Volcano watch 2011

Haven't seen this posted yet:

2011 Phreatic eruption
Gas emissions from Dieng volcano in central Java has forced the evacuation of 1200 residents in June 2011. On 28th May 2011 there was a sudden increase in carbon dioxide emissions at Timbang. On the 29th May there was a felt earthquake at the volcano followed by shallow seismic activity. This corresponded to a phreatic eruption at Timbang crater. Dead birds were found near the crater. People are advised to remain at least 1 km from Timbang crater. The alert status hat the volcano has been raised to level 3 (Siaga) out of a maximum 4.

Central Java, Indonesia

7.2 S, 109.9 E,
summit elevation 2565 m
Complex Volcano

Dieng volcano complex is located in the central highlands of Java, Indonesia.

For several centuries volcanic activity at Dieng has been dominated by phreatic eruptions, and geothermal activity (fumaroles, solfataras, mud pools, hot springs). Dieng volcano is noted for the release of carbon dioxide, which sometimes results in fatalities to residents. Carbon dioxide emission can destroy the surrounding vegetation and local people are aware of "death valleys".

Link: Info

reply to post by boo1981

Dieng volcano is noted for the release of carbon dioxide, which sometimes results in fatalities to residents. Carbon dioxide emission can destroy the surrounding vegetation and local people are aware of "death valleys".

(From your Volcano Live link)

I had heard about the lakes in Africa (Nyos etc) but I was not aware of this one. Mammoth Mountain has this problem, connected to Horseshoe Lake.

Get a look at this one from 2006 National Geographic - Carbon Lakes

Santiago, June 4 .- Some 600 people were evacuated on Saturday in the vicinity of a volcano in southern Chile, after the government declared a red alert to the possibility of an eruption in the midst of repeated low-intensity earthquakes in the area. In the last six hours have been over 60 earthquakes of magnitudes greater than 4 degrees on the Mercalli scale in Puyehue volcanic complex, near the city of Puerto Montt. "The National Service of Geology and Mining reported that the seismic process in the volcanic complex indicates the possibility of an eruption in the coming hours," said a statement from the National Emergency Office (ONEMI), which declared a red alert in the nearby areas . However, there is still no warning of volcanic eruption.

I saw this via a twitter feed. It is originally in Spanish but I used google translator for it.

It goes on to say that it hasn't erupted but they expect it to so they are evacuating people to be safe.

Well that is good to hear, better to be safe than sorry.
source (in spanish)

An increase to 3500 evacuees now.

The National Emergency Office Home Office (Onemi) declared a red alert for the municipalities of Rio Bueno, Lago Ranco and Futrono (Region de Los Rios) and Puyehue (Lakes Region), by increased seismic activity of the complex Puyehue-Cordón volcanic Caulle. Added to this is to be closed temporarily Paso Zamora Cardinal International. Rodrigo Hinzpeter, Vice President, said "these are measures to protect people and avoid a major disgrace."

source Chile volcano alert

Here are some pics of the ash plume
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a2106f23466e.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e5ab2e01b907.jpg[/atsimg]
picture source

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
An increase to 3500 evacuees now.

The National Emergency Office Home Office (Onemi) declared a red alert for the municipalities of Rio Bueno, Lago Ranco and Futrono (Region de Los Rios) and Puyehue (Lakes Region), by increased seismic activity of the complex Puyehue-Cordón volcanic Caulle. Added to this is to be closed temporarily Paso Zamora Cardinal International. Rodrigo Hinzpeter, Vice President, said "these are measures to protect people and avoid a major disgrace."

source Chile volcano alert

Here are some pics of the ash plume
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a2106f23466e.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/e5ab2e01b907.jpg[/atsimg]
picture source

edit on 6/4/2011 by mblahnikluver because: add pictures

nice find thank you thank you,,,,,

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Here is an English version of the news.

wireupdate.com...

quote
"The National Emergency Office says it has recorded an average of 230 tremors an hour."
unquote
Some DATA to check. ~230/Hr (Depth)= Eruption Event
not that easy.

Any ideas for this volcano annomoly?

www.igepn.edu.ec...

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This appeared last night just before their sun set and is still on the camera this morning it hasn't moved or changed shape. It is not on the camera and to high up to be a car. Could be some kind of flood light? There is a tower more to the centre here. The answer is, I don't know.

