Who Will Obama Scapegoat For The Economy, History Repeats Itself, Hitler Did It To The Jews?

We all quite obviously know that history will repeat itself, it always does in a cyclical fashion based upon those leaders in office, what their did right and what they did wrong, and quite often because of the conspiracies between different factions within Government, through rhetoric and politicial divisiveness, and the in-fighting of the Democratic party and Republican party, and now in the infancy of the Tea party movement, who exactly will be the scapegoat this time around?

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If we examine certain aspects of history different leaders have done it, scapegoated a certain crowd, or finger-pointing when it is often none other than the person trying to place blame upon the allegedly evil "Agent Provocatuer" is this instance.

None other is more memorable than Adolph Hitler and his blaming Germany's issues on to the Jews due to the aftermath of WWI, and the Treaty of Versailles.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Treaty of Versailles

The Treaty of Versailles was one of the peace treaties at the end of World War I. It ended the state of war between Germany and the Allied Powers.

It was signed on 28 June 1919, exactly five years after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

The other Central Powers on the German side of World War I were dealt with in separate treaties.

Although the armistice signed on 11 November 1918 ended the actual fighting, it took six months of negotiations at the Paris Peace Conference to conclude the peace treaty.

The treaty was registered by the Secretariat of the League of Nations on October 21, 1919, and was printed in The League of Nations Treaty Series.

Of the many provisions in the treaty, one of the most important and controversial required Germany to accept sole responsibility for causing the war and, under the terms of articles 231–248 (later known as the War Guilt clauses), to disarm, make substantial territorial concessions and pay reparations to certain countries that had formed the Entente powers.

The total cost of these reparations was assessed at 132 billion Marks (then $31.4 billion, £6,600 million) in 1921 which is roughly equivalent to US$ 382 billion in 2010, a sum that many economists at the time deemed to be excessive.

This was a sum that many economists deemed to be excessive because it would have taken Germany until 1988 to pay.

The Treaty was undermined by subsequent events starting as early as 1932 and was widely flouted by the mid-1930s.

The result of these competing and sometimes conflicting goals among the victors was compromise that left none contented: Germany was not pacified or conciliated, nor permanently weakened.

This would prove to be a factor leading to later conflicts, notably and directly the Second World War.

This crucible of pressure, economic distress, and boiling worry will most surely repeat itself soon enough.

World War I Documentary Vol3- 6/8 Wilson & Peace pt1


World War I Documentary Vol3- 6/8 Wilson & Peace pt2


World War I Documentary Vol3- 6/8 Wilson & Peace pt3


We're in a current state of economic depression here in America, some say it is due to George W. Bush, some say it is due strictly to Barack Obama, personally I see it as a mixture of both of them screwing the nation, as a means to usher in the conglomeration of the North American Union, but in order for this to happen the economy will have to take an even more steep and downward slope than what it is in now, and as well with China buying up America's debt, we're literally just watching and waiting with baited breath to see what spark will ignite our nation from a small flame burning our nation to a wildfire out of control towards an eventual forest fire, metaphorically speaking, to rekindle the phoenix to arise again.

Divide and Conquer : Political Ideology of the Power Elite, Selling The Peace, War Is The Motive

We're getting close to the people here in America being totally disenfranchised about the state of the nation.

No matter what is said on television, on the Internet, or throughout society as a whole, let alone the conspiracy theory community.

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If these soldiers are putting their lives on the line for our country does it really matter what their sexual orientation is?

Charles B. Rangel : Universal National Service Act, Being Investigated By An Ethics Committee,...

With our nation worrying about the nonsense with the DADT in the Military, Don't Ask, Don't Tell, especially with us being tied up on two fronts in Iraq and Afghanistan, citizens divided amongst their thoughts on these isssues as well as our soliders lives being used and or wasted, depending upon your personal perception of warfare, we must watch for not only our citizens lives beig in jeopardy overseas but as well on our homefront, I will never use the word "homeland" in describing the United States of America, it may be where I was born but those two words only remind me many different countries usage of "Fatherland" or "Motherland", and through the usage of "homeland" it detracts from what our nation is supposed to be, the home of the free and the land of the brave.

