NASA smoking gun clear photo of structures on moon(direct link from their server)

Originally posted by Dagar
Zorgon, what I find deliciously ironical is that the attitude of these 'experts' so mirrors that of those who persecuted the likes of Galileo & Darwin.

There is even a more recent and important example of this... Eugene Podkletnov. It was so bad that he retracted a paper he published and now has been delegated to the shadows...

Most physicists laughed at Podkletnov's report. Riley Newman, a professor of physics at UC Irvine who has been involved in gravity research for 20 years, typified the reaction when he commented, "I think it's safe to say gravity shielding is not conceivable." Like many scientists, he felt that Podkletnov must have made a mistake, measuring magnetic fields or air currents instead of genuine weight reduction.

And yet, few of Podkletnov's critics actually bothered to read his description of his work. Their reaction was so dismissive, it almost sounded like prejudice. From their perspective he was an outsider, a nonmember of the "gravity establishment." They couldn't believe that a major discovery in physics had been made by such a no-status dilettante fooling around at some obscure lab in Finland.

www.wired.com...

So here we see that they didn't even bother to check his work... they just outted him on their own prejudice... and yet today a simple look at youtube will show that his stuff does in fact work.



But in the mean time this man's career is in shambles and he trusts no one anymore.. its almost impossible to even get an interview

So much for 'Educated experts'

reply to post by zorgon

At the risk of going even more off topic:
Pray tell, what does magnetic repulsion have to do with "gravity shielding"?

reply to post by Phage


Hahahahahaha, First it was about that image with the smudge on it. Then about another image regarding a hill. Now about a video regarding electromagnetism. I see. Maybe we would get more work done by instituting some form of "1500-word essay posts only" which would be more productive in deriving a conclusion. Essays are better.

Originally posted by Phage
At the risk of going even more off topic:

Ah well... we wouldn't want to do that so we can continue that here
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But I was pretty sure this moon base was done... but carry on, by all means

reply to post by Dagar


"Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment, you must also be right."

-- Robert Park

That definitely looks interesting enough to warrant further investigation. That looks like a right-angled wall casting the shadow. I'm not saying it is, but it certainly has an unnatural look about it and as such should be looked into further.

post by prepared4truth

Check out this one.. very strange...


my god there ALSO are giant letters on the MOON!!!

I see an A, B, C, D, E!!


what could it mean?????....

Originally posted by Saint Exupery
reply to post by Dagar

 

"Alas, to wear the mantle of Galileo it is not enough that you be persecuted by an unkind establishment, you must also be right."

-- Robert Park

Never said that the person being ridiculed was right or wrong... time will tell on that one.

My comment was about those who regard themselves as scientists and discoverers, who behave more like screaming religious banshees and head in the sand regurgitators. how THEY mirror those who mocked the likes of Galilieo

Whether the person being mocked is right or wrong is irrelevant ... An open mind, a willingness to accept the possibilities of other truths and look at things from a different viewpoint, and accepting that your present accepted reality might be wrong, should be in the make-up of anyone who calls themselves a scientist.

Many fall far short, and resemble religious zealot more than they do open-minded investigators.

If they just dropped the arrogance, it'd be a start... a small one, but a start nevertheless.

reply to post by Awalltheone


Old German bunker.

reply to post by spikester


MORE STRUCTURES AND UFOS ON THE MOON

Please visit AncientFuture.info here to see even more examples.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7daedd9e9fde.png[/atsimg]
Source: 18 50 40 N, 24 25 46 E, Apollo 17 area. Google Moon image


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0a713f62dea0.png[/atsimg]
Apollo 17 lunar rover and potential UFOs.
Contrast edited screen capture from Google Moon. 20 10 16 N 30 33 42 E.
Caution: this is a highly processed mosaic.

See the full screen capture here


These might just be sundogs, however they don't converge to a point along the individual ray, and a black anvil shaped UFO, matching the lower 2 objects was imaged independently elsewhere in the Apollo 17 / Vitruvius area.

Stealthy UFOs might choose to masquerade as sundogs, clouds, and other non-descript shapes like dots

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1313fb67c80d.png[/atsimg]


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3df858bcf725.png[/atsimg]
Source: Google Moon 18 32 13 N, 27 27 51 E

Source: www.lpi.usra.edu...
Looks like someone's old jeep got junked on the moon! No offense ET!



[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/47f377664f8e.jpg[/atsimg]
Source: www.lpi.usra.edu...

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Klassified

 

"Not everyone believes the causeway is a natural formaton"....MY A$$!!! (Maybe Billy-Joe Jim-Bob from east bumble-fork nowheresville, ANYstate, USA perhaps.....).......

Now that's funny! Good one.

Originally posted by keyseeker
reply to post by spikester

 

MORE STRUCTURES AND UFOS ON THE MOON

Please visit AncientFuture.info here to see even more examples.
(snip)
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/0a713f62dea0.png[/atsimg]
Apollo 17 lunar rover and potential UFOs.

