A Serious Warning for All

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


If I may, with all due respect to the author(s) and the understanding that I am as much questioning as asserting anything herein:

Christ Jesus said at Matthew 10:34 "Don't assume that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

While illuminists and scholars labored over rendering the gospels from their original form into a useable manuscript uniformly acceptable to the established and accepted doctrines of the church, it is possible that this is a mistranslation. Being neither a scholar nor an expert I relay the thought to allow for dialogue on the matter. A salient example of a conflict in translation was cited here;

The Book of Kells, a Celtic illuminated manuscript copy of the Gospels, uses the word “gaudium” meaning “joy” rather than “gladium,” which means “sword” -- rendering the verse in translation: “I came not [only] to bring peace, but joy”. It is unknown whether this was an intentional or accidental change.

While Satan works to maintain “peace on earth” and halt prophecy, mankind is alienated from God. What was prophesied long ago is currently taking place and will continue to until the battle of Armageddon.

Yahweh agrees with what Christ Jesus said.

Ezekiel 29:8 "Therefore this is what the Lord GOD says: I am going to bring a sword against you and wipe out man and animal from you."

But in this passage, to whom was God speaking? The Jews? The tribe? Ezekiel? Us? The question bears examination, no?

Revelation 16:21 "Enormous hailstones, each weighing about 100 pounds, fell from heaven on the people, and they blasphemed God for the plague of hail because that plague was extremely severe."

We are currently in the Tribulation and the severity is about to become much worse. If you think things are bad now, you can’t imagine how bad they will become.

Your pronouncement that the end-times are here is perennial. We (as in those who listen to the gospel) have been assaulted with these words for nearly two millenia now. Revelation is full of the pain and suffering reason seems to demand be applied to the sinful. If the book is meant for the sinful, why warn them at all?

Satan is not the cause of what is occurring in the world via natural disasters, plagues, pestilence, financial crisis and all the rest. It is Yahweh’s will and it comes directly from Him. He is the One in control, and the One whom is nature.

This naturally follows the precept that God is Lord of all things. Whether he causes such punishment, or allows it to occur is a common point of debate; the faithful repeatedly are offered many sermons to justify it; yet it never seems in keeping with the idea that God is Love.

Psalm 83:18 “May they know that You alone - whose name is Yahweh - are the Most High over all the earth.”

Calamity will come upon mankind and it will be via Yahweh’s hand. Satan is powerless to stop Him and mankind is powerless to stop Him.

Why would the faithful try to stop him? By the measure of surrender, it would be blasphemous to do so... I wonder, would it not be equally blasphemous to attempt to hasten or add one's own judgement to that of the Lord?

Ezekiel 28:23 "I will send a plague against her and bloodshed in her streets; the slain will fall within her, while the sword is against her on every side. Then they will know that I am the LORD."

The continuous repetition of the declaration that God is Lord leads me to believe that this was a message for those who reject him; not those who believe.

Yahweh is about to bring full rebellion to Satan’s empire. As hard as he works to try and keep peace, he will not be able to halt the people from rebelling against the governments. There is a reason the job failures and the staggering economy, and the lost homes. They are all designed to culminate against each government of every nation affected by this curse from God.

I can see many parallels in our times and this idea. But elevating the social ills of the world to divine will precludes any attempt to correct the matter. This of course empowers a (or 'the') church as the only avenue of hope and protection.... seems a tad like the fear evoked was meant to drive people to the church in the hopes of redemption and perhaps being spared the full fire of cleansing. Perhaps I am wrong.

Malachi 1:4 "Though Edom says: "We have been devastated, but we will rebuild the ruins," the LORD of Hosts says this: "They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called a wicked country and the people the LORD has cursed forever."

There is focus in this passage .... "the people the LORD has cursed forever" .... now, in my understanding there is only one people that God has cursed forever .... or am I wrong about that too?

Satan will bring the nations back up from ruin for a short while, but they will not hold together. During that period of destruction, the people will curse God and seek their true benefactor that is opposed to Christ and Yahweh - Satan. The Antichrist will then make his appearance. The people will be awed by Satan’s regained powers and his strength to bring peace to this world of people. But it will not last. Yahweh will see to that.

Prophecy dictates that God will not be defeated. Why would anyone even try?