There is zero necessity in squashing those two phrases together because it is with those words we remember freedom.

If you take out "free" and "brave" you are merely a "home" and a "land" where citizens have no rights.

Or is this a more in depth and sinister agenda toward ushering not only the North American Union in?

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Through the threat of the R.F.I.D. chip process and the Real ID Act through legislsation of slave collars?

Bilderberger : The Global Agenda, Eugenics, Global Warming, And Biochiping Sheeple

One has but to wonder if our whereabouts are really that important to any Government entity, or if this is an attack upon our liberties, through a sidestepping past our 4th Amendment rights in regards to the Constitution and "illegal search and seizure" through searching our whereabouts, our database information, and our conversations because in order to do this they must first search for a problem and seize the information, and without a warrant now because we have become the threat.

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As well as this with the often invasive Government sticking their nonsese into our business, or even placing things upon our vehicles, who exactly is the enemy here in America anyway, the citizens or the terrorists?

GPS Tracking Device Found in Civilian Car

Have we lost our very right to live in peace, or are we under attack, or are we the citizens being scapegoated?

And what about the conspiracy theory community, and our "wild" and "crazy" theories, and those things we see?

Is our Freedom of Speech completely and wholly gone or have we just lost the backbone to use it?

George W. Bush on 9/11 Conspiracy Theories


Is our nation even more in a dire sense of the downward spiral after Bush with Obama as the clean-up man?

You know, for the Secret Societies, and their corporate agenda to monitor everything we do.

With the build-up of animosity after the Treat of Versailles due to WWI we look at this moment of history as suspect.

The economy was not only crippled of Germany but there was of course the Reichstag Fire which has often been compared to the events of 9/11, the similarities are uncanny, no matter your particular stance of the events of that fateful day.

The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve

For the lies to be sold to the unsuspecting public a monster must be pointed out as the trouble of which you warn them.

Reichstag Fire


Are the events of 9/11 an equivalent to Germany's Reichstag Fire and if so was Osama bin Laden the only man responsible, or are we in fact going to have another event soon enough, and other potential "terrorists" pointed out, whether an actual enemy of the state, a scapegoat, or the convenient disaster made into a event to redirect blame?

The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power

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Amazon Review :

The Bush years have given rise to fears of a resurgent Imperial Presidency.

Those fears are justified, but the problem cannot be solved simply by bringing a new administration to power. In his provocative new book, The Cult of the Presidency, Gene Healy argues that the fault lies not in our leaders but in ourselves.

When our scholars lionize presidents who break free from constitutional restraints, when our columnists and talking heads repeatedly call upon the "commander in chief " to dream great dreams and seek the power to achieve them--when voters look to the president for salvation from all problems great and small--should we really be surprised that the presidency has burst its constitutional bonds and grown powerful enough to threaten American liberty?

The Cult of the Presidency takes a step back from the ongoing red team/blue team combat and shows that, at bottom, conservatives and liberals agree on the boundless nature of presidential responsibility.

For both camps, it is the president's job to grow the economy, teach our children well, provide seamless protection from terrorist threats, and rescue Americans from spiritual malaise.

Very few Americans seem to think it odd, says Healy, "when presidential candidates talk as if they're running for a job that's a combination of guardian angel, shaman, and supreme warlord of the earth."

Healy takes aim at that unconfined conception of presidential responsibility, identifying it as the source of much of our political woe and some of the gravest threats to our liberties.

If the public expects the president to heal everything that ails us, the president is going to demand--or seize--the power necessary to handle that responsibility.

Interweaving historical scholarship, legal analysis, and trenchant cultural commentary, The Cult of the Presidency traces America's decades-long drift from the Framers' vision for the presidency: a constitutionally constrained chief magistrate charged with faithful execution of the laws.

