Sex Offenders Have Nowhere to Live

Originally posted by Dawgishly
reply to post by dbloch7986

 

You can post a viewpoint in support of rapist and pedophiles, but I also have the right to express my view that certain henious sex crimes should be considered capital crimes eligible for the death penalty.

Nice try at stiflying freedom of expression.

Actually i specifically said I wasnt looking for a superficial response.

If your solution is to "kill them all" then express it, but not in a superficial one lined post like every other person here that had a similar thought has.

Originally posted by cybertroy
The unfair labeling of some people who weren't really committing a sexual crime, now that's problem in itself The law book should not be so rigid that people get unfairly labeled. Now, that's out of the way.

Now, to the real sex offenders. Ok, so there is a person who committed a sex crime. In simple terms, people can change, and if they can demonstrate that they have changed and are worthy of trust, I think the label should be lifted. This is the same as alcoholism and labeling it as a life long affliction, which is BS. If you aren't drinking anymore, and you aren't going to drink anymore, then you "are not" an alcoholic.

Here's how it should go. You remove the sex offender from the environment. They work on handling the problem. Once the problem is handled, and trust is earned, and amends are made, then the label is removed. You never leave a label on a person who has truly changed; to do so is degrading.

These folks could live in a monitored area together, until they are "clean." Once they are clean, then they can live where they want.

Troy

Great post. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I think that is an excellent solution. Once the person has been reformed the label is removed.

Then we move onto the next topic of an effective rehabilitation method, which we currently do not have.

reply to post by LadySkadi


No its no different than the hatred of muslims.

You're being shallow and failing to read into what the original post I was replying to said.

Child rapists are viewed worse than murders. Yet how is taking a life less bad than raping someone? I would rather be raped than killed any day on a personal level. It is witch hunting. Lets find someone to hate and hate them worse than anyone else out there. Lets hate muslims and sexual deviants worse than serial killers and child sweat shops. Lets focus our efforts and spend our money on detaining sexual deviants over feeding all the starving people on the planet.

reply to post by slugger9787


I didnt say I would let him live with me.

I said he should be allowed a place to live. Better than having him roaming the streets.

If you're going to be a typical shallow individual and not think any deeper into things than whats on the surface of your mind, then dont bother posting. I am not interested in ignorant thoughts. This pertains to the ramifications of things onto society as a whole. If you're one of those people that says, "as long as they're not near me, I don't care," you are shallow and thoughtless. I do not want to hear what you have to say. You can post here if you want but I will ignore you.

There are several topics being discussed here.

The difference between sex offenders and sexual predators/violent offenders.

The reassimilation of criminals as a whole back into society.

How to deal with violent sex offenders.

The witch hunt against sexual deviants and pedophiles.

Anything along those lines is acceptable.

Again, if you are a shallow person who doesn't think beyond how things affect them personally, then your opinion is worthless here. If you're coming in to talk about, "oh but my kids, but me, but i, buy my, my, my." I frankly don't care. What I DO care about is thinking about this on a MACROscopic scale.

reply to post by dbloch7986


Point 1: It's quite a bit different than Religious dogma and the stereotypes that surround the Muslim vs the West ideology.

Point 2: Your constant assertion that those who choose to make specific points are being "shallow" over and over and over again are painting you out to be "closed minded" and unwilling to accept that others do not hold a similar view as you...

Point 3: As long as a comment is on topic, you do not have the ability to censor it. It is what it is...

Actually, some people change on their own. A dedicated decision is sometimes all it takes.

Technology does exist to change people, but I know better than to bring it up here, this being a conspiracy forum and all. I don't want to drag the organization through the mud. Some topics don't go well here. I know solutions are out there, put it that way. Moving on.

Back to my first point of people changing on their own. Dad did it with Alcoholism and smoking. He quit both cold turkey, and never went back. And this was a man who was in the bar daily. He was at deaths door with alcoholism. You have to be able to make that decision, hold onto it, and make it a reality.

