Volcano watch 2011

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Please Note = IMHO and most others here for some time = The MSM gets most of there leads from here = ATS. Therefore, here on these most important Threads we try get to the nitty gritty as You have just helped here - Great job BTW. But, you have to remember - there are "sensors" = Until They figure it out (lol) - we will hear little in the MSM.

Note to Them: We want:

1) Tremor Instruments
2) Seismic Instruments
3) Deformations Istruments
4) CO2 Reading Instruments
5) Live Web Cam

To Start -

Thanking you in advance for your prompt attention to this matter,

Anmarie

OK, I am NOT sounding the alarm bells and blowing the wistle - well, not yet!

Sumatra:
14 June 00h08 UTC = 5.3 Mag = 22 km deep
14 June 03h01 UTC = 5.4 Mag = 8.2 km deep

Yes I know, in past 40 years there were at least 40 quakes in that immediate region above 4.5 mag.
Toba lake temperature rose nearly 1.5 degrees Celsius in past two years. These quakes are on the Southern rim of the old super volcano; also the area suspected of the youngest lava flow. No need for fear.

The last big eruption was about 74,000 years ago. Since that time the magma chamber has refilled and pressure been building up; this causes uplifting of Samosir Island and the Uluan Peninsula above the surface of the lake. The lake sediments on Samosir Island show that it has been uplifted by at least 750 metres in this past 77,000 years. Though this uplifting is common in large calderas, this particular caldera dome of Lake Toba is the largest resurgent one in the world.

Large earthquakes have occurred in the vicinity of the volcano more recently; 1892, 1916,1920, , notably in 1987 along the southern shore of the lake at a depth of 11 km. Other earthquakes have occurred in the area in 1892, 1916, and 1920-1922. Since 1995 there are an increasing number of annual large earthquakes near Lake Toba including the 9.3 in December 2004 and 8.7 in 2005. All of these major quakes epicentres were within 300 km from Lake Toba Caldera. 300 km may sound far, but consider the actual footprint of Toba Volcano is about 230x170 km. The caldera is currently about 100x30 km.

So is this volcano going to erupt?
Definitely soon I think; BUT NOT today or this week. Although it is a SuperVolcano; it is more likely to have small eruptions rather than a big top-blowing for at least another few hundred years. HOWEVER; do keep a sleepy eye on this naval of the world; something is brooding around here geologically; on the geological time scale 10 years is only a few seconds.

For past two hours it seems Nabro got an anti-smoke patch; he stopped smoking ash.
No more earthquakes over 3.0 mag since past 24 hours.

Now is the curiosity of what the magma is doing.

reply to post by Aromaz


EUMETSAT ASH show activity restarting at 13:00 hrs

And continues up to the last current image @ 1500 hrs

reply to post by Anmarie96


You know I had a dream of this Toba volcano erupting. I posted it here on ats and did not remember the name. I remembered it sounded like a wind instrument and when you said the name that was it. I am not much on volcano's and not much dreamer.

Originally posted by SkipperJohn
reply to post by Anmarie96

 

You know I had a dream of this Toba volcano erupting. I posted it here on ats and did not remember the name. I remembered it sounded like a wind instrument and when you said the name that was it. I am not much on volcano's and not much dreamer.

excuse moi but TOBA can not erupt before yellowstone erupts i simply WILL NOT ALLOW IT ..

ASH from Nabro to 1900

Nabro ASH (last 10 images) Video_2011-06-14_203743.wmv

Not sure what the white is. It appears to come from the volcano but is not like the dark ash cloud.

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That area is very rich in salt (Salt trade). To the East, about 80 km is a salt lake - more salty than Dead Sea. The rift valley around TatAli is generally below sea level and AWFULLY HOT. Very possible that there is strong lava flow Westerly direction and the lava igniting the salt. Volcanic Sulphur deposits to North and East (The Arabs used to collect Sulphur from there for their gun powder). Lava on Sulphur will burn blue and very hot.

That all said - we can't be sure of anything until physical reports come in; the people (Geologists) that are more likely around there at present would definitely not be thinking about our thirst of knowledge. They will camp there and 'enjoy life'!

I would expect the ash/smoke for this volcano to be very poisonous for humans and animals. It looks like there might be rain showers over Ethiopia and Sudan in coming few days; maybe we will hear if those are very acidic.

