ANOTHER POSSIBLE way of deciphering the message from Cassini/Saturn 2004?

reply to post by etcorngods

Cheers I'll check those during my free time thank you.

First of all a great post ch1n1t0 S+F.

I indeed believe that the audio contains a hidden message and your train of thought has certainly struck a chord with myself and fellow members. For me though, although there is symmetry I'd like to see some audio comparisons to be sure this is a unique situation. If indeed the audio does have an embedded message I think it would be hidden a little harder than an simple audio -> image conversion, although I admire your presentation of the subject with your instructions for members to repeat the experiment.

How much do we actually know about decoding attempts on this audio file, after all I'm sure some of the greatest decoders would have spent some time looking at this given the reward if a message is found.

Has it, for example, ever been played through liquid (i.e underwater), through binary conversion programmes, reversal. I spent some time researching equidistant letter sequencing (ELS) and it's quite surreal how we perceive patterns from randomness, I guess most people would know the 'looking at clouds and seeing images' experiment.

I'm not saying you aren't on to something but imagery is very open to interpretation and I don't think an ET message would need to be - with the correct decipher the message will be undeniable imo.

reply to post by digitalf


Thanks for your kind words and your research on the topic, however, the symmetry is no longer a subject of speculation - it is caused by the original signal's samplerate being 5kHz ('original'=Cassini website), and a simple mistake I've done while editing the file in both two different programs I tried the experiment with (Ableton Live and FL Studio).

I can go further, but I don't want to repeat myself, please, refer to the posts on the previous page

And to remind you - this doesn't explain the signal itself. It still remains a mistery, however, it is totally out of my league... I am just your friendly neighbourhood question asker that saw a mistery that he, himself, created by accident due to some lacking in certain engineering skills and knowledge And attention.

Cheers!

reply to post by ch1n1t0


My applause to you for finding the true cause of the symmetry, and the way you explained the process. As I said, the symmetry was interesting, but I was almost positive it was a technical issue. In my post I didn't mean to imply that the symmetry was a natural occurrence, but that the way it was being observed by others on this thread seemed to be a result of the "Rorschach effect", which is only natural. My goal was to interject some rational thinking as to the source of the signal. Magnetic fields emit radiation that can be detected as a frequency. The problem as I see it, is that some people are willing to make that blind leap into "alien land" at the first hint of an anomaly. Which detracts from the credibility of this subject. Personally, I'm only interested in the physics of the alien phenomenon. Their manufacturing processes, communication, energy sources, circuitry, etc. Which is why I first came to this thread. It's my belief that space and time travel are only engineering problems which we have yet to overcome. Their politics or ours are of no concern to me, but a message would indicate communication. Which would be the result of a technology. However, I doubt that something as arcane as radio would be their main choice as a means of discourse with another race. It would seem likely that they would have moved beyond such an unreliable means of communication. Physics is now showing that information can travel faster than the speed of light by the opposite spin of identical particles, no matter the distance between them. A device from this this technology would make it possible for an alien traveler to communicate with it's home world in real time. Eliminating the need for a radio transmission.

OP thanks for your honesty. I have to point something out, you claim to be a skeptic, but I noticed even you were left in amazement and could see the possibilities

reply to post by GeisterFahrer


All credit on the explanation go to rickyrrr, I tried a couple of things and just verified his theory.

By skeptic, I meant regarding the signal and this specific case. And especially regarding the origin of the symmetry, that's why I directed the search in that direction first, rather than looking for a message inside. I always held a 50/50 ratio between the possibilities this to be explained, as well as not. It's always one of the two so in that situation you're never disappointed in the result.

As in general - I know life outside Earth exists, because I realise how small we are in the first place. Just take a note at when digging deeper and finding answers, we instead find twice more questions... Also, I know that INTELLIGENT life outside Earth exists. What I still don't know, for sure, is if they've been in contact with us. And oh, boy, I've seen UFOs once in my life, this August, taking in consideration the place, intensity, length, character and detail of our sighting it can be only two things - either gvrmnt crafts, or ET such. And from what I saw, I hardly believe that we're that advanced, although, taking a number of facts in consideration, I still remain in the 50/50 position. There's more to the sighting and if you're interested, it is on ATS already and is easily findable. Although not having direct connection to this thread, just worth the mention.

reply to post by ch1n1t0


My sighting was the reason I joined too. Before I had the experience, I was never interested in UFO's and thought people were slightly "off" if they claimed to have seen one.