Restoring that vision will require a Congress and a Court willing to check executive power, but Healy emphasizes that there is no simple legislative or judicial "fix" to the problems of the presidency.

Unless Americans change what we ask of the office--no longer demanding what we should not want and cannot have--we'll get what, in a sense, we deserve.

Remember, a good politician never wastes a disaster, he or she uses it to influence policy and direction.

September 11, 2001 - As It Happened - The South Tower Attack


Are we as a community being set up, the conspiracy theory community, or just certain "lone-wolf" types?

Or is this a more concerted effort to rob our Treasury of all of our money through the Bailout process?

Remember, there were all sorts of monetary links, within the World Trade Center Towers, as well as Tower 7.

Quote from : Wikipedia : List of World Trade Center Tenants

This is a list of the major tenants of the New York World Trade Center at the time of the September 11, 2001 attacks.

One World Trade Center included the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, Marsh USA, Cantor Fitzgerald Securities, and Windows on the World.

Two World Trade Center included Verizon, the New York Stock Exchange, Morgan Stanley, and Keefe, Bruyette & Woods, and Aon Corporation.

Four World Trade Center included Deutsche Bank and the New York Board of Trade.

Five World Trade Center included Credit Suisse First Boston and Morgan Stanley.

Six World Trade Center included the United States Department of Commerce and the United States Department of Labor.

Seven World Trade Center included Salomon Smith Barney, the Securities & Exchange Commission, and the U.S. Secret Service.

Remember, in any conspiracy, any investigation, any fraudulent activity, you are supposed to follow the money trail.

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The above picture is of those devices on both sides of you as you walk into Wal-Mart which scan for R.F.I.D. devices.

When you come out and the cashier forgets to demagnetize your DVD or video game or even music purchases.

This is a theft-deterrent and as well an access point, a choke-point, if you will, to be able to keep you in if you're a thief.

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With the advent of the digital age through computers, Wi-Fi, and the online environment we are being ushed not only through the cattle-gates, but into the paperless society quicker and quicker, so much so we almost cannot keep up with it.

Self Check Out System in Wal Mart


So, who is the scapegoat, who is the master, who is the slave, and who is really to blame here, the Government, or you?

IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation

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Was IBM, "The Solutions Company," partly responsible for the Final Solution?

That's the question raised by Edwin Black's IBM and the Holocaust, the most controversial book on the subject since Daniel Jonah Goldhagen's Hitler's Willing Executioners.

Black, a son of Holocaust survivors, is less tendentiously simplistic than Goldhagen, but his thesis is no less provocative: he argues that IBM founder Thomas Watson deserved the Merit Cross (Germany's second-highest honor) awarded him by Hitler, his second-biggest customer on earth.

"IBM, primarily through its German subsidiary, made Hitler's program of Jewish destruction a technologic mission the company pursued with chilling success," writes Black.

"IBM had almost single-handedly brought modern warfare into the information age [and] virtually put the 'blitz' in the krieg."

The crucial technology was a precursor to the computer, the IBM Hollerith punch card machine, which Black glimpsed on exhibit at the U.S. Holocaust Museum, inspiring his five-year, top-secret book project.

The Hollerith was used to tabulate and alphabetize census data.

Black says the Hollerith and its punch card data ("hole 3 signified homosexual ... hole 8 designated a Jew") was indispensable in rounding up prisoners, keeping the trains fully packed and on time, tallying the deaths, and organizing the entire war effort.

Hitler's regime was fantastically, suicidally chaotic; could IBM have been the cause of its sole competence: mass-murdering civilians?

Better scholars than I must sift through and appraise Black's mountainous evidence, but clearly the assessment is overdue.

The moral argument turns on one question: How much did IBM New York know about IBM Germany's work, and when?

Black documents a scary game of brinksmanship orchestrated by IBM chief Watson, who walked a fine line between enraging U.S. officials and infuriating Hitler.