I don't see UFOs or sundogs. I see lens reflections. And at the other website lots more lens reflections. The vehicle being the source for the reflections.

reply to post by Gab1159


Which photo came first...? I can imagine the moment when someone up top realised how much work would need to be done because of one lousy photo...

The shadows on the 'lava flow' from Phage's first pic don't seem accurate when compared to the rest of the frame. There's a lot of tinkering going on with these newer photos he's presenting.

I'm fairly disappointed at the amount of people on ATS who want to cosy up to falsehood in this way. 35 odd stars for Phage's first shill pic? Not saying he created it, he's just sharing it. But come on people - follow the obvious signs and don't drink the kool-aid.

To all those who deny that anything untoward is happening on the moon/ mars. It's probably time to have a long hard look - without all the preconceptions and preferences of a comfortable worldview - look again. And again, and again. Tie up the global military/ NWO agenda with what 'might' be happening in space. There's plenty of evidence that artificial structures exist on the Moon/ Mars (not to mention other planetary bodies in our very own solar system), that extraterrestrial UFOs have interacted with our astronauts, and that the government knows all about it. Use your eyes, and look beneath the layers (upon layers (upon layers)) of disinformation and misdirection. You really think the government can't cover over as much of this as possible, to make it seem outlandish? Really? Or do you just want to be comfortable?

Ridicule, discredit and deflect. Erase the histories of proponents of the truth, present them as fakers and pseudoscientists. Present false 'evidence', leave obvious fakes/junk lying around all over the net, plant some 'genuine fakers', tar them all with the same brush. In the name of National Security...(???)

It's a triumph of the disinfo machine that people react so violently to being told that some weirdness is going on up there/ down here in ancient times (even those whom we think we know and understand in everyday conversation can be fiercely adamant in protecting the mainstream viewpoint, despite their obvious ignorance of all but the most basic of 'facts')...

Quit pressing the snooze button!

reply to post by The Shrike


Nice job at ignoring the more convincing geometric structures on the lunar surface.... 'Deflect...'

2nd.

reply to post by TrailGator


Pure BS. Nice way to clog the thread with junk!

This is what I'm talking about. People are so clearly 'ignoring' (or deflecting interest from) the available data. As someone else has said, it seems more like the zealotry that wanted to burn galileo at the stake than any sort of ratiional open-minded scientific enquiry.

And sorry but when did the government become trustworthy again..? Was that before or after the CIA's NORTHWOODS plot..?

Originally posted by FoosM
The following picture comes from straight from NASA and it shows clear anomalies.
If anybody cant see them, well I dont know what to say, take a course in basic geology?
No I'm kidding, but seriously, its photos like these that makes many question NASA's
story. Do anyone see whats wrong? I will first direct you to the crater. I first didnt see it either.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/42149a9e3df2.gif[/atsimg]

Did anyone have a good reason for why this big hole on a NASA picture has obvious liquid / lava / trash / whatever coming out of it???

Could a Pro Plese Zoom in on the hole and tell me whats happening in it!

Piqued my intrests... Am i the only one

Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
reply to post by Gab1159

 

It's a triumph of the disinfo machine that people react so violently to being told that some weirdness is going on up there/ down here in ancient times (even those whom we think we know and understand in everyday conversation can be fiercely adamant in protecting the mainstream viewpoint, despite their obvious ignorance of all but the most basic of 'facts')...

exactly, Mr. fly....and there is one side of this equation i would like to add and that is our religious orientations.
the weirdness or whatever is going on in the moon and mars will surely send shiver to any one whose faith centers on us being the only beings created by an omnipresent being?.
i wonder how many of those unwavering skeptics and dis-info guys and are members of these denominations with such religious tenets...
so it could be a religion-government effort, any taker...

Originally posted by Dagar

...what I find deliciously ironical is that the attitude of these 'experts' so mirrors that of those who persecuted the likes of Galileo & Darwin.

The real irony is that men like Bruno, Galileo and Darwin were the bravest skeptics and debunkers of all. They dared to challenge the illogical views of the fantasists and explain reality in scientific terms. The Believers burned Bruno alive and persecuted other rational scientific thinkers with similarly horrible threats of torture and burning to death - it was the only way they could win the argument.

Today the Believers continue with that irrational, mindless persecution of common sense but with a different kind of flaming.

reply to post by alphaMegas


Interesting thought certainly.. Thinking along the lines of (shudder) Dan Brown, there's the idea of secretive militant branches of Catholicism.. The Mormons also feature highly on my list of suspect religious organisations... Reason? They are one of the primary landowners in the UK (as but one example), and yet hardly anyone knows about it. They hold a lot more power than they let on!

Mormons in the UK - more land holdings than any other foreign entity!