Hundreds of UFOs hover in our sky, and we can see them?

I will read his story,
and give him the benefit of the doubt...

But when someone shows me a video,
and says..
"Look, right over the top of that tre, you see it moving"..
and there is absolutely NOTHING visible..
then, the benefit of the doubt i gave him earlier..
goes out the window.

Seriously..
That video shows absolutely nothing,
Nothing at all.
Not even a cloud.

Yet he sits there and says, "look, look, you can see it"..
Insisting something is there..
But nothing is there..
Very LAME>


anything he said in his article..
I will completely forget about now.
Because his video showed me that he is simply whacked.
what an effing waste of time.

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lmao as I said, I dont believe his little recorder had enough power to pick up what he was seeing with his own eyes, and he wasnt even zoomed in!

Originally posted by zorgon

They are plasma lifeforms that are native to Earth and have always beed here. They are translucent thus barely visible and are better seen in the infrared spectrum, hence why night vision googles show them. The change shape but are roughly circular in shape and the young are spheres. When the 'charge up' ie near lighting storms, power lines, nuclear plants and space tethers

they glow and become more visible.

Just google plasma lief forms... main stream science is catching on

They are curious, play tag with our planes and spacecraft, but the are harmless. Not sure we can communicate directly with them yet

But think logically. Why would any Alien race spend decades flying around our skies with thousands of ships and just play hide and seek behind clouds?

I agree with you on this and thanks for the information re. plasma. Whilst they may play with us, there is a sinister side to it. You never know which ones are dangerous. You have plasma, orbs, nature spirits, elementals, and so on. But ultimately the grey alien cannot be ignored.

When I started to hunt for UFOs, I was mostly interested with the grey alien phenomenon. Equipped with a camera that shoots in near-infrared I found it all to easy to catch something. At times I felt like I was receiving a bekoning from these entities. Among all UFO/alien phenomenon I find the grey alien to be the most disturbing. The reason is that I see them as demonic entities who have swapped the horns and wings with sexy lycra suits and spacecrafts to suit the times.

The truth is that there are many types of UFO phenomena, enough to accomodate everyone's belief.

Regarding the dark discs that I mentioned I was not suggesting that they were cloaked crafts from another planet. I just consider them to be cloaked entities. The reason is that they followed the contours of the clouds so carefully. You may well say that when you are up there (say in an airplane) it is very difficult to see the edge of the cloud since it is all just one big mist. So perhaps everything is enacted for the benefit of the observer on the ground - me. This accords with my theory that to shoot a UFO (with camera ) all you need is to expect the UFO to be there. This is very much what the opening post was about.

Originally posted by sykickvision
Really? REALLY?!?!?!

I read part of it...when I got to :

"6. Next time when you see the moving whitish grey cloud or signal lights wave your hand to it and this object will start zig-zag in your direction. That is how AFOs say HELLO to you."

I had to stop. Come on.

They cloak themselves with invisibility to hide from us, yet will zig-zag toward you in a gesture of saying "HELLO"??

Why is it that we are so important that the ET's have to hide themselves from us? If they were truly hiding from us - we would not be aware they were even there. If they do exist, then why all the spotted sightings and not actual contact? The more advanced civilization is conceding to the whims of OUR civilization in keeping their existence under wraps?

Appearing to you without your desire for such would infringe on your Free Will or "Right not to know."

There is a quarantine from the outside in.

Appearing to you without your desire for such would infringe on your Free Will or "Right not to know."

There is a quarantine from the outside in.

I'm sorry, but that is such a load of crap.

I am SO SICK of that lame excuse.

Where did all these free will 'laws' come from anyways? Let me guess, someone "channelled" them from what they "thought" was an extraterrestrial...

If an advanced race of benevolent beings came to our planet WE WOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT, they would WANT US TO ALL KNOW ABOUT IT. They wouldn't play hide 'n go seek in our skies for centuries while we sit down here on the ground wondering and guessing.

Originally posted by Diplomat
The funny thing is a lot of these evil occultists dont actually view themselves or what they are doing as evil. You can even find multiple forums online like this one that are dedicated to so-called "magick" and the occult. It's very strange to read their forums because they act like what they are up to is totally good and normal.

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I dabbled a bit and my own personal view is that to fight evil one must know it. Knowing does not mean embracing it. It means knowing how to neutralise it. Few have got the courage to do summoning.

Sadly , the world does not have enough champions for good. There are a lot of evil people out there. They don't have to be black magicians. They could just be powerful people. Yet there are hardly any strong individuals who can take them on. The reason is simply that pursuing studies in the occult is regarded as inadvisable. So evil people continue to have no opposition.

Originally posted by crowdedskies

Originally posted by Diplomat
The funny thing is a lot of these evil occultists dont actually view themselves or what they are doing as evil. You can even find multiple forums online like this one that are dedicated to so-called "magick" and the occult. It's very strange to read their forums because they act like what they are up to is totally good and normal.

edit on 6-11-2010 by Diplomat because: (no reason given)

I dabbled a bit and my own personal view is that to fight evil one must know it. Knowing does not mean embracing it. It means knowing how to neutralise it. Few have got the courage to do summoning.