Matthew 25:41 "Then He will also say to those on the left, 'Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the Devil and his angels!"

Who is on the left? Barnes maintains that it is a reference to "the wicked." Can such a label be slathered over all mankind? Or is there a point in singling out these 'wicked' people?

All of mankind is cursed except for the remnant. Think. How many people survived the Great Flood? Sodom and Gomorrah? It will not be any different. Those events were precursors to what will occur in these End Times.

So I have heard. The remnant becomes the key of survival. I ask the question not 'how many survived," but instead the fact that there were survivors at all. It IS survivable; there IS hope.

Mark 11:12 "[ The Barren Fig Tree Is Cursed ] The next day when they came out from Bethany, He was hungry."

Mark 11:21 "Then Peter remembered and said to Him, " Rabbi, look! The fig tree that You cursed is withered."

Satan's family tree is barren and was cursed long ago. Mankind is withering under our Creator’s curse.

The fig tree; does it not refer to the lineage of the 12 tribes? Who cursed the tree... was it God or the Rabbi?

Jeremiah 17:5 "[ Curse and Blessing ] This is what the LORD says: Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind, who makes [human] flesh his strength and turns his heart from the LORD."

Does this not refer to Juda and his misplaced hope that Egypt would somehow intercede or rescue his people? Is context no longer relevant as long as we find confirmation of what we want to hear?

Mankind is under a curse and belongs to Satan. It requires effort - action on the part of anyone hearing this wake up call to get out of Satan's empire. Those that have remained are to receive the plagues just ahead. Everything else has just been foreplay. The worst is just ahead, and it's all from Yahweh.

As a presumptive member of mankind I can assure you that under no circumstances do I accept my status as property of Satan. In fact, such an idea seems satanic in an of itself. It engenders the notion that if evil should befall me I should take it as a sign of my own wickedness; a wickedness which I strive to reject. I am not of a mind to surrender to biblical hopelessness.

When Satan's empire totally crumbles out from under him and them as their Antichrist, tell them this is what will happen:

Ezekiel 33:27 "Tell them this: This is what the Lord GOD says: As surely as I live, those who are in the ruins will fall by the sword, those in the open field I have given to wild animals to be devoured, and those in the strongholds and caves will die by plague."

Ezekiel 38:22 "I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed. I will pour out torrential rain, hailstones, fire, and brimstone on him, as well as his troops and the many peoples who are with him."

Habakkuk 3:5 "Plague goes before Him, and pestilence follows in His steps."

That is the path Mother will lead Satan's followers down.

Deuteronomy 28:16 "You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country."

There will be no where to hide.

A prophetic 'given', that all shall be afflicted. To whom is God speaking? Also, "Mother?" As in, Baal? Or some other ancient 'demi-god' once worshiped by the 'outsiders'? Or is "Mother" one of Gods angels; a destroyer perhaps; I admit I was ignorant that such a being is a 'she'?

For the so-called Christian churches that claim to reveal Yahweh’s Word in truth:

Revelation 2:23 "I will kill her children with the plague. Then all the churches will know that I am the One who examines minds and hearts, and I will give to each of you according to your works."

They are cursed especially for their lying conduct in reference to Mother and Christ. Remember when Mother killed the first born males of ancient Egypt? Now she will kill the children of Satan that make up the false churches.

Which leads to the conclusion that being wrong, mistaking one church as good instead of another, leads to torment and ruin. Why does that seem exactly what a church would want you to believe?

1 Chronicles 21:27 "Then the LORD spoke to the angel, and he put his sword back into its sheath."

The only way this will happen is if they repent and accept Yahweh for who He really is - in Truth.

Otherwise, those churches professing to be true Christians will go the way of the rest of cursed mankind.

So there IS an "off" switch on this madness. And in order to bring about the recognition of the Truth, God will mash up the people into pulp, set them on fire, destroy there feeble works, and otherwise be a very nasty Deity. Hardly seems loving and nurturing,, especially considering we are his children.

Revelation 2:11 "Anyone who has an ear should listen to what the Spirit says to the churches. The victor will never be harmed by the second death."

The Wake-Up Call is this: Either accept Yahweh for who He is in Truth and turn to Him in repentance and accept Christ as your Lord and Savior with a humble heart, or you will perish at Armageddon at the hand of Yahweh’s Holy Angelic army, the Lions of Zion and lose your eternal life.