He shamefully delayed returning the Nazi medal until forced to--and when he did return it, the Nazis almost kicked IBM and its crucial machines out of Germany.

(Hitler was prone to self-defeating decisions, as demonstrated in How Hitler Could Have Won World War II.)

Black has created a must-read work of history.

But it's also a fascinating business book examining the colliding influences of personality, morality, and cold strategic calculation.

Is America being scapegoated through the threat of identity theft or are we in fact repeating history?

IBM and the Nazis


Remember, you are allegedly just a number, to those in power.

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Are those of us within the conspiracy theory community seeing a valid threat or experiencing histrionics and delusions?

I know about myself and seeing patterns, disturbing patterns in fact, between a then and now, and history only waiting.

Are you a threat or are you just a number and will your number be up if you are seen as a threat?

1889 Herman Hollerith Census Machine by TMC which became IBM


To either repeat itself or shift and move with the increase towards technology towards a complete control of information.

IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market


If you're not curious yet, or opening your eyes, you might just let all of this slip past you before it is too late.

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Watch the doorways you walk through because they do not just keep you our but can keep you in as well.

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And money is not the only curency, but information, because as well all know, information is power.

It takes years for things to take effect when they are changed.

I would say that Obama would be somewhat correct in blaming the Clinton administration,since it was that administration which rescinded Glass-Steagall,which set up a legal barrier between investment and commercial banks.

Glass-Steagall was enacted to prevent another depression,or economic crisis like the first one.

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I'll be honest and say that I didn't read your thread but, what really contributed to the collapse of the economy was the repeal of the Glass-Steagall act which deregulated the banks. With less regulations the greed had the means to make even more money. You can blame this on the Clinton administration.

That with bad economic policies from Bush and company, bailouts, Obama's spending and bailouts drove it to what it is today. So you can start with Clinton and watch the s*** roll down the hill.

Also, this whole to big to fail thing added so much. If they are too big to fail then break them up. that's what helped end the depression.

The reason why these wars didn't help was because we don't have a manufacturing base to build a war machine like we did in the 30's. War will no longer help boost our economy because the spending doesn't fall back to american workers it falls to over seas manufacturers who actually build it. Corporations however, make money hand over fistand the wealth gets transfered to the already wealthy.

I will now read your post =P

S&F, very good thought out post. I know who he won't be scapegoating.......so it only leaves a couple of options, unfortunately, it won't be the ones truely at fault.

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
It takes years for things to take effect when they are changed.

I would say that Obama would be somewhat correct in blaming the Clinton administration,since it was that administration which rescinded Glass-Steagall,which set up a legal barrier between investment and commercial banks.

Glass-Steagall was enacted to prevent another depression,or economic crisis like the first one.

Of course, history happens overnight though, with certain events, and as well warfare takes decades to build up.

This is where history and warfare as well as citizenry all inter-connect and are thrust upon one another.

One cannot happen without any of the others, it is a trinity, a three-fold necessity for any sort congruence.

History is made up of events, people within them, and wars either to gain through mass-murder or fighting the peace.

Really great post.

Shame this is going to be such a short reply, You ask who will Obama use as scapegoat being an outsider looking in I have a strange opinion.....

I yhink everyone is aware that both Obama and Clinton attended the Bilderberg meeting pre election, so you had the option of a black guy or a woman in office when TSHTF.

Now I know you guys over there are just as dumb as us Brits and the majority will be led by the MSM so whos going to vote for a black guy again? We had it with Thatcher - Probably me just spouting BS but you never know lol

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Yes, of course, this is no simple discussion, as a matter of fact it is complex and diverse on many levels.

And Hitler did not just go after the Jews, he went after the gypsies, as well as anyone he did not agree with.

Is it any surprise we now have the controversy right now that we do at the Arizona border with drugs and Illegal Immigrants?

I think not.

During warfare, you must not only look in, to see who is the problem, but without for those spying and or causing harm.





