A Serious Warning for All

reply to post by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet


Yes, it's true because I say so! That what trust is. A belief, not tangible. That's all you have to go on for your belief that everything we say is a lie, see? What is the difference?

reply to post by jennybee35


Are you referring to Jesus? I don't except Jesus any form. Because he goes aganist the belief in Judaism. Sorry! But that's mine and numerous other Jews opinion. But you're happy and that's what matters!
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I'm waiting for the Messiah in Judaism to come and bring him to the mainstream.

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I don't except Jesus any form

But that is just the problem, you do "except" Him! You'd be a helluva lot better off "accepting" Him!
Yes, I am happy, and hope that you are, too!

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Gurrr! Read my other thread and comment it! I don't Jesus to be happy. But hey! What ever floats your boat.
"Then the LORD said, 'I do forgive, just as you have asked.'"
Numbers 14:20 (NRS)

reply to post by ImAnAlienOnMyOwnPlanet


If you are referring to that post where I said he had planted the info millenia ago, no, I meant the adversary, the shining one, whatever name you want to give the father of liars and murderers.
The only one to gain from misleading mankind for thousands of years is "satan".

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What other thread? Link me, and I'll read it after a round of guitar hero! And I was making a dig at you, I hope that you are happy with your choices, really. There is precious little else to be happy about these days!

reply to post by jennybee35


Satan is different in Judaism. He is a tempter. Basically he does what God commands for him to do. Since he is an Angel. Angels do not have free will. Only humans have free will.
Great article on Satan and Angels

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www.abovetopsecret.com...
Here you go! It explains the concept of the Jewish Messiah and what he is supposed to accomplish to prove he is the Messiah. Straight out too!

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I'll check it out shortly, thanks!

Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
Satan, with help from mankind, has managed to distort and twist the truth so that bits and pieces of it can be found everywhere - but ultimately there is only ONE Truth and that is Yahweh's Truth. We can't cherry pick and choose what we like and don't like from multiple belief systems. That is why Yahweh has warned us and why He is angry. Because we (mankind) have turned our back on Him in disobedience and disbelief. And now, we are being told either accept Him in Truth, or perish. Time is up.

I don't suspect that you will read this or even so much as consider these words, but I hope you at least try to be a little more open minded regarding this topic, please....

You are correct, Time is up.. but not for the reasons given. Time is up for mankind because we are a non-sustainable life form on this world due to our Greed, Poisoning everything we make and touch and the control mechanisms of the TPTB in this world who keep you down for fear of losing their power over you.

To specifics...

Yahweh is the Hebrew God, Yes?

Yahweh is the same God of Genesis, Yes?

Then Yahweh, the God of Genesis... is Enlil, the oldest son of Anu of the people called Anunnaki. And the history of 'Him' is repeated in the Torah and the Bible because the Sumerian History is the Origins of Genesis.

The hebrew lived in Sumer before going to Egypt. So they were Sumerians who brought an expurgated and condensed version of that History with them as their first books of the Torah... Genesis in your Modern Bible.

If you BELIEVE the Biblical Genesis, then you are forced to also Believe in the Original Source of Genesis.. like it or not.

Time is also up for Indoctrination into the Belief-System Edifice of our Culture as more people begin to realise that it has always been a Control Mechanism to prevent you from doing exactly as Jesus did in his life and said we too could do.

Yahweh has not warned us of anything... man in his writings have claimed a warning in order to keep you in line and under control.

Why? Because like the little ants in the movie Antz you have all the Power of Choice right now to change all the inequalities of the world around you. But, those few families who have held the reins over this world for far too long are in FEAR of your learning exactly how Powerful You really are.

If we understand the Origins, then we understand what is at stake here and why it is so very, very important to take of the Blinders placed on us from the moment we were born to this world and the Cultural Indoctrination process began.

Time is up. Time is Now. Time to Wake Up now. Time to finally see through the Control Mechanisms so that you can perform your role here as an Active Participant in the much needed Changes required for humanity to survive here another century or two.

ps... no offence intended with the strength of my words here. We are running out of time to wake up from this Dream that was forced on us by TPTB.

