Sex Offenders Have Nowhere to Live

reply to post by LurkingSleipner


Aparently you do not see a difference between people can be reformed and people that can't. First offenders might have a chance at being reformed, but the guy on their 3rd conviction has proven they can't change.

And yes, you should be judged the rest of your life based on your past actions. Your actions are a reflection of your character. If you have screwed up majorly (and all of us have), you own up to it and deal with the consequences for the rest of your life. There is no free pass in life. There are no do-overs or resets. You made a decision, a wrong decision, and now you have to deal with what comes with that.

Originally posted by BlackOps719
Not to bring politics into the subject, but all of you liberal ACLU types really are something. You people spit on an American soldier who has to fight and risk life and limb for his country, yet you embrace something as vile and hideous as a podophile as "misunderstood" and deserving of protection under the law. You bend over backwards to see that a molestor's rights aren't violated.

Absolutely sickening.

Yes, yes. All liberals hate American soliders and not the American Military. We also love child molesters and want them everywhere.

Congratulations, one of the most superficial things I've ever read.

Why don't you label it and askl the government to deal with it for you.

reply to post by The Sword


The price is right

reply to post by silo13

The facility that you mentioned, does do what is being mentioned here, it is taking the violent sex offenders, confining them, giving them treatment and if they finish the treatments, and are able to prove that they no longer are a threat to society and are willing to be good citizens, they are then able to petition and get transfered to another facility and possible be able to be released back into society, having paid their debt. People going there are not expected to remain there for the rest of their lives, rather it gives them an opportunity to become rehabilitated and able to intergrate back into society. And what it also does, that is not seen in alot of other states, is follow up and after releasal counsling for those who are released back into society.

What is it with you and the death penalty? What a mind you must have lol

I'm anti-vindication and pro-justice.

Killing people for sex acts is beyond immoral vengeance.

Perhaps you missed this little snippet in the OP in your eagerness to rant about how you want to kill off all of your problems:

Kill people for Sex acts is Immoral? Really? I bet if your kids were Molested by a kid toucher you'd feel much different. In my opinion Molesters and Rapists = automatic death, We dont need that trash in society.

Hmm. I think people's perspective might change if you had a multiple child rapist suddenly move in next door to you and your children...

reply to post by dbloch7986


You can post a viewpoint in support of rapist and pedophiles, but I also have the right to express my view that certain henious sex crimes should be considered capital crimes eligible for the death penalty.

Nice try at stiflying freedom of expression.

The unfair labeling of some people who weren't really committing a sexual crime, now that's problem in itself The law book should not be so rigid that people get unfairly labeled. Now, that's out of the way.

Now, to the real sex offenders. Ok, so there is a person who committed a sex crime. In simple terms, people can change, and if they can demonstrate that they have changed and are worthy of trust, I think the label should be lifted. This is the same as alcoholism and labeling it as a life long affliction, which is BS. If you aren't drinking anymore, and you aren't going to drink anymore, then you "are not" an alcoholic.

Here's how it should go. You remove the sex offender from the environment. They work on handling the problem. Once the problem is handled, and trust is earned, and amends are made, then the label is removed. You never leave a label on a person who has truly changed; to do so is degrading.

These folks could live in a monitored area together, until they are "clean." Once they are clean, then they can live where they want.

Troy

reply to post by GoalPoster


Yes, but why shouldn't you be just as worried that your neighbor who is not going to become a first time offender? Why should you worry that the store clerk, the teacher at school, the police officer, the bus driver, ad infinitum is not also going to commit a sex offense? Just because someone did it once doesn't lower the chances that someone else that you know is going to do it for the first time, or has done it already and not been caught.

In California sex offenders are required to notify the neighborhood, post in the local post office and they are tracked online.

reply to post by oozyism


The fear of something like that is the fact that it removes the free will of an individual. You're literally giving them behavior altering drugs. Thats the reason I wont take any psychotropic drugs.

reply to post by Sherlock Holmes


Actually the only way to prevent criminals from being tempted to reoffend is to actually assimilate them back into society. Your viewpoint of "they're not my problem; i shouldnt have to care about or for them; i shouldnt have to worry about my kids." These are all problems inherent in the fabric of society. Every human being is every other human being's problem. Your kids are your responsibility to protect from harm. Its obviously ridiculous to expect that no harm will ever come to a child, which is yet another proble in society.