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Latest Ash images from Nabro

NabroAshVideo_2011-06-15_181410.wmv

Originally posted by alysha.angel

Originally posted by SkipperJohn
reply to post by Anmarie96

 

You know I had a dream of this Toba volcano erupting. I posted it here on ats and did not remember the name. I remembered it sounded like a wind instrument and when you said the name that was it. I am not much on volcano's and not much dreamer.

excuse moi but TOBA can not erupt before yellowstone erupts i simply WILL NOT ALLOW IT ..

And Yellowstone is NOT allowed to blow up before next spring! I want my husband to make it safely to his family (me and his kids) in MN from WA next March!!!! So please hold off on any Yellowstone eruptions until then...lol...THanks!

Around 22h00 UTC Nabro volcano had a new outburst corresponding to a big strong cloud of hot ash.
Notices on sat24.com in Infrared. Still an hour before daybreak when we can see what the photo shows.

This SAT photo clearly shows the NABRO volcano, in relation to Dubbi and other land marks.
Also shows the ash cloud soon after the latest outburst.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/f98772c311bc.jpg[/atsimg]

This shows where the exact vent seems to be; probbaly the same as caused lava flow somewhere between 6,000 and 7,500 years ago.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/d305f6b788bd.jpg[/atsimg]

In relation to photos below and others not shown here I observe:

NABRO volcano had an increased activity with quite a serious explosive event around 04h00 as per previous post above. That ash cloud seems to have gone above 10,000 m again. Comparing this two photos average speed of Ash cloud must be around 220 km per hour West-North-West. Should cover Khartoum in Sudan by about 13h00 UTC.

By the looks of thinks NABRO seems to settle for a long smoking session; les known, not understood at all and angry because such ignorance. NABRO is going to make the world know about him; that is for 100% sure.

In NABRO does not stop smoking in the next three days this will be the scenario: He will probably not jam the air traffic to much, but with wind directions this past four days, NABRO is definitely going to cool the Sahara down - and THAT is definitely going to change the world climate.

Google Earth with 'Primary Database/Weather/Cloud ticked' the ash cloud is updated now.
I wanted to compare with Chile volcano, but it seems the ash from there is dissipating?


Photo top LEFT = Infra Red at 09h15 UTC; on the RIGHT is Infra Red 2 hours later: 11h15
INFRA RED (IR) show the HOT portion of the Ash cloud.
The bottom photo is a False colour composition from MODIS satelite at 09h30

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/331809e1b99a.jpg[/atsimg]

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News from "IrishWeatherOnline" with some nice Pics.

Nabro Volcano Eruption Intensifies, Ash Cloud Shifts West

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and THAT is definitely going to change the world climate

In what way will this affect the world climate? Are we talking colder, warmer, windier etc - you get my drift. How will this affect other areas - Amazon etc?

Just asking as maybe some are not aware of the potential effects of cooling the Sahara.

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Anyone know if HAARP can affect a volcano? For example, say the volcano is active but been calm for thousands of years. Does HAARP have the capability to make it have a major eruption? Anyone out there have a answer? Thanks.

Yellowstone showing volcanic activity on RSOE emergency map. 11th supervolcanoe to show activity in 6 months!!

Originally posted by johnstaulder68
reply to post by alysha.angel

 

Anyone know if HAARP can affect a volcano? For example, say the volcano is active but been calm for thousands of years. Does HAARP have the capability to make it have a major eruption? Anyone out there have a answer? Thanks.

HAARP is a radio transmitter and receiver; only with the additional ability to generate directional signals.
It is kind of comparable to a radio station which you can only send and receive on one side 20 km from the station;
ratrher than the usual 360 degree.

HAARP can only trigger a pending effect; thus it is possible;
But it has to be a confluence of ether and terra signals; AND that would be near impossible to pin-point.

BUT we get much more HAARP like energy beams from our Sun;
even Jupiter like coming 3 months Sept-Nov when we are between Sun and Jupiter.

To answer your real question: NO, NO! HAARP is NOT possibly responsible for Nabro; nor Puyehue.

New Video of the Kamchatka Volcanoe(s) in Russia (?)




Here is one from the Sakurajima in Japan from May 30th (incase we missed it) Pretty neat to see how it suddenly exploded (38 Seconds in)




And here is a Link to a Article on a Blog which might be interesting for PuterMan.

Dutchsinse.com

SUPER VOLCANO ERUPTION !!!!