Now i know better. I also know there are many intentional hoaxes out there, but your not one of them

thanks again.

Wow, I wish I had seen this thread earlier. Totally agree with the aliasing discovery, which is really a Lloyd's mirror broadband interference pattern caused by multipath transmission of fundamental frequencies being beat together causing various nulls and strengths as the signals go in and out of phase with each other.

I was a sonar analyst in P3 aircraft in the service, and these patterns readily showed up on our instrumentation as we recorded submarine and ship traffic in the world's oceans via sonobouys ( radio hydrophones dropped in to the water).. Analysis of the patterns actually produced bearing and range information using some very sophisticated equipment.

Great Post! and love the science and analysis that comes with taking a complex effect and applying technology to figure out what you are really looking at!.

Originally posted by Reddupo
No doubt I can make out some sort of alien figure in the Cassini spectrogram, but it could just be a confirmation-bias. Have you run other [similar] sounds through the spectrograph to see if the same ambiguities show up?

Its a phenomenon called Pareidolia.

hi ch1 great thread prity exciting too , but one thing has been going throu my mind all today is ive always herd ailians ( e.t's ) dont they comunicait throu telapathic thouts or something like that , but then again if they were sending us a messige i supose they would transmitt it vier microwave or somthing simaller, but then if they sent us a signal you'd think it would be clear an understandable.
but then even if they did get a message from ailians we would never hear it, thanks again for a great read and everyone elses effert

reply to post by ch1n1t0


Love the info...great "out of the box thinking"

I have started using this method www.abovetopsecret.com...
with astonishing results...now I want a second monitor...so I can live in 3d...
Who knew crossed eyes was betterr....lol

Just posting this cuz I think you can use it for future things...incase you were not aware of it.
Besides i am too affraid it will just stand up and walk out of my monitor.

Um never mind...the pics seam to be removed...but any pic when layed side by side with another exact copy...this can be done!~

God (UFO/ET/Alien) has used this incredibly clever way of delivering many messages to us. He has trained me to decode the messages.

The messages are contained in the method chosen of transmitting the messages. The messages are contained in the word "Saturn", and the messages are delivered by association with other "Acts of God" recently delivered (mostly unnoticed) by God.

You must realize that the possibilities of delivering coded messages in a single, 6 letter word "Saturn" are enormous. God created the English language. and precoded it to contain messages. God uses the arrangement of letters to deliver messages. God is all powerful, can do anything he wants --- like writing messages and art on the surface of the Sun, like creating artistic Crop Circles, Spiral shapes on the Sun, and spirals and spaceships in space. God creats millions of "Sightings" --- yet no physical evidence. He, can of course, control any and all of our minds -- like causing millions of smart engineers and scientists to believe in the Truther version of 911 when the evidence is overwhelming that what happened "couldn't have happened", but it did, and is therefore an "Act of God".
God (UFO/ET/Alien) has used this incredibly clever way of delivering many messages to us. Over the last 25 years, he has trained me to decode millions of hidden messages.

You can also learn. But like anything worthwhile, it will take work on your part.

The messages are contained in the method chosen of transmitting the messages. The messages in the words used to describe things that happen. The word "Saturn" contains many messages. The messages contained in the Saturn transmission are delivered by God, in association with other "Acts of God" recently delivered (mostly unnoticed) by God. (Haiti earthquake and drawings on the face of the Sun – the Olympic emblem, Spirals on the Sun and in space).

You must realize that the possibilities of delivering coded messages in a single, 6 letter word "Saturn" are enormous. God created the English language, and pre-coded it to contain messages. God uses the arrangement of letters (decoding matrix) to deliver messages. God is all powerful, can do anything he wants --- like writing messages and art on the surface of the Sun, like creating artistic Crop Circles, Spiral shapes on the Sun, and spirals and spaceships in space. God creates millions of "Sightings" --- yet leaves only mystery, no physical evidence.