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You're welcome!
Take it easy!
Being alive is difficult. Yet we can all make it!

reply to post by Tayesin


Great post. I couldn't agree with you more ,but its even more that the bloodlines are orchestrating this Harvest and probably using HAARP type scaler wave technology, possibly co-op with those negatives you touched on a bit.

And we need to wake up and get real quite quickly.

Originally posted by Tayesin
Time is also up for Indoctrination into the Belief-System Edifice of our Culture as more people begin to realise that it has always been a Control Mechanism to prevent you from doing exactly as Jesus did in his life and said we too could do.

Well said my friend. Well said indeed. I thank you for adding this to the conversation.

With Love,

Your Brother

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Yes, that means God is angry.

Yahweh is always angry and often over the dumbest of things imaginable. For instance in the Bible Lot's wife is turned to salt for looking back toward Sodom and Gomorrah yet only a few verses earlier Lot was offering his virgin daughters to be raped by an angry mob and yet he didn't get punished. The punishment for rape in the Bible is paying a fine and then getting to marry the woman you attacked while the punishment for working on the Sabbath is death. And remember that time Yahweh decided it was the innocent children of Egypt who deserved to be mercilessly slaughtered instead of punishing just Pharaoh and the Egyptian slave owners that wronged his people?

Satan is not the cause of what is occurring in the world via natural disasters, plagues, pestilence, financial crisis and all the rest. It is Yahweh’s will and it comes directly from Him. He is the One in control, and the One whom is nature.

Well yeah, of course. When, in the Bible, does Satan ever cause plagues or natural disasters? It's always Yahweh because he's always angry and always out to destroy people. Satan usually minds his own business in the Bible and when he doesn't he gets his butt handed to him - Yahweh on the other hand condones slavery, genocide, and plans on burning the majority of humanity in a fiery lake for all eternity. Hmm... which one of those sounds evil to you?

Mankind is under a curse and belongs to Satan.

Oh man, I would feel so much safer in Satan's hands. Seriously re-read your Bible, whenever the world is in Yahweh's hands it goes TERRIBLY. Read Genesis, within two chapters Adam and Eve are already getting cursed by Yahweh for listening to a talking snake. A few Chapters later God decides to kill EVERYONE. Fast forward a bit, he destroys Sodom and Gomorrah, then kills babies in Egypt, then decides every last person in the city of Jericho also deserves to die... I mean no offense but God does an obscenely poor job running things. When people make mistakes Yahweh usually just kills them... yep, those who don't obey the Lord usually get killed or end up burning for eternity BUT HE'S JUST SO MERCIFUL So I hope you're right about the world being in Satan's hands.

Does this frighten you? It should, because it is not a joke.

This does frighten me but not because I believe in any of it, but because it actually seems like you DO. How do people who believe in this sniphole of a God sleep at night? I mean all Yahweh does in the Bible is slaughter or command the slaughter of people, often times INNOCENT people and children. Then he plans on throwing the majority of humanity into a lake of fire simply because they didn't decide to believe in a story about some guy who claimed to be the son of God and is said to have come back to life. The God of the Bible is a psychopath.

It is not Yahweh’s will that anyone should perish

You just got done listing numerous verses that show that not only is its Yahweh's will for people to perish but he's been supposedly planning it for centuries.

Congratulations, you win my Daily Face Palm award,

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Does this frighten you? It should, because it is not a joke.

This does frighten me but not because I believe in any of it, but because it actually seems like you DO. How do people who believe in this sniphole of a God sleep at night? I mean all Yahweh does in the Bible is slaughter or command the slaughter of people, often times INNOCENT people and children. Then he plans on throwing the majority of humanity into a lake of fire simply because they didn't decide to believe in a story about some guy who claimed to be the son of God and is said to have come back to life. The God of the Bible is a psychopath.