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Concerning the Chile Eruption,the Commentary on this Article might be interesting.

Authorities initially said the Puyehue volcano was involved, but later said the eruption was occurring about 2 1/2 miles (four kilometers) from that peak. A rift more than six miles (10 kilometers) long and three miles (five kilometers) across was torn in the earth’s crust, officials said Saturday night.

What do you think?

Just a quick question to the ATS experts.

How many volcanic eruptions have happened so far this year? I know PuterMan must have a nice chart for me to ponder over???

Other things which may be worth a second look:

Quake hits Tagaytay (near the Taal Volcano - isn´t that the same where alot of Fish died just recently?)

and

CO2 From Dieng Three Times Higher Than Safe Level (Indonesia)

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The Chilean authorities do not seem to be getting too wound up about things

The Government stated that no change in the behavior of the eruptive activity of Puyehue volcanic complex - Lanyard Caulle, and that it is maintained at a moderate eruption. Las extensiones siguen siendo 10 kilómetros de alto y cinco kilómetros de ancho. The extensions are still 10 kilometers high and five kilometers wide.

Link to Google Translate version of the source

Smithsonian don't even bother to mention it on the GVP home page.

]url=http://bigthink.com/ideas/38731]Erik Klemetti[/url] does not seem to be getting worried either.

I gather this is a known eruption site.

I will not take any notice of anything that scaremongering site The Extinction Protocol has to say. They are in it to sell books.

In 2010, we saw the most volcanic eruptions in recorded history

Oh yes? I note they don't make any attempt to prove their statement. Everywhere you go on that site you see this sort of BS

“Earth is a pressurized ball of magma…if you keep seismically shaking the Earth like a bottle of soda, its structural integrity will eventually become compromised and it will start to fracture like an egg. In this case, the fracturing will be thermal dissipation by hyper-volcanism, mega-thrust earthquakes, and greater tectonic boundary agitation around volcanic arcs and subduction zones.” -The Extinction Protocol, page 564

Buy our book, buy our book. Learn all about the mega-destruction doom ELE scenarios.

My comment on their article?

Cojones.

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Edit: Oops, forgot to answer your question: Volcanoes erupting in 2011

I guess this does not include Grimsvotn but i don't know. There were 38 volcanoes that had confirmed eruptions during this time is what they say.

2010: There were 69 volcanoes that had confirmed eruptions during this time.
2009: There were 68 volcanoes that had confirmed eruptions during this time.
2008: There were 78 volcanoes that had confirmed eruptions during this time.
2007: There were 72 volcanoes that had confirmed eruptions during this time.
2006: There were 76 volcanoes that had confirmed eruptions during this time.

OK, I think I proved my point. The Extinction Protocol statement is as I said, BS.

No nice chart yet

I am working on one and it started off with this site as the basis, however I am not happy with their data in terms of up-to-dateness and it is reporting activity whereas I wanted one that reports eruptions.

There will be one soon (eventually)

This below is a sample of what it might look like. I am hoping to have eruptive days in the cells so I can total the days for a year and the years for a volcano. I am hoping to take it back to.................?? 0 AD perhaps ??

reply to post by PuterMan


Don´t be too quick to dismiss everything they post,because most of it is from other News Sources. And you´re right,they are trying to sell their Book,but even when this is the Case,you shouldn´t be too quick to dismiss others Ideas...because if you do that,you are starting to become like every other Mainstream "Scientist" out there who hates everyone who disagrees with their established Theory.

Think about it a little,please

Edit for above Post: You are good at making Quake Graphs and all that Stuff,but you seem to have forgotten what i suggested last Time concerning those.

You can´t just look at the (confirmed) amount of Volcanos which erupted in each Year and say "its all normal". Come on,youre better than this,aren´t you? If a VEI 8 erupted,those Numbers wouln´t mean #. Or would you say last Year was normal? Wasn´t there some Icelandic Volcano that forced alot of People to stay on the Ground?

I´m suggesting something you do with Quake Data/Graphs regulary. For example,the Strenght of the Eruptions each Year,and the amount of Material that got out. This could tell us if the pressure inside the Earth is increasing,or decreasing,or something along those Lines.