If there is no convenient scapegoat laying around one has to of course be made up or refocus the attention.

Mexico : The American/Mexican Border, Why Your Rights Are Gone, Because of Arizona...

It is not just one problem or another but the focus of our eyes upon the problem right before an election as well.

What's the Going Rate for an Election Anyway?

And the building crescendo of orchestrated events leading to the rythmic upbeat of the tempo through the downtrodden.

God Bless You : Will Overthrow A Country For Food Due To The Economic Collapse

Originally posted by adifferentbreed
S&F, very good thought out post. I know who he won't be scapegoating.......so it only leaves a couple of options, unfortunately, it won't be the ones truely at fault.

Let me guess.

You?

The problem is it is not just Bush or Obama, the Democrats, or Republicans, but America in general.

We as a society are too tied up with the distractions of the bread and circuses through American Idol.

Chris Daughtry - "Renegade" - American Idol


Is it us who are the renegades and the problem or perhaps the man who the Secret Societies put into power?

Quote from : Wikipedia : Secret Service Code Names : Presidents of the United States and Their Families

Barack Obama - Renegade

This is of course a rhetorical question, certainly not an accusation, because I know who is to blame, it is everyone.

The Secret Societies, Barack Obama, and the American citizens who have neglected their duties and responsibilities.

To make sure they are politically aware of what goes on within the boundaries of our nation at the Capitol.

Or perhaps because of the incessant need to monitor the television and Big Brother instead of the Government.

BB UK 6 Dawn Caught Cheating via Coded Messages Big Brother


And American citizens forgetting their survival instincts due to watching Survivor instead of politics.

Survivor: Nicaragua Cast Revealed


An all too familiar pattern is emerging in America of political ignorances and abuses and it is not just in Washington D.C.

Originally posted by Jamjar
Really great post.

Shame this is going to be such a short reply, You ask who will Obama use as scapegoat being an outsider looking in I have a strange opinion.....

I yhink everyone is aware that both Obama and Clinton attended the Bilderberg meeting pre election, so you had the option of a black guy or a woman in office when TSHTF.

Now I know you guys over there are just as dumb as us Brits and the majority will be led by the MSM so whos going to vote for a black guy again? We had it with Thatcher - Probably me just spouting BS but you never know lol

Any reply is a good reply no matter the length or type.

Riots Force Chinese President to Leave G-8


Notice how those outside of the G-8 and G-20 Summit's are to blame for the riots not those in attendence?

G20 Protests Heat Up: Video of police car fire in Toronto


Reminiscent of course of Seattle Washington and the World Trade Organization.

1999 Battle of Seattle


We're the ones being affected yet we have no voice in what is literally draining our pocketbooks and wallets.

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders


I would say that Obama would be somewhat correct in blaming the Clinton administration,since it was that administration which rescinded Glass-Steagall,which set up a legal barrier between investment and commercial banks.

Glass-Steagall was enacted to prevent another depression,or economic crisis like the first one.

It seemed to have worked while it was in place

Shortly after Congressman Larry McDonald called out the NWO he was killed, the only American politician to be killed by the Soviet Union. He accused the elite of collaborating with the Soviets, they obviously did not like that very much.

"[T]he drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government, combining super-capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control ... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent." ~ Larry McDonald

"There is a real question in my mind that the Soviets may have actually murdered 269 passengers and crew on the Korean Air Lines Flight 007 in order to kill Larry McDonald." ~ Jerry Falwell

He belonged to the long despised John Birch Society. When he joined he was immediately censured. He soon became president of the John Birch Society then he began to consider running for president. www.fromthewilderness.com...

What is my point here? He was a conspiracy theorist as is the rest of the JBS, they were deeply hated and their members were considered crazy. This has proven that when people call out those in power they die.

So who do they blame after 9/11, who do they make their scapegoats like Hitler made his? Well Hitler had a list of people to demonize what makes you think Obama would only demonize one group, multiple groups work better. It's far easier to keep people very distracted when you have them fearing 5 groups instead of just 1.