It is not Yahweh’s will that anyone should perish

You just got done listing numerous verses that show that not only is its Yahweh's will for people to perish but he's been supposedly planning it for centuries.

Congratulations, you win my Daily Face Palm award,

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Ever dawned on you that it can be DANGEROUS to slander Gods like Yahweh?

The question about who will judge mankind when the great catastrophe arrives is very interesting I find. Is it "nature" or "Gods" or someone else? People believe in catastrophes since they happen all the time and people believe they strike anyone coincidentally.

People nowadays do not believe in Gods since they rarely reveal themselves to people and the trend of society is towards having science as a religion and everything else is deemed superstition.

In fact science has found out we have cells, molecules, atoms, electron, protons, quarks and neutrinos in the more microscopic dimensions. However, we can not look at the plane of those dimensions, only a single point can we see in a microscope. So with scientific means we can not know how those worlds look today.

In fact, we know we live between cells and planets, that is our human dimension.

Who lives between Atoms and Molecules?

It is said that Buddha(God) bodies have atoms as their surface material. In that case they can walk straight into your body and do whatever they want to you. Imagine a Buddha is upset with you, he could just finish your life at any given moment, just walk into your brain and do it. His world would be huge too and he would be able to levitate since atoms have no limitations of gravity. Is it not extremely likely that there are intelligent beings in the microdimensions?

The more microscopic dimension the more powerful God since he can control everything which is more macroscopic than him..

Was it not said in the old days that slanderring Gods was extremely dangerous?


In old times a suspected criminal in this country got glowing iron bars in his hands. He had to walk a few steps with the iron bars in his hands. If he was in massive pain he was judged guilty(and had to suffer the pain from the massive burn wounds) and if he could not feel the pain(the burn wounds would be minor and heal quickly) it was said he was innocent and his wounds were minor, healed quickly and did not hurt at all.

Gods punished or acquitted him it was said and the King´s law just made it easy for Gods to judge people. Also this procedure strenghtened people´s beliefs in Gods and it was said this system was infallible.

Nowadays people don´t believe in Gods at all so their thinking is completely different. Now people think they have taken the places of Gods and can judge people and do as they please.

The only thing forgotten is this, Gods live in more microscopic dimensions(the higher level the more microscopic) and can go straight inside your macroscopic cells and do whatever they want with you, including taking your life away. Imagine a God living

It was said in old times: Accumulate karma, receive immediate retribution in this life or in your next life. If a certain bad sin was performed your life would be in danger now, immediately, it was told.

People now don´t believe in this principle but I tell you something. I really believe in that principle without a single shred of doubt. There are higher dimensions, more microscopic than ours, and intelligent beings called Gods live there.

Just imagine what Gods can do to you when they go inside your brain.

Imagine what a demon can do to your thinking in your brain, he is also more microscopic than you.. Hence the old saying "Demon possession" arrives to a person with alot of karma.

A demon likes to stay with people who have alot of karma since that person is made up by that granulated material, the same material as the Demon has. Hence the saying "like attracts like"...

Gods like to stay with people with lots of virtue since these people are more high frequency and have a fine-grained building material which is much more microscopic than karma.


Most atheists have a very hard time denying the microscopic dimensions since science acknowledges them. The fact that all beings in those dimensions would be able to control us no matter whether we like it or not is just common sense. Of course, you could say that these dimensions are all empty but how can you know? Is it not likely they are filled with other worlds, just like a crystal has the same world repeated over and over again into more microscopic dimensions.

In the face of this information, is it not scarying to deny Gods or slander them? It is really scary. Do you know how much karma that single slanderring accumulates?...

What happens when your macroscopic cell level body dies? Your atoms will not die at all, only the cells will slough off. Where will that atomic body of yours go and who will take care of that body after death? How shall the karmic body of yours in that dimension where it resides be eliminated?

The above said things are only my personal reflections at my personal wisdom level and have nothing to do with Falun Dafa or its scriptures. I can offer no truth at all, only my thoughts at my current wisdom level.

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Ever dawned on you that it can be DANGEROUS to slander Gods like Yahweh?