He, can of course, control any and all of our minds -- like causing millions of smart engineers and scientists to believe in the Truther version of 911 when the evidence is overwhelming that what happened "couldn't have happened", but it did, and is therefore an "Act of God".

The date of the 911 events converts to the word "Religion", as does the word "Saturn". Since the 911 events were impossible (for many reasons), they have to be considered an "Act of God". It should be obvious that the 911 events were also a reaction to the runaway law breaking and crookedness of Wall Street.

The word “Saturn” converts to the words “Be Rich”, and “Corn Gods Warn” (referring to ME and the hidden messages of the ET Corn Gods language.

The fact that the picture from Saturn looked like the Shroud of Turin is a message about the "Second Coming" -- it is happening now, and ATS is a part of the revelation.

If you ever invented anything, you know how hard it is to get God to give up his secrets. Deciphering the images and words from Saturn will take argument and research.

An overall message of the ET Corn Gods translations is the importance of engineering and science and innovation over BS.

The word “Mute” converts to “MBA Boss”. If any of you have had to deal with any of those MBA morons, you can relate to that.

Hang in there – you will learn important things by sticking with the messages – and will help improve the world.

OP -- nice job on the Thread

(hidden meaning of "Thread": = "Truth Read", or "Truth Ahead", or "Rut Rut Rut read".)

reply to post by etcorngods


I believe the word "Saturn" points to the date "2010 AD, October 31" -- tomorrow, Halloween.

Does anyone know what date the Saturn message was received by the NASA spacecraft?

Has anyone tried to expand the photo? I mean stretch them a little bit since the photo looks like it has been compressed. Let us see if we can find some noticeable figures if they are stretched a little bit.

Great thread...

Now we know it's aliasing.

Did anyone try this technique w/ the SETI Wow signal? (As someone suggested earlier?)

I think you are all doing great and working as a team...so nice to see.

I don't know much about signals and all that but since I have had interaction with other life forms I know they use different frequencies just need to find the right frequency..... I remember mention long ago them saying...... low frequency wave lengths does this mean anything.

Sorry about my stupidity on this.

Originally posted by ch1n1t0

Is it me or does anyone else see the egyptian god Anubis in this picture? I know that we are programmed from birth to see images, but that was a little freaky seeing it right off the bat.

Originally posted by UnknownSheep

Originally posted by ch1n1t0

Is it me or does anyone else see the egyptian god Anubis in this picture? I know that we are programmed from birth to see images, but that was a little freaky seeing it right off the bat.

I saw master chief from Halo.

Originally posted by ch1n1t0
reply to post by DutchBigBoy

 

EDIT: CLICK FOR IMAGE: img841.imageshack.us...

I have to admit, that even with the skeptic in me being ready for action to the fullest, this is disturbing.

edit on 27-10-2010 by ch1n1t0 because: add photo

EDIT 2: look at the image without zooming in to its original size, but look at it as a whole...

edit on 27-10-2010 by ch1n1t0 because: 2nd edit

Holy Crap!!!
That made my heart skip a beat. I know what you mean.

Originally posted by ch1n1t0
reply to post by Quadrivium

 

These do resemble the spectrogram from Cassini very much, imo, although this doesn't necessarily mean they are directly connected...

www.nicolasfournel.com...

Everyone who is interested in creating sound from images, either they are from the Turin shroud, or crop circles, try this software. It will take out all of the fun you guys could have, if I do it for you. I don't think that there would be any significance after converting a certain image to sound - all it does is just creates spooky sounds, and whenever you transfer an image to sound, you will get quite similar results in the character and timbre of the finished sound. And they would hardly mean anything, unless one wants too bad to hear something specific. However, I'm curious if any of you will find something interesting, especially from crop circles. Just don't give it too much of a hope to hear something specific as a spoken message...

Thank you for that.

I will have a lot of fun with this