Obama "visit" to India costs 200 million. Per day.

Originally posted by Curiousisall
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Do you honestly believe that this trip is costing more than the war in Afghanistan? If so can you please offer some justification?

I did not mention Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan.

Did I?

reply to post by butcherguy


1. Bachman is lying, because she isn't exactly checking her figures. She's just using "what is being reported". Or what is being said.

2. A bush admin staffer said those numbers looked ridiculous as well.

I have asked where anyone in authority has said how much this trip is really going to cost, that's all.

Doesn't anyone wonder why they don't just tell us some figure?

Originally posted by butcherguy
It does say what a Clinton trip to Africa cost some years ago(5.2 M/day) but that really doesn't tell us what this trip is costing, does it?

edit on 5-11-2010 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

OK, let me just guess that it would be $15M per day. A significant number to be sure, but look, it's an order of magnitude less than the scandalous number alleged in the hoax.

reply to post by Stewie


nearly 3000 VIPs,300 CEOs are going with obama
56 warcrafts are deployed in indian ocean.mumbai is on high alert.
special forces including FBI,CIA agents are in mumbai
as india is worst hit by terrorism than it is neccesary to spend huge amount of money for the security of mr prez

reply to post by HunkaHunka

A bush admin staffer said those numbers looked ridiculous as well.

That's fine, I am not arguing that the $200 million/day figure is right by any means.

But I would like to know how much it is going to cost. I should say is costing us, the preparations have been underway for a while now.

reply to post by buddhasystem

OK, let me just guess that it would be $15M per day. A significant number to be sure, but look, it's an order of magnitude less than the scandalous number alleged in the hoax.

Agreed, wholeheartedly.

But the number you have provided is a guess.

I am looking for some harder figure. Like I have said before, when someone throws a number like that out there, why not debunk it with the actual smaller(?) figure.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Complete myth...


ac360.blogs.cnn.com... rss%2Fcnn_ac360blog+%28Blog%3A+AC360%29


Bachman is a liar

Okay, I read the Anderson Cooper article.

Where does it say how much this trip is costing per day?

It does say that the $200 million/day number is 'likely inflated'.

Not a total debunking in my definition of the term. What is it going to cost?

It does say what a Clinton trip to Africa cost some years ago(5.2 M/day) but that really doesn't tell us what this trip is costing, does it?

edit on 5-11-2010 by butcherguy because: (no reason given)

From CNN:

For example, an 11-day trip by then-President Bill Clinton to Africa in 1998 involved about 1,300 people cost $5.2 million a day, according to the federal Government Accountability Office, which adjusted for inflation.

The press she was referring to is the Press Trust of India, one of the largest news organizations in that country. Its source for Tuesday's article on the cost of Obama's trip was based on a single anonymous source: "a top official of the Maharashtra government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit."

Source: www.cnn.com...

*Clinton took 1,300 people (well more than Obama is taking)
*Clinton's trip encompased 6 countries (Obama's will only cover 5 countries)
*Clinton's trip was 11 days (Obama's is going to be 10 days)
*Clinton's spent $5.2-million a day (adjusted for inflation)

Using the information above, one can surmise that Obama's trip will cost about the same. Even if he spends twice that amount, it's still 1/20 of the $200 million/day that has been alleged by a lone anonymous source that reported this to the India press.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Curiousisall
reply to post by butcherguy

 

Do you honestly believe that this trip is costing more than the war in Afghanistan? If so can you please offer some justification?

I did not mention Obama's continuation of the war in Afghanistan.

Did I?

I did not say you did.
I mentioned Afghanistan.
It was part of my question to you.
Did you not read my question to you or did you not understand it?

Originally posted by butcherguy
That's fine, I am not arguing that the $200 million/day figure is right by any means.

But I would like to know how much it is going to cost. I should say is costing us, the preparations have been underway for a while now.