Concering Earthquakes,i don´t think you ever answered to one of my Questions,on why you don´t include the Depth/Magnitude - Ratio to determine the "True" Strenght of an Earthquake. For example,a 9.0 in 10km Depth is a little stronger than a 9.0 in 400km Depth,wouln´t you say? Sure,they release the same amount of Energy on you pretty little Graphs and Diagrams (i like those btw,no offense),but tell those to the People in Christchurch,where the smaller/shallower Quake killed more People than the stronger/deeper one...I hope you know where i´m coming from,this Time.


Sorry for the Rant,but your "Amount of Volcanos that erupted each Year" Numbers just hit pissed me off a little. Each Volcano is different in Strenght,so those Numbers you posted mean little,in my Opinion.

And someone has to remind you now and then to continue with an open Mind (and you seem to be starting to lose that,lately)

reply to post by PuterMan


Thank you for getting back to me. I read somewhere that on avarage we have 70 volcanic eruptions per year? If I am wrong please correct me (I will try to find the source of this and edit my post to show a link)

I noticed in the your post that years 2006 and 2008 had above 70 eruptions. But last year was just under at 68. So I think your right, there is no increase. I think that due to the internet we can find out what is happening anywhere in the world so it looks like a lot is going on. When infact its normal.

So this year there have been 38 eruptions so far. Would you say that 38 eruptions is a lot in the space of 5 months or normal?

P.S Shame about the chart, but I will be happy to wait for you to do one

EDIT: I have found the site in question. I did get part of it right. It is 50-70 per year.

Here is some text from Global Volcanism Program

How many active volcanoes known?

Erupting now:
perhaps 20

Each year:
50-70

Each decade:
about 160

Historical eruptions:
about 550

Known Holocene eruptions (last 10,000 years):
about 1300

Known (and possible) Holocene eruptions:
about 1500


Note that these figures do not include the large number of eruptions (and undescribed volcanoes) on the deep sea floor. Estimates of global magma budgets suggest that roughly 3/4 of the lava reaching Earth's surface does so unnoticed at submarine midocean ridges (see below).

The answer to this common question depends upon use of the word "active." At least 20 volcanoes will probably be erupting as you read these words (Italy's Stromboli, for example, has been erupting for more than a thousand years); roughly 60 erupted each year through the 1990s; 154 in the full decade 1990-1999; about 550 have had historically documented eruptions; about 1300 (and perhaps more than 1500) have erupted in the Holocene (past 10,000 years); and some estimates of young seafloor volcanoes exceed a million.

reply to post by Shenon

Don´t be too quick to dismiss everything they post,because most of it is from other News Sources. And you´re right,they are trying to sell their Book,but even when this is the Case,you shouldn´t be too quick to dismiss others Ideas...because if you do that,you are starting to become like every other Mainstream "Scientist" out there who hates everyone who disagrees with their established Theory.

I should have thought by now that you would have realised that I am very open to other theories - when they have some reasonable basis for the hypothesis. If you don't realise that then go to the Geophysics thread and see the ideas that I like to entertain. Electric Universe etc, even expanding earth and surge tectonics.

If someone has an idea I will look at it. What I will not look at is pseudo-babble pumped out for the purpose of selling a book, is that OK?

Edit for above Post: You are good at making Quake Graphs and all that Stuff,but you seem to have forgotten what i suggested last Time concerning those.

You can´t just look at the (confirmed) amount of Volcanos which erupted in each Year and say "its all normal". Come on,youre better than this,aren´t you? If a VEI 8 erupted,those Numbers wouln´t mean #. Or would you say last Year was normal? Wasn´t there some Icelandic Volcano that forced alot of People to stay on the Ground?

Did I actually say "it's all normal"? I think I just gave the numbers.

Yes last year was normal. Eyjafjallajokull was not an abnormal eruption at all. The fact that some humans were not able to fly has absolutely no bearing on the normality of the eruption. Note that Grimsvotn ejected to a much greater height, and I believe more material than Eyja. 10,000 tons of ash a second at the start of the eruption. I don't have a VEI figure for it yet.

If a VEI 8 eruption occurred we would not be on the Internet

Why are you saying I am not looking far enough when it is me that has introduced the use of energy release as a measure of earthquakes as opposed to numbers, something that people here did not do before - and this is beginning to be seen out on the internet as well.

I´m suggesting something you do with Quake Data/Graphs regulary. For example,the Strenght of the Eruptions each Year,and the amount of Material that got out. This could tell us if the pressure inside the Earth is increasing,or decreasing,or something along those Lines.

