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Hundreds of UFOs hover in our sky, and we can see them?

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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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to that, I have no answer. Not yet anyway. But you should listen to those who post about the cosmic law, it sounds crazy but it is the truth. There is so much more to everything than you could even imagine. It would be impossible to ever know it all.

Our ancestors and the other spiritual beings who watch over us are not going to let us wipe ourselves out. We have the potential, but they will not allow it.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by strawberry91
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to that, I have no answer. Not yet anyway. But you should listen to those who post about the cosmic law, it sounds crazy but it is the truth. There is so much more to everything than you could even imagine. It would be impossible to ever know it all.

Our ancestors and the other spiritual beings who watch over us are not going to let us wipe ourselves out. We have the potential, but they will not allow it.


My Dad always taught me that the man who thinks he knows it all is actually the least intelligent. The most intelligent man realizes that there is SO MUCH that they do not know. I like to think I am the latter.

Are these "Cosmic Laws" you guys talk about the truth? It's very possible that they are. Am I CONVINCED that they are the truth? Nope, not yet at least. Only source I know of for information like this was from people who "channelled" it from someone or something (most likely the malevolent spiritual entities purposefully deceiving them).

Edit to add: I might be able to help you out with the answer to why they didn't stop the Japan nukes: because that is not what's going on here, there is not a race of benevolent aliens watching over Earth, disabling missiles, and whatever else...
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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i agree with a lot of whats been said in this thread.....but it seems to me that op is basing like 90% of his beliefs on sg1.

i understand the show makes a lot of plausible points....but ur just like reading the back cover of an sg1 dvd

as for the ppl saying that these ARE plasma beings, or creatures on another dimension....

realllllly dont know how you can auto assume that to be true, yet say that alien visitation is unlikely?

id go for the alien crafts before i believed in some big creature in the sky.....where are you getting your facts that these beings have been on earth for many years, and where are u getting the fact that theyre even here?

(note sorry for my lack of proper punctuation, im a poker player and as such im uber lazy.)

(2nd note, no offense to either members, just inquiring)



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by smitts_lgp

as for the ppl saying that these ARE plasma beings, or creatures on another dimension....

realllllly dont know how you can auto assume that to be true, yet say that alien visitation is unlikely?

id go for the alien crafts before i believed in some big creature in the sky.....where are you getting your facts that these beings have been on earth for many years, and where are u getting the fact that theyre even here?


Years and years of research and investigation. I wouldn't even know where to point you to first, lol, that is why it's basically a personal journey for everyone that they must take on their own. If you have more specific questions as to where some of this information came from I might be able to point you in the right direction.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:21 PM
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Do you listen to pop music? Odds are that your favorite artist has been to a seance and has seen one of these entities with their own eyes. This goes much deeper than you would ever imagine. This phenomenon has permeated throughout our entire culture, it is right in front of our faces at all times, think "hidden in plain sight."
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:22 PM
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I dont intend to sound as if I know it all, I believe I said before that Im not pushing anything on anyone.

If thats your belief then stick to it! I dont think many nukes have hit the populace since that occasion though I might add. Some evil beings they are. They sure did have a bunch of chances to drop a few more nukes during the cold war but that never happened now did it?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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If there's any truth to ancient astronaut theory, I'd argue that whatever is going on certainly has a physical presence, like flesh and blood.

There's plenty of gods that walked among us from ancient babylon, sumeria, mezo-america, south america and the american southwest.

They all certainly weren't fluffy balls of spiritual energy.

(proper nouns + lazy = my post)



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Diplomat

Years and years of research and investigation. I wouldn't even know where to point you to first, lol, that is why it's basically a personal journey for everyone that they must take on their own. If you have more specific questions as to where some of this information came from I might be able to point you in the right direction.



ok yeah sorry lol my post was rather vague...

these beings, what proof do we have of their existence..if any?....i THINK i read, (dont quote me), but i think it was you that said thats why we have no physical proof etc.....j/w why if there is no physical proof, why would you assume them to be creatures on another plane of existence, rather than alien craft, or black op human craft for that matter?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:24 PM
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lol i can honestly say I have no idea what sg1 is?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Diplomat
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Do you listen to pop music? Odds are that your favorite artist has been to a seance and has seen one of these entities with their own eyes. This goes much deeper than you would ever imagine. This phenomenon has permeated throughout our entire culture, it is right in front of our faces at all times, think "hidden in plain sight."
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i listen to hip hop...yet i tend to try to stray from mainstream as its so blatantly terrible.

im guessing then you are a believer of hiphop being filled with occultism? jay-z, dame dash, kanye, etc?



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:26 PM
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Nuclear holocaust is definitely still in the cards.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by guavas
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If there's any truth to ancient astronaut theory, I'd argue that whatever is going on certainly has a physical presence, like flesh and blood.

There's plenty of gods that walked among us from ancient babylon, sumeria, mezo-america, south america and the american southwest.

They all certainly weren't fluffy balls of spiritual energy.

(proper nouns + lazy = my post)


Well I don't know for sure, but from what I have learned these spiritual entities can literally manifest themselves PHYSICALLY, in ANY FORM they choose.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by strawberry91
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I was wondering, what would be a good camcorder for recording these ufos? What do you use? I am actually thinking of buying one so I can try to take my own footage


You need to shoot in near infrared. Most people would suggest an older Sony model with nightshot avaible on ebay. You would then need to place an IR filter in front in order to film in daylight unless you open the camera and make a modification. Older Sony camcorders that have no nightshot restriction in daytime are analogue and not ideal for transfer to computers as the quality sucks.

On the other hand you could buy a modern camcorder available today and hope that it is suceptible to IR. If it is then you can attach an IR filter to block visible light.