Does this frighten you? It should, because it is not a joke. And if it doesn't frighten you, that is your free-will choice also. Either way, it is up to you. It is not Yahweh’s will that anyone should perish, but it is the exercising of your own free-will if you choose to disregard the warnings...or humble yourself and take them to heart.

I am the least of God's children, I have no special sanctity or gift to rely upon to elevate me above any other person. I cannot change the manner of thinking of those revel in the coming madness, nor do I blithely believe that it will happen all by itself. I believe the message is that WE are responsible for the messes we make; and there are those who in zealous blindness will accelerate and exacerbate the horrors in a twisted sense of schadenfreude; seeking to be identified as faithful by cheering the harm and pain of others. My heart leads me to other places which do not include a God who lashes out in rage over the various grotesqueries of our human nature... a nature which any intelligent creator surely knew would inevitably manifest itself.

I respect your contention that mankind is due for a wake-up call. I just don't want God to kill everyone in suffering and pain as part of some formulaic solution to our spiritual limitations. I suspect the answer is in there.... but I don't think it comes from fixation on verbiage which demands our surrender to pain and suffering as if it were the only way to kindness and hope.

reply to post by Maxmars


Your conclusion is one of the best things I have read in almost a year here at ATS. I completely agree with you and you have somehow put into words what deep in my heart I have hinted for a long time.

Thank you very much. Peace be to you.

Originally posted by 3finjo

Originally posted by thov420
If you're right, God sounds like an immature, jealous, psychopathic murderer. Guess we really are made in his image huh?

Sadly you're right

Hannibal Lecter: Tell me, Senator: did you nurse Catherine yourself?
Senator Ruth Martin: What?
Hannibal Lecter: Did you breast-feed her?
Paul Krendler: Now wait a minute...
Senator Ruth Martin: Yes, I did.
Hannibal Lecter: Toughened your nipples, didn't it?
Paul Krendler: You son of a bitch!
Hannibal Lecter: Amputate a man's leg and he can still feel it tickling. Tell me, mum, when your little girl is on the slab, where will it tickle you?
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Lecter

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


could yahweh be an annunaki?? just wondering aloud.

Originally posted by Maxmars
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

 

If I may, with all due respect to the author(s) and the understanding that I am as much questioning as asserting anything herein:

Christ Jesus said at Matthew 10:34 "Don't assume that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

While illuminists and scholars labored over rendering the gospels from their original form into a useable manuscript uniformly acceptable to the established and accepted doctrines of the church, it is possible that this is a mistranslation. Being neither a scholar nor an expert I relay the thought to allow for dialogue on the matter. A salient example of a conflict in translation was cited here;

The Book of Kells, a Celtic illuminated manuscript copy of the Gospels, uses the word “gaudium” meaning “joy” rather than “gladium,” which means “sword” -- rendering the verse in translation: “I came not [only] to bring peace, but joy”. It is unknown whether this was an intentional or accidental change.

Gaudium is latin. Greek is the oldest known copy of this text and the word there is machaira-butcher knife used to kill and chop up animals. Also used in war.

The word sword here also follows the context of the passage.

The next passage-"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.

Now we know that Christ didnt mean a real sword but the spritiual sword. That He was like a sword cutting things asunder and seperating, breaking even family bonds. No joy here.

Originally posted by Maxmars
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

 

I am the least of God's children, I have no special sanctity or gift to rely upon to elevate me above any other person.

Consider it a blessing.

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


This is Exactly what frustrates me about others that believe in God and why i have chose to discontinue my faith in the CHURCH and not God, or Jesus. I have just stopped assuming that God is talking to me. Because of this reason. I have always second guessed myself. My whole life. Why would God give me a message. Well he did but not through me. It was my gf had told me because i dont like and wouldnt want the responsibility of that. Now that being said it is in my deepest OPINION, that concerns your view that God has given you the word to preach. I think that yes Jesus is not comming back in the happiest of moods.. Why should he when how we are treating eachother>? pure hate latetly right? At the same time, i do not see MY God just going around killing or giving that power to anyone other than one of his Angels.