It is preferable to everyone around to just sit in their house and put on their blinders and just live their life with utter disregard to the world around them.

Its like these kids that get statutorily raped by their teachers. Didn't the parent wonder why the kid was spending so much time with the teacher, alone? And why the teacher would text the kid, call them on the cell phone, call them at home and so on? The parent in most cases either had no idea that was going on or swore it was innocent. In both cases it is because they would prefer to put their blinders on and pretend it wasn't happening than face the truth: their kid was spending an extraordinary amount of time with the teacher, and was developing a personal relationship with the teacher that was not consistent with the normal student-teacher relationship.

But people choose to think that the world should be made safe for the children by third parties instead of seeing that they should accompany them through their young life showing them the ropes and protecting them from outstide influences. The responsiblity of having a child has been shunted off to the government (aka the schools which are a part of the government). People feel the police and the congress and the state should make the world around them safer, instead of creating their own safe environment by standing up and uniting against criminal forces.

It is nearly impossible these days to take action like that. Why is that? Because people have handed over responsibility to the state in the form of teachers, police, prisons and CPS.

reply to post by whyshouldI trustyou2619


If someone assulted my child, I would probably kill them too.

Should we stage a mass execution of these people? Maybe we should. Will it happen? No it won't.

Next.

reply to post by TKDRL


You are exactly 100% right.

This hatred of child molesters and rapists is simply a stage society is going through. As soon as the media decides to sensationalize something else, then there will be a new enemy.

Excellent post. Thank you.

Originally posted by sdcigarpig
In the country as it stands, the understanding is that a person accused and convicted of a crime, goes to jail or prison, does his time there, and is released, having served his sentence, and then is said to have paid his debt to society. But society often continues to punish the individual, making them a pariah and forcing them to offend and commit another crime, thus returning back to jail or prison, and thus starting a very vicious and cruel cycle that neither helps the person or society. Nor too is there any means to help and treat these individuals,. Society, as civilized and advanced as we are, still goes by the age old saying, an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. If we did that, then the world would be just a bunch of toothless blind people running around.

I love this.

This is exactly what I have been trying to say.

Thanks for posting!

Originally posted by dbloch7986
reply to post by TKDRL

 

You are exactly 100% right.

This hatred of child molesters and rapists is simply a stage society is going through. As soon as the media decides to sensationalize something else, then there will be a new enemy.

Excellent post. Thank you.

Oh, I'm sure you are exactly right. Peoples hatred of child molesters and rapists is just a stage we are going through .... kinda like when my cousin liked to wear black lipstick in high school .... ya, I get what you're saying.

Geezus. Pathetic.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
dontcha love the heavy browed, torch waving, pitchfork bearing mentality here?
like I said, we're DE EVOLVING as a society

Great point. Thank you.

This is what I have been trying to say.

I dont think it is a it is a passive de-evolution. I think that it is actively being done. I think the intention is to turn society on itself. You see the distrust of people here of the "sex offender next door". Well anyone could be that person. Even if they aren't convicted. It is the same thing as the communist craze of the cold war.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Exactly what I have been trying to say!

Great post! Thanks!

reply to post by Donkey_Dean


You see how the idea of "sex offender" was used to con you into giving this guy 75 years? It is exactly what is plastered all over this thread.

The number of actual sexual predators the violent dangerous ones, is sparse compared to the people that, like you said, should be allowed a much lower plea bargain.

reply to post by dbloch7986


Under what conditions would you invite a convicted, discharged from jail sex offnder into your home to live?

You know a homeless pedophile to live in your house with you and your family?

reply to post by BrainGarden


This is exactly the kind of thing I think goes on.

Seduction is a hell of a tool for a 16 year old that looks like a grown woman. Especially if she wants to trap a desparate man into supporting her.