Sadly , the world does not have enough champions for good. There are a lot of evil people out there. They don't have to be black magicians. They could just be powerful people. Yet there are hardly any strong individuals who can take them on. The reason is simply that pursuing studies in the occult is regarded as inadvisable. So evil people continue to have no opposition.

The main reason I don't want to get involved with the occult and summoning entities is because the Bible supposedly forbids it.

Do I believe that the Bible is 100% truth? No, I have no way of knowing that.

So with that being said, I'd still rather not dabble in the occult, because what if the Bible IS true, and God really does strictly forbid interaction with the spirit world? On the other hand, maybe the Bible is totally fake and I'm simply missing out on the great occult-style of life. Either way I'd rather just leave it alone. I can learn about the evil without actually participating in it.

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Ok first of all, let's be honest, you didn't say you were agreeing with every words he wrote, but seriously, why quote someone like you did if you don't agree...If you didn't agree, you shouldn't have quoted.

Now, as for the second part of your replies...STOP IT! Don't want to be rough, but really...You CAN'T. Stop it right now! You can't put yourself in extraterrestrial beings and try to think like them. YOU CAN'T use common sense to guess their agenda. I believe their are more than a single race observing Earth right now, so that'd be right to say they all have different agendas, but I could be wrong on that, who knows? You simply can't use that as an argument, sorry. These civilization are more advanced than us, it's extreme. We can't start to try to think like them for several reasons: they're probably not humans, they don't have the same conditions on their planet as we do, they're obviously more advanced than us, they probably have a different economic system, if they do, they probably have entirely different values than we do (different emotional structure)...there is an infinity of these factors that make it impossible to use common sense and try to guess what they're doing here, or what they are not.

Another thing, they are not "hovering aimlessly in the sky"...They do have an agenda, everything they do has a purpose. Again, I could be wrong, they could just come here to have fun playing hide and seek with an inferior civilization that doesn't understand # about the UFO phenomenon...WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW!

As for the Chinese black ops project, I don't think. There are possibilities, but we're not talking about the same stuff buddy. I'm talking about astronauts, NASA live feeds, and such. What I was talking about is outer worldly crafts in orbit around Earth that appear to decloack instantly. I've heard several astronauts aboard space ships transmitting information about "alien spacecraft" to their bases, be it American, Chinese, Russian. They all do speak about alien spacecraft as if they knew for sure they existed.

It seems you are not open minded enough to overpass your beliefs. What you believe is not necessarily the truth, you just stick to your beliefs. Don't take this as a personal attack...but I find it weird that you dismiss "people's word" that easily, especially when they come from highly credible persons. Official transmissions are facts. Skeptics always demand facts but when it is provided, it isn't enough. That last sentence wasn't directed to you, but I find it's a good comparison. There are facts of extraterrestrial visitations in the past, the present, and most probably, the future. As I mentioned somewhere above, go look for the starchildproject.com website and look the latest DNA tests. This is evidence/fact.

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I was wondering, what would be a good camcorder for recording these ufos? What do you use? I am actually thinking of buying one so I can try to take my own footage

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It's funny because you talk to me as if I am some brainwashed Christian, who for my whole life has only thought in Biblical/Spiritual terms.

The truth about me is actually the exact opposite. For most of my life I was an atheist and had nothing to do with religion or spirituality, I was too busy researching things like aliens and 9/11. It wasn't until recently, after delving even deeper into all of this stuff that I finally realized that myself, along with many others in this Ufology field, have been seriously deceived this whole time.

I'm not even going off what other people have said or researched anymore, I am going from my own gut, my own intuition.

And as far as the whole "We can't possibly think how aliens would think," yes, I have heard that and everything that goes along with it a thousand times, and I used to agree totally. But now it is just so clear to me, it's so obvious that these "things" people see in the sky are not some advanced alien race from Zeta Reticuli, none of it makes any sense at all when you look at it that way. If you want to believe that an advanced race of aliens would visit a troubled planet like ours and not do anything to help, just secretly fly around all the time while 98% of the population has no idea that they even exist, then fine, that is your prerogative.

Originally posted by Diplomat

Appearing to you without your desire for such would infringe on your Free Will or "Right not to know."

There is a quarantine from the outside in.

I'm sorry, but that is such a load of crap.

I am SO SICK of that lame excuse.

Where did all these free will 'laws' come from anyways? Let me guess, someone "channelled" them from what they "thought" was an extraterrestrial...

If an advanced race of benevolent beings came to our planet WE WOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT, they would WANT US TO ALL KNOW ABOUT IT. They wouldn't play hide 'n go seek in our skies for centuries while we sit down here on the ground wondering and guessing.

If advanced benevolent beings came to our planet they would love for us to know about "it".

Free Will must still be upheld to go against it would to be going against Universal core Laws causing imbalance and ill effects.

They've been here all along, and in the shadow of the history of Humanity they've played a very close role; there wasn't always such a separation. Humans have a tendency towards elitism - there won't be information or help given so that this tendency can cause destruction again.

The "channeled" information is the only contact that will be made. Physical appearances will do much more harm than good.