Presidents travel. It costs money. They do not disclose costs until after the trip for security reasons. Obama is not doing anything new and the next president will not be avoiding trips.

anything reported by FOX involving Obama, i do not believe. they have lost their credibility. they create their own news, and then use it as a source. i now always start with that premise. the right wing needs facts and they simply do not provide those. why do people even give them credibility, when with everything else on this site, they require proof.

Originally posted by jimmyx
why do people even give them credibility, when with everything else on this site, they require proof.

Right on!

$200-million a day is an extraordinary claim.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Unless one is a political wing-nut; in which case, anything said by an anonymous blogger is accepted as absolute fact.

Originally posted by Curiousisall

Originally posted by butcherguy
That's fine, I am not arguing that the $200 million/day figure is right by any means.

But I would like to know how much it is going to cost. I should say is costing us, the preparations have been underway for a while now.

Presidents travel. It costs money. They do not disclose costs until after the trip for security reasons. Obama is not doing anything new and the next president will not be avoiding trips.

Exactly right. No administration discloses the amount it costs to travel due to security concerns. But, they are eventually made public via the Government Accountability Office.

Also, the "source" probably stated the cost in rupees. 200 million rupees = about 4.5 million dollars.

reply to post by Curiousisall
I almost ignored it in that I didn't answer it.
If you have to wait as long as I am to get an answer to my question, it could be a while.

But, believe it or not, I am not a bad guy, so I will answer your question. No, I do not honestly believe that the presidents trip is costing more than the war in Afghanistan.

Now, please look at your question as you put it to me.

Do you honestly believe that this trip is costing more than the war in Afghanistan?

As written, it would seem to a person that is not familiar with the back and forth of this conversation, that I alluded that the trip would cost more than the war. I did not, that is why I mentioned that fact and did not answer your question, which was not really relevant to said conversation.

reply to post by rockieboy
A star for your post.

I finally got an answer that makes some sense. The rupees vs dollars is a stupid mistake to run with, but at least I have some clue where the figure came from.

For those that weren't paying attention, the source is this...

www.ndtv.com...

Not a blog, not fox news, not a made up internet story.

How accurate? I don't know, perhaps they will do a follow up since it has gotten so much attention. I would like to see this "source" elaborate a bit.

Originally posted by Stewie
For those that weren't paying attention, the source is this...

www.ndtv.com...

Not a blog, not fox news, not a made up internet story.

How accurate? I don't know, perhaps they will do a follow up since it has gotten so much attention. I would like to see this "source" elaborate a bit.

That "source" got their information from a lone anonymous source. Not an anonymous blogger, but holds the same credibility.

Originally posted by jimmyx
anything reported by FOX involving Obama, i do not believe. they have lost their credibility. they create their own news, and then use it as a source. i now always start with that premise. the right wing needs facts and they simply do not provide those. why do people even give them credibility, when with everything else on this site, they require proof.

Fox is the only news source that doesn't report the liberal talking points word for word. That is why they are the most watched news network. I'm sure you don't listen to Rush, I don't much either, but he has these segments I LOVE where he will play many different audio clips from different news networks/agencies from the same day and they will all report on the same liberal talking point and use the exact same phrases.

reply to post by butcherguy

Actually that is incorrect, the Indians DO know how to count.

See the article. 900 crore approximately.

en.wikipedia.org...

Ok, this thread needs to have two things happen:

1: Someone needs to prove the title of the thread to be true...which is impossible. How would the visit cost more per day than we spend in Afghanistan?

2: We need to stop posting these random anonymous source threads. $200 million a day, Obama's marriage is disintegrating, Obama is going to be outed, etc. Look into whether there's something to back up statements.

3: We need to crunch the numbers and see how much this trip will cost and if it's actually more extravagant than every one of Bush's trips, every one of Clinton's trips, every one of Bush Sr.'s trips, every one of Reagan's trips, and so on backward. If it's common practice, it's still bad, but not something that can be specifically pinned on Obama.

4: We need to stop jumping on the first hint of craziness and look at things rationally.