More evangelists appointed to Lords, Christians desperate to force their delusion upon my children

reply to post by lestweforget

Your own non christian delusions are doing more to harm your poor children than a christian will ever do.

My children aren't poor my friend they're very happy pretty well adjusted individuals enjoying their childhood . They have no fear of invisible men monitoring their thoughts for wrong thinking and don't pretend to hear the voices of spirits or demons.

It is a christians duty to inform the unbelievers that there is more than just what your eyes can show you.

So sad that not only fail to provide any evidence of this but the way they live does not not appear to support the claim.

Jesus loves you!

Which jesus ?

reply to post by imjustlikeyou

What happens if the OPs belief is wrong.....what if there is a God ?.

Christ mate let's hope not eh, especially the yawhe /jesus godman thing. If I absolutely had to have a personal go I'd opt for Kate Bush.

Maybe Atheists can open up their own private schools exclusively for there own children to be taught about Atheism.

Did you actually give any thought to that before you typed ?

The Atheists would have to fund it themselves though. No sponging of the majority of tax payers who are Christian.

Well around here my friend the majority are NOT christian so no doubt you have no problem with the same rule being applied ?

No more dictating to public schools about how they should be run as per your beliefs.

Er, it seems that you are ill informed, atheism is not a belief system my friend, perhaps you would have benefited from secular education after all then .

I would really like this as my kids could then celebrate all the Christian things at their school that were taken away from them by the jumping up and down of Atheists.

Nothing has ever been taken away from christians, you've just been prevented from shoving your delusion down other peoples throats and hiding in their bedrooms.

Atheists have always been the haters of the world.

The bottom of your intellectual barrel been reached now has it ?

reply to post by bogomil


Haha, no, that was sarcasm. I have no desire to embrace apostate Christianity to be embraced by the world.

But if you really want to become housebroken in liberal society..

Nope, no desire.

Re NoturTypical:

You wrote:

"I have no desire to embrace apostate Christianity to be embraced by the world."


My suggestion was actually, that you could "embrace apostate fascism". You may have missed that point in my extensive and complex three-line comment.

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

you must really not know how America got it's start ? I suggest some world history books for you..

Bunch of christians find some prime real estate a heap of gold and decide to move in asap, rape pillage torture and kill the locals, turn the remnant into god fearing jesus zombies and call the place gods country?

How's that ? history 101

Originally posted by bogomil
Re NoturTypical:

You wrote:

"I have no desire to embrace apostate Christianity to be embraced by the world."


My suggestion was actually, that you could "embrace apostate fascism". You may have missed that point in my extensive and complex three-line comment.

edit on 6-12-2010 by bogomil because: always room for improvement

Go back and re-read my post. My premise was on "apostate Christianity".

The fact that I refused to dignify your appeal to ridicule fallacy didn't mean I never read it.

reply to post by The Djin


Im not sure why your so emphatic about your fear of these people. Have they forced you to attend their services? Have they set up a legal system with in your government that appoints judges and establishes courts to preside over cases, ruling under their religious beliefs only...outside of the government authority? Are you being arrested for not accepting their "christian" teachings and being jailed or sentenced to death?

Hmmm...again not sure what you are so upset about.

Granted, christianity has a few big black eyes in it's 2000 year history, but for the most part your country's christian heritage has been not only benificial to your nation but to others as well including mine.

Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger.

reply to post by Rockstrongo37

Im not sure why your so emphatic about your fear of these people. Have they forced you to attend their services?

Yes

Have they set up a legal system with in your government that appoints judges and establishes courts to preside over cases, ruling under their religious beliefs only...outside of the government authority?

Their trying damn hard to bring it back

. . . . . when Cherie Booth QC (also known as Cherie Blair wife of PM Tony Blair) — acting in her role as judge — made her now-infamous remark in court to Shamso Miah that she would not be sending him to prison despite the fact that he attacked a man for no apparent reason and broke his jaw. Recorder Booth told Mr Miah that he was being given a suspended sentence because he was “a religious man” who knew what he did was wrong.

Are you being arrested for not accepting their "christian" teachings and being jailed or sentenced to death?

Fortunately people like me helped to put a stop to that shoe's on the other foot at the moment, I gather they're still getting away with some of it in the US ?

for the most part your country's christian heritage has been not only benificial to your nation but to others as well including mine.

And how exactly, was forced christianity beneficial to my country that was doing quite fine without it ? By the way do you actually know where my country is ?

Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger.

Thank you very much for your advice, but I'm quite able to get all I need to from the exact same place as the christians ie the bibles, perhaps you would do well to study them yourself a little before defending the deluded.

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger.

here is a few good ones for to start with...





I really like the first one, it has good information for all.