Has it ever dawned on you that it could be dangerous to slander Gods like Zeus, Odin, Shiva or Quetzalcoatl? What about Darth Vader and Santa Claus? Ever worry about slandering them? I don't worry about slandering Yahweh because Yahweh is a fictional character.

the trend of society is towards having science as a religion and everything else is deemed superstition.

Science is not a religion it is a process, a method for discovering things. When was the last time you heard of a scientist sacrificing virgins to a Bunsen Burner or proclaiming the existence of something without first finding some evidence of it?

Imagine a Buddha is upset with you, he could just finish your life at any given moment, just walk into your brain and do it

Yes and while I'm at it I might as well imagine a purple polka-dotted penguin named Steve could also end my life at any moment. Why should I live my life terrified by unverified supernatural beings? What exactly gives said beings permission to walk inside me and kill me at any moment? And, without any evidence supporting their existence or their potential deadliness why on Earth would I believe in them? I'm not afraid of Buddha, Yahweh, elves or the Easter Bunny because none of them have ever been shown to exist and are, as far as anyone can tell, entirely fictional. I'm not going to live my life forcing myself to be reverent to a laundry list of beings that are indistinguishable from the imaginary.

Was it not said in the old days that slanderring Gods was extremely dangerous?

Was it not also said that women didn't count as citizens, that children were okay to have sex with and that Native Americans had no souls? Yes, lot's of things WERE said in the old days, some of those things were smarter than others.

Nowadays people don´t believe in Gods at all so their thinking is completely different. Now people think they have taken the places of Gods and can judge people and do as they please.

Not sure where you've been but now-a-days there are still thousands of gods, some gods even have BILLIONS of people believing. Atheists and agnostics such as myself only make up about 10-15% of the world's population. So how exactly do you come to the conclusion that nowadays people don't believe in God's when a whopping 85% of people still do? So people are not allowed to do as they please? Where does God get off giving us FREE will and then say we can't do as we please?

Imagine what a demon can do to your thinking in your brain, he is also more microscopic than you..

You're right, I would have to imagine what a demon could do to my thinking, mainly because demons do not exist. Demon Possession is something used to label people who had mental illnesses or disorders before modern medicine and science figured that stuff out. Also, my body's immune system pwns germs any day, if some imaginary demons want to mess with my body they are welcome to try, my anti-bodies are very good at defeating imaginary microscopic demons.

In the face of this information, is it not scarying to deny Gods or slander them? It is really scary.

Yeah, to the gullible, superstitious, and ignorant I imagine it is pretty scary. But to those of us not living in the Dark Ages, eh not so much.

Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by Gaussq

 

Ever dawned on you that it can be DANGEROUS to slander Gods like Yahweh?

Has it ever dawned on you that it could be dangerous to slander Gods like Zeus, Odin, Shiva or Quetzalcoatl? What about Darth Vader and Santa Claus? Ever worry about slandering them? I don't worry about slandering Yahweh because Yahweh is a fictional character.

I just told you science has acknowledged atoms, molecules, electrons, neutrinos etc and what does science know about the plane between ie atoms and molecules? Nothing, science can only see a dot and not the plane between atoms and molecules. I am a physicist so I know a few things about these things and it eally makes sense too.

In fact, science knows nothing about these dimensions and neither do everyday people. That does not mean there is not a world inside there with intelligent beings. Would they not be infinitely more powerful than any human beings? They can walk inside of you and take away your life at any given moment, and you can do nothing about it.

That being said, some people(ie atheists) will not enlighten or listen to the fact that science acknowledges other dimensions since many decades.

And science acknowledges it knows nothing about the worlds of those dimensions.

In my opinion, Gods are microscopically built beings that can become huge or microscopic in size and they rule you all the way from birth to death. You have been given a free will to do what you want and it is a test to see whether you want to be good or bad. The consequences come naturally. Also, your life is also planned in detail by higher beings and you can only change small things by your own doings. Hence it is predestined when you die etc.

