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Originally posted by strawberry91
reply to post by Diplomat
The abductions are where the grey aliens come in to play. They are the evil ones, they do not even have souls. They abduct us to use our DNA to help them carry on their species. They cant reproduce at all, basically I guess you could say they are just clones
Originally posted by crowdedskies
As for the cloaked UFOs that I have observed and filmed, they are circular shadows that travel behind clouds and follow the contours of the clouds. If there is a break in the cloud they become totally transparent. Therefore it makes you wonder why they don't just travel across a clear sky and be invisible. Instead they hide behind a cloud and move in a furtive fashion clearly showing their circular shadowy outline
Originally posted by strawberry91
reply to post by Diplomat
I believe in government conspiracy to a certain extent. I understand that many things are not what they seem and some abductions may very well be because of government projects.
However about the greys, I have to disagree with you. I cant go into it really, I dont have the complete story yet. I believe grays are biblical demons also, but I dont take the bible completely to heart. (Not that I dont believe in God, but I reject all religions)
Originally posted by strawberry91
reply to post by Diplomat
Id like to know how you define occult exactly? And yes I hear about that reference alot.
Originally posted by Diplomat
beyond the range of ordinary knowledge or understanding; mysterious.
Originally posted by Gab1159
Well I see where you're going. I mean, I know about dimensions and densities and vibrations and all. I know there are spiritual beings, in unquestionable. However, the only thing that bugs me in your demonstration is that you attribute almost every UFO sightings and abductions to either spiritual beings or elitists. I mean, certainly, it's true to a certain degree, but you can't rule out E.T.s all at once.
I do believe the Greys exist. Some of them have been caught, and we (elitists) think they're coming from the Zeta Reticuli star, hence their Earthly name: the Zetas. This is a well documented phenomenon, with many, many credible testimonies (pilots, army personal, CIA, govt. members, astronauts). A lot of them said there are extraterrestrial and they walk among us. Creepy, yes, improbable, yes, possible? YES! There are several footages leaked (or live feeds) out of NASA archives that (almost) clearly show 3 dimensional solid crafts hovering in the skies (think about the battle of LA www.youtube.com... ), in orbit around Earth (Tether incident, link already posted in this thread), or even on the Moon (www.ufocasebook.com...), along with supposed bases.
For me, there are spiritual beings AND aliens, and they all have an agenda, be it good or not.
Originally posted by Diplomat
An interesting side-note regarding Area 51 is that a man named Jack Parsons (Parsons crater on the Moon is named after him) along with Aleister Crowley held an occult ritual in the desert where Area 51 is now. Story goes (yes, this unfortunately is just a story as far as I know) that Parsons literally opened up a portal out there in the desert, a portal that connected our dimension with a different dimension, and this is supposedly why the secretive military installation was built there in the desert.
Originally posted by zorgon
Yes there are many such portals in the world and the government studies them. You may be interested to know that Pine Gap in Australia sits on one such site...If you get a gravity and magnetic anomaly map of Australia you will see Pine Gap sits right on top of the strongest spot
There has long been 'rumored' that you can walk through a door at Area 51 and step out in Pine Gap.
Do you have a link to this 'story'?
Oh Nevermind just found it
www.abovetopsecret.com...
edit on 6-11-2010 by zorgon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by strawberry91
reply to post by Diplomat
Do you believe things pertaining to the occult are evil? I am just trying to completely understand where you are coming from by the way.edit on 6-11-2010 by strawberry91 because: spelling
Originally posted by dplum517
Gotta love the ridicule when you post UFO threads. lol.
But seriously, this guy IS onto something. I look up every single day, clouds or not. I have seen these UFOs and they do things that are out of this world. I would lean towards them being "Drones" of some type before a living entity. I only say that because of how many times I have seen them by themselves, in groups, in formation, and several arrive scattered about in the sky within the blink of your eye. People need to account for History. If you do not have a very good understanding of history them you don't deserve to voice an opinion on this topic. Anyways, good post and I can't wait for everyone to face the truth.
Originally posted by 8fl0z
reply to post by strawberry91
'___' is a bad drug.
This man is crazy, utterly crazy.
I believe in UFOs, but i dont think they hover over every little town on Earth.
Originally posted by dplum517
reply to post by Diplomat
I am thinking logically. Also I find it quite insulting for you to even fathom what I have seen. DO NOT attempt to explain something to me in which you do NOT know of. And really?? You think you are intelligent enough to try and give an answer as to why Aliens would be here. Keep thinking my friend. The reasons are endless as to why an Alien race might be here. So please save your obsessive skeptic behavior for your personal life.