Troy

reply to post by dbloch7986


I don't have any children.

If someone commits a serious sexual crime against a child, then they should never be released.

The potential for them to reoffend is too great a risk to take, considering the potential consequences of the crime.

Parents do need to take responsibility for their children, but they can't watch them all the time.

The only way that you can make sure that your child is safe, is to keep them in the house all day. This is obviously not possible.

You can never stop children being harmed or attack, but authorities can help lower the chances of this happening, by keeping people with a proven track record of this behaviour, incarcerated indefinitely.


We should never forget the fact that criminals chose to commit their crimes, with all the consequences that entails.

Innocent lives should never be put at risk, in an attempt to help a convicted criminal.

reply to post by cybertroy


agreed, my best friend was the textbook example of partier, drank his pay away every weekend, barfights, jail etc, when he found out he was going to be a dad, he stopped cold turkey
this was 12 years ago, and i am still having a hard time to enjoy a drink when we go to atlantic city!

Another angle to remember, is you can get labeled a sex offender without actually harming anyone. Get caught with pictures or videos and you are treated the same as someone who raped another person. A virus could potentially download pictures and videos onto your computer, and alert authorities, and you would be given the same label as a rapist.

reply to post by dbloch7986


Your thread is based on emotions of
sadness and ashamed that we would
make sex ofenders register and relocate if convicted.

These guys and girls are not victims of society either before they did the crime or after they did the crime.

They chose with their free will to break the law.

Kansas sentences conviicted sex offenders to prison, and shortly before they are to be released, Kansas declares them mental wards of the state and locks them in a mental ward till they die.

Originally posted by TheApachekid
Even Jesus
of the bible said it would be better to tie a stone around your neck and jump of a bridge than to hurt a little one.

Excellent advice to anyone who has urges to molest a child - especially those who kid themselves it's "love".

There's no excuse. Seriously, any decent person would choose to kill themselves rather than do sexual things with a child. If they lack the guts to do the right thing themselves, and do molest a child, the state should put them down like the sick puppies they are.

Accomodation for convicted paedophiles?
Sure, in a 6' deep hole.

reply to post by dbloch7986


Move to Galveston Texas, thats got to be the most sex offender friendly place I ever been to, I was walking down the street once with my life360 sex offender map app turned on....




JAYSUS!

It was like they were every where! EVERY BLOCK! atleast 1, up to 4 or 5, EVERY PLACE! THE WHOLE ISLAND.

and these weren't you pissed in public offender as the app told me their offense.

Originally posted by BlackOps719
Not to bring politics into the subject, but all of you liberal ACLU types really are something. You people spit on an American soldier who has to fight and risk life and limb for his country, yet you embrace something as vile and hideous as a podophile as "misunderstood" and deserving of protection under the law. You bend over backwards to see that a molestor's rights arent violated.

Absolutely sickening.

Painting everyone with a broad brush is sickening.

I'm a left-winger, (Liberal, in Australia, is right-wing,) who does not judge soldiers, even if I believe the wars they fight in are evil. There will be good ones and bad ones, just like with any other group.
And I'd like every sane adult who has sexually molested a prepubertal child to be dropped into molten lava.

It's my opinion that many of the people defending paedophiles on forums, whether or not they are lumping them in with sex offenders in general, are members of NAMBLA, trying to make society more paedophile-friendly.

Originally posted by dbloch7986
reply to post by LadySkadi

 

No its no different than the hatred of muslims.
You're being shallow and failing to read into what the original post I was replying to said.
Child rapists are viewed worse than murders. Yet how is taking a life less bad than raping someone? I would rather be raped than killed any day on a personal level. It is witch hunting. Lets find someone to hate and hate them worse than anyone else out there. Lets hate muslims and sexual deviants worse than serial killers and child sweat shops. Lets focus our efforts and spend our money on detaining sexual deviants over feeding all the starving people on the planet.