Everyone who goes against the inherent laws of this universe(Truth-Compassion-Forbearance) will pay the price after death or during life(if his sin is too massive) depending on the choice of higher beings.

Originally posted by Gaussq

Also, your life is also planned in detail by higher beings and you can only change small things by your own doings. Hence it is predestined when you die etc.

Everyone who goes against the inherent laws of this universe(Truth-Compassion-Forbearance) will pay the price after death or during life(if his sin is too massive) depending on the choice of higher beings.

We are not powerless little bad souls my friend, we are the opposite to that.. massive and powerful in our own right. this is so because we each are portions of the Aware and Energetic Universe.... a little quote along those lines....

"We are energetic probes created by the Universe. And it is because we are possessors of awareness that we are the means by which the Universe comes to know itself"... Don Juan Matus.

We have all the choices in every moment of life. Nothing is Fate, nothing is set in stone. And none of it is ever forced upon us by anything like a Higher-Being... we are in essence, at our Soul levels of Awareness those very same "Higher Beings".

The small portion of Soul that reaches into the denser layers of energy called the Akasha chooses life experiences as we humans choose a holiday itinerary.. we allow for many billions of options for choice. And when that portion of Soul reaches even further into denser energy to become the "Driver" of the physical body, it then makes it all up as it goes based on the choices it wanted to have.

Each of those choices are an intersection in Life and each choice made takes us in another direction to that of a different choice we could have made then. Because of this.. there is no Fate, there is No Set Time to Die. Each stream of choices brings us to the end at different times depending on the choices made and the roads taken

Going one step further, we are already Ascended Masters.. because we have already "ascended" out of other worlds of experience prior to volunteering for this little one called Life on earth. We, the Souls, have been around since this Universe first diversified intself in order to learn about itself. We are not small and insignificant things by any means other than our currently Limited Perceptions brought about by Cultural Indoctrination from the moment of our birth... this is what caused us to think so small mindedly, to limit what we can experience of this Universe.

This is not information I read from books, nor is it anything from any Belief-System I chose to be attached to, nor is it anything I was taught by any human being.. this is information I Remembered/Learned through actually getting out into the Awareness Stream from a very young age to explore what exists outside our Limited Box of Perception.

That is may have some new-agey, religious, faith-related sounding concepts, but, it adheres to none of those things, nor owes them anything. It is simply how I have experienced it since I was a little boy, and why I am here to share the easiest ways to experience directly for yourself.

Belief Systems are the Limitations on Experiences you can have. And there is no subsitute for Experience my friend.

Originally posted by Tayesin

We are not powerless little bad souls my friend, we are the opposite to that.. massive and powerful in our own right. this is so because we each are portions of the Aware and Energetic Universe.... a little quote along those lines....

We have all the choices in every moment of life. Nothing is Fate, nothing is set in stone. And none of it is ever forced upon us by anything like a Higher-Being... we are in essence, at our Soul levels of Awareness those very same "Higher Beings".

As I see it you, as an everyday person, are extremely powerless until you have cultivated up your xinxing(incl. virtue, moral, tolerance, endurance, forbearance etc) level and achieved some Gong(energy) level. Do you have supernormal powers? Can you see other dimensions? If the answer is yes you have some Gong but probably still not very much of it.

With a very good inborn quality some people can see some things and do some supernormal stuff but usually they loose the abilities once they become adults and become attached to showing off and material stuff etc.

Why are you powerless?

You are down here on earth, the very bottom dimension of this universe where you are not allowed to see other dimensions without a special effort, and you most probably fell down here because of your previous wrongdoing. Hence you live in a maze and delusion with lots of karma wrapped around your virtue and your main primordial spirit.

Every disadvantage has an advantage so this suffering in the maze will make it possible for you to cultivate up and go back to your original home up there as a God. Your original level may be low or high and a God can be low or high too.

Yahweh must be considerred a high God since he is above Tataghata level(Jesus and Buddha Shakyamuni´s levels)....

