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Originally posted by mryanbrown
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by archasama
Let's talk about present shall we?
Israel now is a Nazi state.
If Israel were a Nazi state they would have killed all Palestinians by now. Instead they build a protective wall so that sucide bombers couldnt walk in anymore.
Every Accusation made against the Talmud can be condradicted by a moral enacment in the Shulchan Aruch (Jewish code of law).
Originally posted by mryanbrown
It essentially uses perverted logic to rationalize the division of man from one another and God.
Yes, thats more precise than "Democracy". And much more precise than your implication that they are Nazi Regimes.
The wall is built to ward off crazies such as child-suicide-bombers. This is called self-defense. The idea of Palestine being the victim came about through carefully crafted guerilla media-manipulation.
Genocide is mass-murder. There is no mass-murder taking place in Israel. There is intended mass-murder by Islamofascists.
I predicted this would come up. The paranoid worldwiew doesnt work unless everyone is on on the "conspiracy"...including Encyclopedia writers.
Why do you assume Im a Jew? Why do you assume I dont want to live in Israel? Israel is beautiful.
It should be obvious from this and other threads that I dont share or agree with the stereotype of the "rich jew".
On the contrary, I frequently oppose the idea. And you KNOW that I do.
When I call an Islamofascist by name, am I stereotyping or just describing what most people can see with their eyes?
I NEVER said or implied that Fascism is exclusively about persecution of Jews.
Wow...really? Got a good Link or Wikipedia-Article?
Presented here is a translation of a rare undated manifesto of the right-wing (also called "Revisionist") Zionist "Irgun" underground organization in Pre-State Israel. The manifesto, a 227 page book printed in Hebrew on half-sized typewritten pages, fastened by nails with a cardboard cover and reinforced spine, is called "The Hebrew War of Liberation (Ideological Foundations)". Its significance lies in the fact that it was produced around July-August 1946 at the height of a period of revolt called the "Hebrew Revolt" of 1944-1948 in Mandatory Palestine against British rule, led primarily by the Irgun itself, and this book is an attempt to explain the causes and justification of the revolt
the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group
About 300,000 Jews lived in Great Britain just before the outbreak of World War I. Most were recent refugees from the pogroms of Eastern Europe and Russia and worked in sweatshops and mills. Only 8,000 belonged to Zionist organizations.
Rich established Jews, or the “Cousinhood” consisting of a few interlinked families, among them the Rothschilds, Montefiores, Mocattas, Cohens, Goldsmids, Samuels and Montagus, were even less likely to yearn for a Middle Eastern homeland.
They identified themselves as Jewish Britons, not British Jews, and strongly disagreed with Zionists who argued that Jews constituted a separate people or nation.
When his father died in 1915, Walter Rothschild became the head of the family and the de facto leader of British Jewry. Ardent Zionist Chaim Weizmann won him over, as well as many others, including government officials.
On Nov. 2, 1917 Lord Rothschild received a letter from British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour expressing formal support for a national home in Palestine for the Jewish people.
Since then, there has been nearly a century of conflict between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East.
2005: On 7 July the London Underground Network is bombed. Israel’s Finance Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu is in London on the morning of the attacks in order to attend an economic conference in a hotel over the underground station where one of the blasts occurred, but stayed in his hotel room instead after he had been informed by Israeli intelligence officials attacks were expected. There are now only 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya.
SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading "A Nazi Travels to Palestine." The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article, "pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question." Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9
Originally posted by mryanbrown
Do you mean the Nazis worked with the Zionists to separate themselves into distinct pure racial groups?
Mayer Amschel changed his name to "Roth Schild," meaning Red Shield when he becomes a supplier of coinage to the royal Court and when the unexampled rise to power truly began. The nascent Zionist Movement adopted the House of Rothschild's blazonry because its ultimate source was this family and its fabulous wealth and power. Consequently, both destinies, the Rothschild and Zionism, become intertwined with the Zionist Movement wholly dependent upon the goodwill and largesse of this Khazar family.
The Lithuania Jew, David Wolfsohn (1856-1914), who succeeded Theodor Herzl as the visible leader of the Zionist Movement, designed the Zionist flag in 1891 whose centrepiece is the Star of David. It was first flown at the first Zionist Conference conducted by Theodor Herzl in Basel, Switzerland in 1897. Herzl had designed a Zionist emblem that was a white flag with seven yellow stars, one at each point of the hexagram which was to have been replaced with the Hebrew words, "Aryeh Yehudah" (the "Lion of the Tribe of Judah"). The seventh star was to be above the apex of the topmost of the six. Herzl's complex design was rejected and the simple Wolfsohn design was confirmed as the Jewish flag by the eighteenth Zionist Congress in 1933.
The Zionist dream, of both Jew and non-Jew Zionists, of the establishment of the Zionist State of Israel was realised in November 1947, following a UN resolution on British-ruled Palestine (resolution 181) and when the Zionist State of Israel was proclaimed in Tel Aviv on May 14, 1948.
In addition, on October 28, 1948 the atheistic nation adopted the occult symbol of the six-pointed star as its emblem and now adorns the Knesset, the seat of Zionist power and flies on the national flag. Moreover, the Magen David Adom, the ancient "Red Shield of David," is the symbol used by Israel in the humanitarian organisation, which in Roman Catholic and Protestant nations is called the "Red Cross" and in Islamic nations the "Red Crescent Service." The blue and white colours were chosen because of their use in the Hebrew tallit or prayer shawl.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by babloyi
Do you deny that 90% of what you wrote in your OP was false?
The OP says that
a) Nazi Military moved on to Arab countries, disseminating their teachings there
b) The Muslim Brotherhood was Affiliated with the Nazis
c) The Ideology of Hezbollah, Hamas, current Iran and Al Qaeda is essentially fascist
d) That Islamofascism is similar in teaching and behavior to the Nazi Regime.
None of this has been Debunked.
If you say "Arafat was not a Member of the M.B. but only an Affiliate" I dont consider that a Debunk.
The other points have been adressed.
Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by h0rror
Do you mean the Nazis worked with the Zionists to separate themselves into distinct pure racial groups? Killing those that were not pure by placing them in the front lines or work camps to die in support of Nazism and Zionism?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
! Fascism is not exclusive to Nazism.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
By the way, do you still believe that Jews created both Hitler and the Holocaust, as you said on another thread?