Mysterious Missile Launch Over California - 11/8/2010

Well I saw it. At least part of its trail, just past 5pm, from up in the Ojai mountains, inland east of Ventura.
We don't have a view over the ocean from this distance, so I must have seen an upper segment. Most of it was obscured by the mountain treeline.
What made me look up to the sky was that an intense cast of red light bathed over us, reflected off this huge 'contrail'.
To me, this was way larger than an airline contrail, and there are lots of those over here.
I saw a very thick straight pattern, crossed by another, (as in the video).
For general information, the wind was up and it got bitterly cold as the sun was going down.
That's all I know about the ambiant effects, and I've been busy on other forums all day, so I don't know all that's been discussed here.

I'm going to suggest an alternative theory, trying not to scare my fellow Los Angeleans:

What if this was an incoming missile attack? China, anyone?...(You know.....the mice come out to play while big cat's away!)
Could the missile that we saw have been launched from a subpositioned 35 miles off the coast, as an interceptor against an incoming missile attack.
Point Mugu is the Pacific Missile Test Navy launch site, where joint US/ISRAELI tests missions often take place.
Then there's Vandenburg AF base just up the coast. An incoming attack would have set off censors from these military bases and tactical defense mechanisms would have been automatically set off, launching antiballistic missiles from an off-coast submarine, without delay.

In other words: Could this have been the REAL THING?
China lobs off a long range missile headed for Los Angeles; Its trajectory is detected; missile is intercepted.....the collision would have occured over the horizon, well out of any land-based view.
People have questioned why China would do this? I don't know; maybe they're they're pissed off at the USA getting too cosy with India?...

Of course, had it not been a successful interception, I would not be here to write this post!

Just stop already with the "military might" theory......one rocket does not show military might, every country can do that. If one rocket is what we show as our military might, strap yourselves in ............the whole world, including the small nations are coming to kick our asses.

reply to post by steve95988


how long did it take you to match the plane route with the time of day over there? i had no trouble doing it for today but didn’t know how to find yesterdays... Surely it didn’t take you 24 hours like it did for our government? that is if anyone from the government has still said anything conclusive about it, to my knowledge it is still the just the media saying it might be a plane? the government still says they don’t know what it was which is utterly ridiculous...

me thinks is a final attempt to destroy an incoming astroid.

reply to post by TheRepublic


hmmm i think it took me 5 mins, once i knew where to look

I believe that if it were merely a plane, there wouldn't be 64 pages to this thread.

That's a but much -- even for ATS -- for such a cut and dry answer, IMO.

It may have been the Chineese taking one of their new Jin class boats out for an in-your-face drive or an American test. The lack of a NOTAM warning is curious.

Originally posted by boomadatigger

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by boomadatigger

Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by Phage

 

Don't you think the Pentagon would have been able to find out, within minutes if not within seconds, if it was a comercial plane?

One would think so. Plane or missile, there's something really fishy going on.

I'm going with those with experience and expertise on this thread - it's a missile. Yep, for sure something fishy going on here.

I guess no-one knows where it landed?

No - that was me, lol.

Did I say it was a missle?

Originally posted by Majic
The Camera Never Lies (But It Can Deceive)

The second video has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread, but I think a lot of my fellow members may be missing what it reveals.

I recommend watching these two videos, side by side if your monitor space allows it, to add some much-needed perspective to the discussion:

KFMB 760AM: Mysterious missile lights up the sky over the Pacific

NECN: Mysterious missile launched off California coast?

In the second video, please pay particular attention at about time 0:45, where the camera pans up rather quickly. We can see the black cloud in the foreground, and a now more dispersed contrail behind it.

The features of the dispersed contrail seem to roughly match those of the fresher contrail in the first video, but at an apparently later time, so it seems likely these are the same phenomenon -- especially since there's only one such contrail visible in either video.

Now, follow the camera on the second video for a clearer view of what is causing it.

It's possible the second video may be of a different object, but again, the comparison of the shapes of the contrails suggest they are the same. The view at 0:45 on the second video seems to be much later, with the contrail more downwind of the black cloud than before.