What is a volcanic eruption?
"The sudden occurrence of a violent discharge of steam and/or solid volcanic material"
Another more accurate detail;
"The release of gas, ash, molten materials, or hot water into the atmosphere or onto the Earth's surface from an opening in the Earth's surface."

A volcano is not a matter of nothing or everything. Most of the Supervolcano's around the world has all the time smaller eruptions. Nabro is a very big volcano and this latest eruption was only new vents on portions of the volcano, not the whole caldera. Call it Fractional Eruption.

YELLOWSTONE has actually erupted and it is still erupting on this day. All those water geysers you see are in fact minor eruptions. On some locations there are 'recent' lava flows - those are much younger than 642,000 years; but were not part of an super eruption. At present Yellowstone has two domes: Mallard and Sour Creek; so eruption of both at the same time is unlikely. Geological studies gave this eruption numbers:
a) Major cataclysmic eruptions = 1 or 2 per million years
b) Minor eruptions, lava flow = more than 100 per million years
c) Small hydrothermal eruptions = 20 to 200 per 100 years

If I hear on the news " Yellowstone has erupted " I will first ask "How Big" before I get excited.
It is like this post; when you see the heading you were probbaly excited; after reading you are maybe angry at me?
Unless there are major changes on earth leading up to a major eruption at yellowston, I do not think we are going to see that volcano erupting in this coming 10,000 years - as long as our current human history on earth.

Originally posted by PuterMan
reply to post by Aromaz

 

and THAT is definitely going to change the world climate

In what way will this affect the world climate? Are we talking colder, warmer, windier etc - you get my drift. How will this affect other areas - Amazon etc?

Just asking as maybe some are not aware of the potential effects of cooling the Sahara.

It looks like NABRO went quiet since about 11h00 UTC on 16 June. There were two small quakes, one at depth of about 8 km and another 1.83 km; these probably closed the magma pipe; ash stopped soon after that.

Answer to your question is a long one; I will try to keep it short, but . . . Heck, I re-write this answer three times already! It would take a few hours of lecture! This is a very simplified basic condensed descriptions - just to get the general idea.

The Sahara is often seen as the Driving Force of atmospheric movement around the world. It is the pulsating HEART of the world. During the day the desert gets hot very quickly, reach to 50 deg C; at night temperature drops rapidly often below 0 deg C. This causes the pulse - temperature fluctuation on average 35 to 50 deg C. When I refer here to Sahara I actually mean the Greater Sahara that also includes all of Northern Africa. In effect the Sahara radiate/ejects hot air in day time (Expansion) and sucks air interior (Contraction) during the night time. Hot expands, cold contracts.

The general atmospheric movement is East to West; thus over a period of about four to ten days the wind from the Sahara reaches the shores of the Americas; over the Atlantic. During the months of June to September this hot air from the Sahara causes the onset of the North America Monsoon. AND the formation of hurricanes over the Atlantic Ocean. This wind/atmosphere action is a result of the Intertropical Convergence Zone' ICZ

As for Europe; during the period June to September the increased flow of air from N-Africa Westwards sucks 'feeding' air in from Europe in the North and Africa on the South. This causes air flow from polar regions towards the Equator - this cool moist air gives rainfall in Africa and Europe.

If NABRO was going to spew more ash into the high atmosphere;
and as per recent few days that ash cloud remain mostly over Northern Africa
it will cause cooling down in day and even night temperatures over the Sahara desert.
In effect it will be like the HEART of the world gets ineffective, lazy, fluttering.
The Atlantic hurricane season will be low, meaning low rainfalls in Southern USA and Northern parts of S-America. Temperature will drop over Europe, not much of fronts for rain - even more dry conditions.

To some extend we do have this happening at the moment and if we do consider the Grimsvotn volcano, Eyjafjallakull and St Helens all placing large amounts of ash in the higher atmosphere during this past year - that already did have cooling effect around Equatorial regions - including the Sahara. Now we add Chile to the Southern Hemisphere . . . the picture is looking somewhat grim for coming years.

YES, I am aware there are all the time volcano's erupting all over the world but; this past 18 months we had VERY explosive kind of eruptions, large amounts of Ash and Sulphur blowing high (above 8,000 meters) into the air. Ash will reduce solar radiation, cool down and Sulphur also reflects solar rays but worse it is acidic.