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37
reply to post by The Djin

 

Im not sure why your so emphatic about your fear of these people. Have they forced you to attend their services? Have they set up a legal system with in your government that appoints judges and establishes courts to preside over cases, ruling under their religious beliefs only...outside of the government authority? Are you being arrested for not accepting their "christian" teachings and being jailed or sentenced to death?

That system does exists in the United States and there are several supreme court cases which uphold a judges "right" to decide a case based on personal conviction alone. Specifically:

As early as 1872, the Court recognized that it was "a general principle of the highest importance to the proper administration of justice that a judicial officer, in exercising the authority vested in him, [should] be free to act upon his own convictions, w/o apprehension of personal consequences to himself.

Bradley v. Fisher, supra, at 347
"judges of courts of superior or general jurisdiction are not liable to civil actions for their judicial acts, even when such acts are in excess of their jurisdiction, & are alleged to have been done maliciously or corruptly." 13 Wall., at 351. Later we held that this doctrine of judicial immunity was applicable in suits under § 1 of the Civil Rights Act of 1871, 42 U.S.C. § 1983, for the legislative record gave no indication that Congress intended to abolish this long-established principle. " Pierson v. Ray, 386 U.S. 547 (1967).

This means that it is legal under US law for a judge to base their decision on their religious convictions alone and if the outcome of the case is unjust, then the injured party has no recourse for action. This is disgusting.

Hmmm...again not sure what you are so upset about.

Granted, christianity has a few big black eyes in it's 2000 year history, but for the most part your country's christian heritage has been not only benificial to your nation but to others as well including mine.

Oh, a few, then? Really? The inquisition, Puritans, witch burnings, slavery and later segregation (both of which were rigorously defended as being based in Christian principles at the time, and are still referenced by white supremacists and slave traders today. Oh, let's see...there must be more, oh yeah, homophobia and gay burnings in Africa. What positive benefits do you see? Should we ask the folks in Uganda who are scared for their lives of being burned alive as a witch or homosexual about how beneficial Christianity has been after having been implemented in their governing structure?

Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger.

Surely you mean "re-educate" You guys would probably gladly set up re-education and internment camps for the unsaved wouldn't you? You already have in the States....Jesus Camp? Most homeless shelters? That's a brainwashing facility if I've ever seen one. MK-Ultra can't even compete with that kind of brainwashing.

Re Rockstrongo37

You wrote:

"Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger."

Have you READ this thread? Or do you just on general principles mean, that people disagreeing with you, per definition must be un-informed?

E.g. as believing in a heliocentric system, or that Bishop Ussher after all was wrong. (For the record: Bishop Ussher is NOT a blogger).

Originally posted by The DjinSo tell me,how exactly is christianity so much different to Islam ?

Before I start, your name "The Djin" raises an eyebrow...

But anyways, to answer your question:

Beheadings
Stoning
Intolerance towards gays/other religions often ending up in one of the two previously mentioned reasons
The barbaric views on women
Cutting off a thieves hands
Honor killings

Need I continue? I can already tell that you're feverishly reading through this so you can type, "But Christians did this too!" You're right, they did. I.e. they no longer do it. Unlike Islam. Christianity isn't that much older then Islam, yet look at how different they are today.

I welcome you to go to a Catholic country. Then an Islamic country. Then you tell me "what's the difference" between Islam and Christianity.

Re Frontkjemper

You wrote (about how much 'better' christianity is compared to islam, which does following):

"Beheadings
Stoning
Intolerance towards gays/other religions often ending up in one of the two previously mentioned reasons
The barbaric views on women
Cutting off a thieves hands
Honor killings"

OT still commands all of this (except the cutting off hands), and the only reason fascist christians aren't following these commandments, is because society would be down like a ton of bricks on them, if they tried. Remember the problems about rooting out KKK?

And have you read the posts from people, who have seen the new christian inspired atrocities in Africa?

And in any case, even if there are greater bigots and fascists than you in the world, how can this justify christian aspirations of theocracy?

Will you and the other 5 norwegians of your ilk topple norwegian democracy, with arabs as an excuse?

reply to post by Frontkjemper

Beheadings Stoning Intolerance towards gays/other religions often ending up in one of the two previously mentioned reasons The barbaric views on women Cutting off a thieves hands Honor killings Need I continue? I can already tell that you're feverishly reading through this so you can type, "But Christians did this too!" You're right, they did. I.e. they no longer do it. Unlike Islam. Christianity isn't that much older then Islam, yet look at how different they are today.

Indeed let's see, I suppose a lot depends on that they can get away with, the instruction manual they give to children is a repugnant as ever so no change there.