Conclusive? Not really.

Suggestive? Definitely.

I haven't seen the second video anywhere else, and all news sources are using the kcbs footage which don't show any part of what's in the second vid. There's no citing of the source of that video either.

does anyone know an approximate location of where the helicopter that filmed it was .. i believe i heard it was monitoring traffic ... could it have been over LA?

Originally posted by Mr. D

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by boomadatigger

Originally posted by wcitizen
reply to post by Phage

 

Don't you think the Pentagon would have been able to find out, within minutes if not within seconds, if it was a comercial plane?

One would think so. Plane or missile, there's something really fishy going on.

Thanks Mr. D. I hope there weren't any casualities IF it was a missile!

I'm going with those with experience and expertise on this thread - it's a missile. Yep, for sure something fishy going on here.

I guess no-one knows where it landed?

Looking at modis and google earth, if there was no change in trajectory I'd say somewhere
around the Phillipines. Also depends on the range of the missle.

Originally posted by AndrewJay
me thinks is a final attempt to destroy an incoming astroid.

Hmm, Carol Rosin did say that Werner Von Braun told her there were 4 stages: communism, terrorism, asteroids, and alien threat. I never understood how they would try to play the asteroid card, but you bring up an interesting point with this event.

If it's just a plane, then it's a non-issue, but if it's not a plane, then who knows what might come next... for all we know they might hold a conference and tell us that it actually was a final attempt at destroying an incoming asteroid. Now that would be pretty freaky...

I see a connection to the recent failure of 50 of our ICBMs a week or so ago.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Maybe Chinese hackers now control the US missile deterrent. Under this scenario they launched one of our own, from an area known for missile testing.

I'd imagine that the premier of China is probably dictating terms to our president right now. Given Obama's fondness for Marxism, maybe he's in on it, which is why he fled to Asia.

Somehow all the dots connect together. Manchurian candidate opens the door to Chinese hackers to control US nuke arsenal. Manchurian candidate flees to the sphere of influence of his masters, while the US burns to the ground.

Other than that I wouldn't be worried........

Originally posted by AndrewJay
me thinks is a final attempt to destroy an incoming astroid.

Or maybe Nibiru...who knows!

reply to post by Phenomium


thats not the point.
The point is that someone is daring and dumb enough to come right up to the US coastline then shoot off a submarine missile.

that in itself shows might, 20yrs ago no one would have dared do it.

Im betting there's a hell of a lot of talk/chatter/arguing going on in the halls of Washington DC.

Was it know prior? possibly.
Do they know who did it? Definately.

reply to post by Diplomat


i have heard the comet/ asteroid argument, few concerns regarding that. They wouldnt fire one, they wouldnt fire two they would fire hundreds, and those would be completely unaffectve. Not to slam you Americans but why do you have a monopoly on incoming interplanetary threats? wouldnt another country have to know. Finally if the object coming towards our planet was close enough that we could fire surface to air missiles at them they are close enough that every amatuer astronomer would have to be involved in the "coverup".

Me personaly will sleep in no fear of asteroid/comet, loootss of other things though :-)

If it was just contrail from a jet then where did that jet come from why hasn't anyone been able to explain this *mystery* airplane or military jet... I would really like for it to be just a jet but in that why can't anyone explain where it came from and why did a aircraft with passengers take off in the middle of the ocean 30 miles off the coast of cali and 20-25 miles off catalina island. If it was military we would know they could of simply said it was a jet a LOONG time ago. Why would it be such a secret if it was just a plane they would of stopped the wondering a loooong time ago.

reply to post by Phage


That flight was diverted to Oakland and arrived at 03:59PM EST. Then had to fly to LAX and arrived at 07:27PM EST. Then it went to Albuquerque.

I have no idea why you think this flight was 35 miles due east of LA at 8:53 PM EST (sunset).

reply to post by thecinic


i agree, the pilot of said plane would have heard by now and come forward.

NAVY confirmed no foreign vessels were off the coast they would of for sure known.... We would know if there was a vessel from china or another nation... China wouldn't even have to get that close to let off a missile