My favorite camcorder is neither a Sony, Canon or Panasonic. I opened it up and remove the infrared blocking filter and replaced it with a thin filter that blocks visible light. The advantage of using a modern camera is that you get higher quality and better zoom.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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yeah maybe but like I said before Im not sweating it. Yeah some crazy stuff is probably gonna happen, but I just dont see a nuclear holocaust happening. And yes, I do pay attention to the news.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by smitts_lgp

Originally posted by Diplomat

Years and years of research and investigation. I wouldn't even know where to point you to first, lol, that is why it's basically a personal journey for everyone that they must take on their own. If you have more specific questions as to where some of this information came from I might be able to point you in the right direction.



ok yeah sorry lol my post was rather vague...

these beings, what proof do we have of their existence..if any?....i THINK i read, (dont quote me), but i think it was you that said thats why we have no physical proof etc.....j/w why if there is no physical proof, why would you assume them to be creatures on another plane of existence, rather than alien craft, or black op human craft for that matter?


Me, personally, a main reason I believe it is because just about every "Illuminati" or secret-society insider/deflector has the same story. They all say the same thing. It's all about worshipping and dealing with these "spirits."

As far as alien crafts vs. human crafts, somewhere along the line human beings lost respect for and faith in their own race's intelligence and advancement. Our human race has been building "flying saucers" since the Nazi's were working on project VRIL. The U.S. then brought some of their scientists over here to continue the work under Operation PAPERCLIP. The main reason the average person has trouble believing this is because all of this technology has PURPOSEFULLY been kept secret.

Ben Rich was the director of Lockheed Martin's Skunkworks, and he supposedly had this to say before he died:

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine we already know how to do."
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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honestly if this is true, im quite sorry.

i advise you to watch a few seasons of stargate SG-1......

numerous posts of yours i instantly related to the show..

the ascended ancestors here to watch over us,
the fact that "greys" (azgard on the show), have lost reproductive abilities and need a certain human gene to continue it

guessing you prob just picked it up from others who picked it up from the show...could be wrong tho...

i mean before seeing the show, i had the idea of "gods" just being ET that were either un-intentionally or intentionally misinterpreted by the people of earth at the time...which obv was the storyline of the show...id honestly advise watching it....great show.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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edit as u answered it


if you have msn/skype and arent opposed to conversations, pm me ur info
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posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by smitts_lgp
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ok, but precisely HOW did you come to the conclusion that these beings can manifest into any shape....

to an uneducated person, the idea of alien craft seems more plausible than some invisible shape shifting entity...


I'd have to disagree with that. The idea of "spirits" is an ancient concept, something that most people strongly believed in until the manipulation began on a large scale.

To think that a solid metal craft could actually travel across a galaxy or galaxies is the absurd idea in my opinion.

Sure, people will bring up wormholes and teleportation and all kinds of other things that are still simply theoretical, but when you really sit down and think critically about space travel, the distances, the physics of it, etc, it would be impossible to travel at high speeds through a galaxy in some metal ship without all kinds of severe consequences.



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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yes but how do we know theyve even come from across the galaxy or from another one entirely...

for all we know theyre our close neighbors in a relatively close star system....just because our technology cant identify them doesnt make it a fact theyre not there...

and i mean really with all the bs and coverups going on, if they did find this supposed civilization.. do you think they would tell us?...i doubt it

i mean really as far as the general public is concerned how do we know that Strawberry isnt right,...perhaps they are our ancestors, that are much closer than they let on as they want to see how we progress on our own.

theres no real way to tell for sure...but to label a ship as being traveled across galaxies etc, just because its here isnt the right thing to do imo...

indeed the size of our known universe would imply that they prob did have to travel immense distances....but that doesnt make it a fact....jus sayin....we(read as public) just dont know



posted on Nov, 6 2010 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by smitts_lgp

Originally posted by Diplomat

Years and years of research and investigation. I wouldn't even know where to point you to first, lol, that is why it's basically a personal journey for everyone that they must take on their own. If you have more specific questions as to where some of this information came from I might be able to point you in the right direction.



ok yeah sorry lol my post was rather vague...

these beings, what proof do we have of their existence..if any?....i THINK i read, (dont quote me), but i think it was you that said thats why we have no physical proof etc.....j/w why if there is no physical proof, why would you assume them to be creatures on another plane of existence, rather than alien craft, or black op human craft for that matter?


Me, personally, a main reason I believe it is because just about every "Illuminati" or secret-society insider/deflector has the same story. They all say the same thing. It's all about worshipping and dealing with these "spirits."

As far as alien crafts vs. human crafts, somewhere along the line human beings lost respect for and faith in their own race's intelligence and advancement. Our human race has been building "flying saucers" since the Nazi's were working on project VRIL. The U.S. then brought some of their scientists over here to continue the work under Operation PAPERCLIP. The main reason the average person has trouble believing this is because all of this technology has PURPOSEFULLY been kept secret.

Ben Rich was the director of Lockheed Martin's Skunkworks, and he supposedly had this to say before he died:

"We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine we already know how to do."
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Sorry, couldn't resist, you opened the door. Here's a quote from the same article you probably read:
"NUGGET ONE: “Inside the Skunk Works (Lockheed’s secret research and development entity), we were a small, intensely cohesive group consisting of about fifty veteran engineers and designers and a hundred or so expert machinists and shop workers. Our forte was building technologically advanced airplanes of small number and of high class for highly secret missions.


NUGGET TWO: “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.


NUGGET THREE: “We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”


NUGGET FOUR: When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?”The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”
Ben RichLockheed Former CEO knew of extraterrestrial UFO visitors
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Lockheed admitted in his deathbed aliens were real and they back engineered UFOs. Here's the link to the article: www.abadss.com...

Don't select a specific quote while ignoring the rest of an article...



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