I agree with you as far as the amount of ejecta being a measure for the year and I am working on it. Those volcano numbers were not mine, they came from Smithsonian. Anyway I still do not see any reasoning from that site as to why 2010 had the most volcanic activity in recorded history. That is just plain and simple nonsense.

As far as the 'pressure' inside the Earth is concerned I think you have been reading too much of the pseudo-science on that site. The pressure in the earth is similar to the pressure in the oceans, that is to say it is from the weight of water, or material above. Do the oceans try and burst out? The statement made in that article was "This is telling us a most important piece of information- there are not enough terrestrial volcanoes on land to equilibrate the geological pressures now unsettling the ground." makes it patently obvious that they have not got a clue what they are talking about. For a start most of the material ejected is under the sea so I am afraid his reasoning is flawed.

Concering Earthquakes,i don´t think you ever answered to one of my Questions,on why you don´t include the Depth/Magnitude - Ratio to determine the "True" Strenght of an Earthquake. For example,a 9.0 in 10km Depth is a little stronger than a 9.0 in 400km Depth,wouln´t you say? Sure,they release the same amount of Energy on you pretty little Graphs and Diagrams (i like those btw,no offense),but tell those to the People in Christchurch,where the smaller/shallower Quake killed more People than the stronger/deeper one...I hope you know where i´m coming from,this Time.

Yes I know what you are saying. It is not the strength of the earthquake however it is the effect of the earthquake. The depth/magnitude ratio is NOT a measure of the true strength. A 9.0 at 10km depth is exactly the same strength as a 9.0 at 400km. The results of course would be radically different. If we take this to more realistic level then as an example a 6.0 in Alaska would be very considerably less devastating than a 6.0 in Mexico City - not only because there is a much greater population at risk, but because the geology of the two areas is completely different. Mexico City is much like Christchurch in terms of effects sustained. Is the Sun stronger than the largest star? No, not by a long long unimaginable way, but by your reasoning it is since we feel the effects of the Sun and not of the largest start in the Universe

This is where the peak ground velocity and peak ground acceleration come in, and these are the measure of the 'strength' of an earthquake in terms of potential effects, but not of energy release. That is the same wherever the earthquake occurs. Obviously when looking at global or near global figures you cannot take PGV and PGA into account because of the wide disparity of the areas in question.

Sorry for the Rant,but your "Amount of Volcanos that erupted each Year" Numbers just hit pissed me off a little. Each Volcano is different in Strenght,so those Numbers you posted mean little,in my Opinion.

As I said, not my numbers. By the way if you think the numbers mean little, and as I said I do in some ways agree, why don't YOU do the numbers for the volumes of material?. Why does it have to be me and a few others doing all the running? See if you can prove that "In 2010, we saw the most volcanic eruptions in recorded history " as stated on that site.

By the way one of the problems of that is for example Arenal and similar. Where do you find annual VEI figures for those volcanoes? Arenal started erupting in 1968 and (may have) ended in 2010. The figure for VEI is given as 3. Does that sound likely? I don't know. Eyja was VEI 4. (I would also point out that all these things take up much time and what you are asking takes even more time. It cannot happen overnight. I do have other things to attend to as well as ATS.)

And someone has to remind you now and then to continue with an open Mind (and you seem to be starting to lose that,lately)

I can assure I am not!

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Thanks for your Answers. Its enough for me if you at least think about it.

Concerning the Pressure inside the Earth increasing and decreasing ,i thought about the Expanding Earth Theory,or that the Earth has a Sun like Core ("Plasmacore" or something like that),which "creates" Material and "sends" it trough the Crust until it is ejected with the help of Volcanos,and releases further Pressure trough Earthquakes (like the Sun does with CME´s) I would even go further and suggest that our Core reacts to the Sun´s Cycles.

Though i lack the Knowledge to write that down in Detail,and this would go a little OffTopic

Edit: And you might be interested in watching this ATS Thread . Lets see if it turns out to be true or not. If it does,i would say our little Planet might experience a Growth Spurt

reply to post by Shenon

I would even go further and suggest that our Core reacts to the Sun´s Cycles.

This may indeed be so. This link takes you to the last post in the Geophysics thread hosted by Zenius. This is the place for further discussion rather than here as you correctly say.

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The original picture was linked to a "on-going" snap shot,,, my bad,,, the anomoly no longer their,, i should have taken screen capture,, my bad.