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Do you believe in reincarnation? Do you believe in evolution of conscious?

Your background is very similar to mine!

Originally posted by 11118


If advanced benevolent beings came to our planet they would love for us to know about "it".

Free Will must still be upheld to go against it would to be going against Universal core Laws causing imbalance and ill effects.

They've been here all along, and in the shadow of the history of Humanity they've played a very close role; there wasn't always such a separation. Humans have a tendency towards elitism - there won't be information or help given so that this tendency can cause destruction again.

Oh, is that right? "Free will must still be upheld to go against it would to be going against Universal core Laws causing imbalance and ill effects." Says who? You?

Can anyone show me this intergalactic constitution where these laws are written?

They've been here all along? Yes, you are totally right about that part, but they are not "aliens" from another galaxy somewhere, they are spiritual beings who reside in a different realm than ours.

Originally posted by strawberry91
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Do you believe in reincarnation? Do you believe in evolution of conscious?

Well that depends on what you mean by 'believe.' We can 'believe' in anything, I can 'believe' that pink dinosaurs live on Pluto. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, but I could still 'believe' it.

I think a better question would be "Do you believe something like reincarnation is possible?" And my response to that would be "Yes."

Do I believe in the possibility of consciousness-evolution? Sure, of course.

Do I KNOW if those 2 things are real, nope.

This thread has been very interesting so far. There is a lot of common ground and it is giving food for thought. What is clear to me is that we are realising - and so is Science - that our perception of the world is quite deceptive. When cracks appear in the shield there is opportunity to gain knowledge.

Leaving the occult out of it, there is still the question of the left and the right side off the brain. Perhaps we should endeavour to slightly suppress our logical left side and let the intuitive and creative right side become more active. What better timing to do this than now when everything is being questioned.

Originally posted by Diplomat

Originally posted by 11118


If advanced benevolent beings came to our planet they would love for us to know about "it".

Free Will must still be upheld to go against it would to be going against Universal core Laws causing imbalance and ill effects.

They've been here all along, and in the shadow of the history of Humanity they've played a very close role; there wasn't always such a separation. Humans have a tendency towards elitism - there won't be information or help given so that this tendency can cause destruction again.

Oh, is that right? "Free will must still be upheld to go against it would to be going against Universal core Laws causing imbalance and ill effects." Says who? You?

Can anyone show me this intergalactic constitution where these laws are written?

They've been here all along? Yes, you are totally right about that part, but they are not "aliens" from another galaxy somewhere, they are spiritual beings who reside in a different realm than ours.

The core foundation of the Universe is Free Will. Infringing on this Free Will causes imbalance or malicious reactions until such imbalances reach equilibrium. You can see ill effects of infringement on the Free Will in such anomalies such as rebellion towards laws used for control and in some cases even enslavement. You are born with Free Will - you have the right for freedom of choice in any matter, in any instant. If you are in a prison you can still make choices and are Free to express your Will however you please.

Your latter is quite correct. They are spiritual beings, the Universe is a spiritual entity this is including you. Do they exist in different realms? Yes, intelligence outside of the Earth exists on all levels including in our "realm"; however, the word realm is a insufficient word - just as dimension is, as it expresses a locus or point/location. A higher or denser level of awareness or understanding would be more of an adequate approach as you already exist in all dimensions ad infinitum simultaneously you just may not be aware of this....yet.

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In no way I had the intention to talk to you as if I was talking to a brainwashed Christian. Sorry it might have came out that way. I respect your opinion, and I believe it as well. I just believe there is MORE to your theory. There are spiritual beings yes yes yes, I do believe. We are deceived everyday, yes I know, it's very sad. I see this conversation probably won't lead anywhere, we both have our opinions. It was pleasant nonetheless, but I won't add anything as it will lead to nowhere.

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Well again, let me share my view with you and anyone else who cares to read,

say that "aliens" are actually are actually related to us. Most of the ones watching over this planet anyway. They are our spiritually evolved ancestors who are here to watch over us to make sure we dont completely destroy each other. Notice how there seemed to be a flurry of them around right after world war 2? Want to know why? We finally created one of the biggest threats to our existence=nukes. I know you heard the stories about ufos deactivating missiles. Do you remember the news report that seemed to show a ufo tracking the iranian missile? Yep...that was no coincidence. Me personally, I am in no fear of an all out nuclear war because I dont believe they will allow it.

Oneday when our little minds can comprehend it, they will make themselves known to us and we will start the next step in our exciting journey.

Who knows, in a future life when we are more spiritually evolved we may be watching over the earth

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I agree with your 2nd paragraph, but the 1st paragraph... not so much.

Give me an intergalactic spaceship, give me the coordinates of a planet that is in trouble or enslaved, and I will go there right now and let them all know that "aliens" exist, and that we will try to help them, regardless of their "free will."

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If they are so benevolent and go around "stopping missiles" then why didn't they do something to thwart those bombs that were dropped on the poor Japanese people? Nice going benevolent aliens, you sure dropped the ball on that one.

Edit: The other guy will probably pop in now and say "It would have been against the Japaneses' free will." lol