've loved living in Alarm City. All this running is a good workout too.

What the leaks show is that despite what Israel was telling everyone, it DID hold back supplies..

Are we reading the same links? There's nothing in there about holding back supplies.

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Are we reading the same links? There's nothing in there about holding back supplies.

Ohh sorry..So how did Israel keep them near collapse then??
You tell us...

BTW, atleast the Israelis had alarms..
I don't think the school kids in Gaza heard any alarms before the phosphorus fell on them...