I welcome you to go to a Catholic country. Then an Islamic country. Then you tell me "what's the difference" between Islam and Christianity

The Cross and the Genocide afrol News, 20 September 2002 -
The 1994 Rwandan genocide, killing an estimated 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus, is made even more incomprehensible by the documented participation of many representatives of Rwandan church societies. How could God fearing nuns, and even a bishop, take part in the most cruel crimes against humanity committed on African soil? Even worse, several church societies allegedly were co-responsible for the growing hatred that led to the genocide. It remains an enormous contradiction to the Christian Message of Love.

The stories force the reader to imagine what it would be like to learn about suicide for the first time when a 10-year-old boy hangs himself in the basement of your school. Or for nuns to come into your room at night to rape you, or to strangle you and the other kids until you black out, just for entertainment.

The stories force the reader to reflect upon how it would feel now, decades later, to see those same nuns in the grocery store of your tiny community. And then to go home to your family only to beat them and pass on the abuse you learned as a child, because it's the only thing you knew growing u

"I swear by God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German state and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath."

canadiangenocide.nativeweb.org...

Hitler, a Roman Catholic, was never excommunicated for causing the death of millions; whereas Martin Luther was excommunicated for criticism of the papal system.

On March 12, 2000 Pope John Paul II attempted to purify the soul of the Catholic Church by apologising for 2000 years of "sins" committed by the church – quite some compensation for twenty centuries of terrorism, extortion and murder! And yet – September 2000 – the same John Paul II issues "Dominus Jesus (Lord Jesus)", reaffirming intolerance: "Only one path to God – the Roman Catholic Church."

reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37 Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger. here is a few good ones for to start with...

According to that video - "He [Moses] wrote these things down on parchment just like this - - - - "

Now dude if that is shown to children then it's an outright lie! (not unusual for christians) there is no evidence that moses even existed let alone wandered around a wasteland for 40 years with 300000 to 2 million escaped bonded slaves.

reply to post by The Djin


Moses wrote down a great many things, not just the famous 10 "thou shalt nots." Like this Book of Magick:
THE SWORD OF MOSES AN ANCIENT BOOK OF MAGIC did you know that the word, "Abracadabra" is an ancient Magick work from Moses, is was said to reduce fever, you say the whole word, then leave off a letter with each saying until jut one letter remains.
I believe Moses was a Sumerian and was favored by ENIL and ENKI, and was the leader of a group of Mercenaries charged with protecting the Egyptian people. The Bible story has Moses and his army "well armed."

Originally posted by The Djin
reply to post by Cosmic.Artifact

 

Originally posted by Rockstrongo37 Purhaps you need to educate yourself to the facts about the christian religion and not simply develop an opinion based upon some imflamitory accusations you probably heard in some meeting or words from some blogger. here is a few good ones for to start with...

According to that video - "He [Moses] wrote these things down on parchment just like this - - - - "

Now dude if that is shown to children then it's an outright lie! (not unusual for christians) there is no evidence that moses even existed let alone wandered around a wasteland for 40 years with 300000 to 2 million escaped bonded slaves.

HAHA, oh really now?

Mountain of Fire

reply to post by The Djin


Prov 14:34
"Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people."

reply to post by autowrench

I believe Moses was a Sumerian and was favored by ENIL and ENKI, and was the leader of a group of Mercenaries charged with protecting the Egyptian people. The Bible story has Moses and his army "well armed."

Although I'm not unwilling to engage with you in discussion of this very interesting subject including moses being a remnant of elArmana priesthood or a claimant the Pharonic throne etc. I think we could perhaps both agree what moses doesn't appear to have been and that's a fully fledged jew buddy of the yahweh god wandering around the desert for 40 years.

I recall the armed men to have been 300000 in number, so they could not possibly have been poor bonded slaves. If even that figure is correct then it cause a huge problem with Egyptian infrastructure as her population around the time has been estimated at 3 million.

Anyhoo I don't want to go too far off topic suffice to say the bibles talk BS about an exodus of huge volumes protojew slaves and one Moses being their governor.

Re Texastig

You wrote:

Prov 14:34
"Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people."


The books of Bogomil 1:1:
"Anyone uncritically citing this present bogo-verse, known as Bog 1:1, hereby is qualified as an unparalled idiot, incapable of doing his/her own thinking."

Fearing being labeled as a heretic by our resident head-hunter(s), I must point out, that there are no similarities or imitations between the bible-verses and the bogo-verses. They are rather competitors on the soulfishing-market, and I must INSIST, that bogo-verses become a compulsary part of public education and function as political guidelines.

Doubters of this request are free to express their opposition (though by doing so they victimize me), but must be prepared to be stoned or burned at sight.

Signed: The Bogomilian liberation army (members presently one, but we expect to grow to 200 billions in the next ten years, because we are both very optimistic and natural-born liars).