Originally posted by jazabel51
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

 

could yahweh be an annunaki?? just wondering aloud.

No. Yahweh is God. He is our Creator and the energy source from which all things in His creation, both the visible and the invisible come.

Originally posted by jazabel51
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

 

could yahweh be an annunaki?? just wondering aloud.

Yes he could be. Lord God is depicted as a human in Genesis.

There is a verse in Genesis that mentions Lord God as one of three men who came to see Abraham.

Read Genesis chapter 18, verse 1 to 3.

1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

3 And said, My LORD, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron
do not cast pearls before swine, that they who know, know for the time is at hand for they that do not, there judgment has come upon them, for there has time, times and half time for them to repent, for they have not, so now he comes to harvest the wheat from the chaff, to be consumed by fire. pray ye that it be not in winter.

Originally posted by bekod
reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron

 

do not cast pearls before swine, that they who know, know for the time is at hand for they that do not, there judgment has come upon them, for there has time, times and half time for them to repent, for they have not, so now he comes to harvest the wheat from the chaff, to be consumed by fire. pray ye that it be not in winter.

You are asking that I not perform my duty to Yahweh. This is the message that I have been asked to deliver and nothing will stop me from doing my part in fulfilling Yahweh's will. Whether or not they accept these Truths is up to them. It is a free-will issue, as it has been from the beginning of the Spiritual War. I will not debate these Truths, nor will I attempt to twist arms or convince, but I will do as I have been asked by our Creator.

reply to post by Logarock


Thank you. I was wondering about that translation. It seems logical that the idea was a cutting edge which would sever the bonds of tradition.

From Yahweh Himself:

"There will be no peace on Earth until My Son's Kingdom. I will crush every kingdom now standing and rock the earth off it's foundation. I Yahweh will destroy every enemy to My throne, and who can stop Me? Who can turn back My anger? No one." Yahweh of Hosts

Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron

... Does this frighten you? It should, because it is not a joke. And if it doesn't frighten you, that is your free-will choice also...

bro you shouldn't use scare tactics to force people to come to know god. that's actually a contradiction of the message. god wanted people to come to know him by free will, not by scaring the crap out of them.

Of what value is a vague warning, about a vague occurrence, if we don't do some vague action?

Gee, thanks for the serious warning....

Why not just sum it up the way the homeless guys do on their signs? REPENT, THE END IS NEAR.

Why the long diatribe?

bro you shouldn't use scare tactics to force people to come to know god. that's actually a contradiction of the message. god wanted people to come to know him by free will, not by scaring the crap out of them.

Bah, that's New Testament warm and fuzzy God. The God of old, the one who spoke to Noah, Adam and Eve, etc., He was all about scaring the crap out of them...(you know, Pillar of Salt, poor Job, killing Egypt's first born....ring any bells?)

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


From Yaweh himself; in what way? Did he send you this info sort of telepathically? I know that's what apparently happens to some mystics...Please enlighten.
5s

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


Well if he brings a sword then I am going to bring an AK-47, and who do you think is going to win that battle huh? lol pwnd

reply to post by 5senses


i seriously doubt that. he's probably going through the same stage as a lot of charismatic christians have gone through. first they believe they've been filled with enormous spiritual knowledge. second, they feel they have to spread it. then they start predicting the end of times. it's a regular pattern i've seen in the charismatic movement

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


you write a lot of ficticious nonsense. did you dream all of this crap? it may help you to read and inwardly digest the "genesis" of creation in the first book of your continuously misinterpreted bible.

everything was made by god. if it were not so, then he/she/it would not be almighty, right?

so, cutting to the chase, the devil, satan, all the iniquities, rape, murder, killing, loving, building hospitals so people with god-created diseases can be treated, beautiful men and women, everlasting torment, perverts and spontaneous abortion, disasters and difficult childbirth; (you get the picture?)--all of these are created by and sustained by your god. (at least if we follow the bible)

now if you're going to argue that we have free will, at least bare in mind that he/she/it created the potential within all of us to commit atrocities.

what a nice psychopath you believe in.

remember, its all infinite, and with yours and mine finite minds, we barely have the slightest idea whats really going on.

reply to post by ReginaAdonnaAaron


I have a question, why do you think Yahwhee picked you over all others to deliver his message? Very curious.