Linking Muslims with convicted paedophiles must be the sickest, most cowardly defense ever.

What part of "raping a child leaves the child damaged for LIFE," don't you understand?

Murderers sometimes have an excuse, such as long term abuse from the victim.
There is no excuse for a sane adult to rape a child, ever.

Originally posted by SilentStigma

Kill people for Sex acts is Immoral? Really? I bet if your kids were Molested by a kid toucher you'd feel much different.

"If you had an extreme amount of bias you would express bloodlust and act like a sociopath, too"

In my opinion Molesters and Rapists = automatic death, We dont need that trash in society.

edit on 5-11-2010 by SilentStigma because: Clean up post.

Sorry I forgot that you were the Monarch of life and it is your divine rigfht to decide who deserves to live in YOUR society.

Typical Arrogant Americian Syndrome.

"I'm the only one that truly deserves life unless I say otherwise!"

"Society should be this way and everyone needs to act and believe what I say and think as proper and adhere to MY moral standards! Sieg Heil!"

Originally posted by dbloch7986
I also think sex offender laws are far to strict and that we are on our way to burning at the stake anyone who bathes their child or changes his diaper. Or even takes a picture of their kid in the bath.

Boy is that a stretch.

If we don't make life easier for sex offenders then parents will be convicted?

Nope. I don't buy it. Using someone who has kids as an excuse to protect someone who has sex with kids is not even close to being a logical argument.

Make life as hard as you can on someone who wants to have sex with or molest children. Maybe it will give the potential offenders a reason to think twice.

As far as a judge legislating from the bench in the name of fairness...that's a big steaming pile of activism. Fairness is a lie. The laws aren't made for fairness. They are ultimately made to protect the criminals.

Used to be, murderers, rapists and child molesters were simply put down. Now the law protects them from being put down by the rest of the public but doesn't protect the public from the criminals.

Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by dbloch7986

 

Point 1: It's quite a bit different than Religious dogma and the stereotypes that surround the Muslim vs the West ideology.

Point 2: Your constant assertion that those who choose to make specific points are being "shallow" over and over and over again are painting you out to be "closed minded" and unwilling to accept that others do not hold a similar view as you...

Point 3: As long as a comment is on topic, you do not have the ability to censor it. It is what it is...

Actually, hijacking the thread to express your views on something that is completely against the direction stated in the OP and not constructive to the argument brought up, but merely a dead-ended one-liner that you have regurgitated in other threads is called trolling. The OP openly stated that thiss thread has nothing to do with killing off sex offenders.

And it is shallow, because many sex offenders, as stated many times in this thread, aren't exactly dangerous people that sleep with their girlfriends that are 1 or 2 years younger than them and are later charged by the girl's parents because 17 is the magical age that the state came up with to enforce conservationism on free minds.

Calling it not shallow is shallow in itself.

Please read the thread .

I have read a lot of replies which state that persons should be condemned for every infraction they ever commit.

Sex offenses....Whatever!.

I really wish more people realized the truth about a lot of this.

No one is protected from anything in this disguised anarchy,you just pay and pay for hollow promises.

The only promise that needs to be kept is the promise of redemption!.

The legal system in the US has been turned into a self propagating monster of a trap,and a lot of you feed it by wishing such harsh penalties on others for whatever crime they may commit.

Be careful what you wish for,you might just get it.

You might find out the hard way that you resemble that which you condemn.

The only thing that can protect your children is you,so stop chasing your tails.

In the end,some will learn that things will happen no matter how closely they watch,life goes like that.

Redemption has to be available for everyone,or it is not available to anyone.

Such cannibals most of us are.

True criminals have no conscience.

Denying redemption to those who would change their ways only guarantees they will offend again.

I mean,why bother doing the right thing when it makes no difference if you do or not?.

The system feeds and grows on your ignorance.

The true problem is in the mirror,you condemn anyone and you condemn yourself.