Accept that you have karma and that you need to pay it back with some suffering while raising your xinxing(incl. virtue, tolerance, endurance, forbearance etc) level. Cultivate your body, mind and soul. Then you can go back home to where you came from and get all your original power back.

Of course there are exceptions to this rule like Gods choosingto come down here and they have no karma and do not suffer any hardships while they cultivate.

Also, remember cultivation pays no attention to form(choice of religion etc) but only to your xinxing level.

Hence I agree that human beings have a potential to realize great power but as everyday people they are powerless and will cycle through "Samsara" until they either cultivate up or accumulate so much karma that their virtue is finished and by then they are completele destructed.

And it is true, you can do whatever you want to, you have a choice to do either virtuous acts or karmic acts. After all, you are in the maze and are tested to see whether you can enlighten to the fact that being a good person is the most important. Suffering hardships are good since they eliminate your karma(your old debts).

I recommend you to read the book Zhuan Falun(the main book in the Falun Dafa self-cultivation system) and start self-cultivation so you can get up to higher grounds and experience the higher dimensions during meditation:

www.falundafa.org...


PS: I can offer no absolute truth at all, only my wisdom at my current cultivation level. My current "truth" is constantly changing as I raise my level and see higher truths.

Originally posted by Gaussq
Accept that you have karma and that you need to pay it back with some suffering while raising your xinxing(incl. virtue, tolerance, endurance, forbearance etc) level. Cultivate your body, mind and soul. Then you can go back home to where you came from and get all your original power back.

As a Soul I am journeying through a series of experiences here that I chose, with agreements between myself and other Souls to co-create shared experiences. Hence since we have agreed to share such things, there is no Karmic Debt to be had. And at a soul level of awareness we do know that all Experience is Valid, otherwise there is no reason for having the Experience of this World.

I do not see Karma as a tool of retribution, and certainly having no Value Based Judgement involved or Debt Owed. Such concepts are out of date now and have no relevence for where we as human beings are heading as we Awaken past our dearly held Beliefs.

My experience of Karma is only of a mechanical system that responds to my thoughts, words and actions in a very natural way so that what I instigate will flow on to it's natural conclusion. And that it will do so without adding or bringing anything I could consider to be a payback.

It has no good or bad to it, it is only what it is.. a simple system. Thus I need not repay anything or receive negative for something I did in any life including this one.

Although I am sure if I Believed in the standard concept of Karma then I would experience it in the standard way. Hence my attachment to Any Beliefs would create my reality, as do your's and everyone else's.

Originally posted by Gaussq
Hence I agree that human beings have a potential to realize great power but as everyday people they are powerless and will cycle through "Samsara" until they either cultivate up or accumulate so much karma that their virtue is finished and by then they are completele destructed.

Souls only remain here until they are done with their choosing, there is nothing forcing us to return.. well, except the Belief that we are being forced to return, lol. We have been all things on this world so far, and we are all here again to partake of the next step in human evolution with the exciting experiences it has to offer.. when human beings are Awake, being the higher-self in all it's wisdom and power while in the flesh.

Originally posted by Gaussq
I recommend you to read the book Zhuan Falun(the main book in the Falun Dafa self-cultivation system) and start self-cultivation so you can get up to higher grounds and experience the higher dimensions during meditation:

No thanks friend. I have no need to delve back into the Limitations inherent in the Boxes of Belief on offer here.

I have been journeying since early childhood, firstly the lower dimensions called the Astral, and beyond into what I call Soul levels, then further to what I call Over-Soul levels and even further into levels of Awareness beyond the Universe, beyond the Multi-verse to levels of Awareness that I have never seen written about, never heard spoken about or so much as hinted at by any available Belief-System on offer in this world.

Why Limit yourself by becoming involved in any one Belief-System offering? I do understand that many begin their journey of Awakening by such means, and many stay Asleep happily within those Limitations, while very few ever go beyond the comforting confines of the Systems in order to discover the bigger picture reality for themselves.

Thank you for the time you have spent with me. Be well.