The rapid distribution of home computers in just 2 decades has expanded the access to the internet to virtually the whole country. IBM is a computer corporation so who better to recruit to help you monitor and track people then IBM?

What the internet has provided is a source of communication for all people which allows the government to single out the ones they choose. They can isolate the IP Address and monitor your activity to determine your threat level. When SHTF they will know exactly who's internet to shut down, who to arrest, who is spreading 'lies' and what is the best way to demonize this group.

Conspiracy Theorists have found a haven on the internet to learn new theories which makes them more of a threat to the government. We are the passenger on the boat who is yelling "The boat is sinking!" while the captain says nothing so what happens then? Well the fellow passengers turn the 'crazy ones' over to the boat captain because they are a 'threat'.

So who other than conspiracy theorists will be targeted? Militias, they will be demonized by the government for being radical and reactionary and a threat to public safety. Who won't be demonized? Secret societies, Government Agencies and other backers of the state.

Those who wish to 'fight the power' will be met with arrest, confiscation, torture, abduction and any other thing under the sun. The first public figure to challenge the state using 'conspiracy theories' will be the lesson for any others who wish to question the state when he/she turns up dead or missing.

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I can see the fact that propaganda is being used upon the innocent citizens.

This is one of the reasons for the usage of the name of the New World Order as it is a puppet.

A sock-puppet of sorts, something for a distraction, to keep us chasing our tails.

Am I saying these things are not happening?

Certainly not.

But the name is nothing but a catch-phrase to lead us astray.

George Bush New World Order


It is nothing but the United Nations through the United States of America waging many perception campaigns.

Formation of the New World Order


Using every means available to point one way and we are distracted while the knife is slipped in our backs.

Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory Takes On New World Order


But it is a distraction, perception being used, to cement the powerbase of the United Nations.

New World Order : There Is No Such Thing, Architect's of Lies, They Created A Phantom Menace

By using the childhood game of Chinese Whispers, documented drama, and identity theft.

Create an Obama Birth Certificate


And your own identity is the scapegoat to get you to surrender to the R.F.I.D. chip process willingly.

Originally posted by Misoir
So who other than conspiracy theorists will be targeted? Militias, they will be demonized by the government for being radical and reactionary and a threat to public safety. Who won't be demonized? Secret societies, Government Agencies and other backers of the state.

Well if they can arrest you for blowing bubbles... then sue you for talking about it... then what hope do the conspiracy theorists have?



But all that is done about stuff like that is talk in a forum... showing outrage at such stupid actions on the part of a police force that was once the worlds finest...

But do we get the pitch forks? Do we stand behind the bubble blower? Nope America the Apathetic just talks about it. Been told that the USA is a "Sleeping Giant" What's it going to take to wake that giant this time?

With all the Predator drones and heavily armed UAV's 'they' won't need pilots that would never turn on their own people. And by the looks of things in Toronto, running north of the border won't help

Obama should have let the economy collapse and started from scratch. The pain and suffering to the people would not have been much worse, but the rich would have felt it. My friend just lost his house when the bank sold it out from under him to Mexican investors who then offered to let him rent the place for $1200.00 a month.

Now the BofA has had all foreclosures stopped for shady dealings... to late for him as he just tossed in the towel after months of negotiations ( he had an injury that put him out of work for six months and then his company sold out) I am sure he has a legal case because no one even notified him till the new owner knocked on the door... but that needs more lawyers to fight.

Nevada got 700 million from Obama to help cases like that... yet where is the money? You make call after call and get told "not my department" Eventually you give up

And gun sales are at an all time high... maybe that Giant is stirring afterall

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I remember that particular event quite well.

While I certainly understand how Law Enforcement sees things I disagree with this stance.

If the bubbles contained pepper spray or something it might have been an issue.

Is Canada against blowing bubbles or is something terrified of the corruption washing off and coming clean?

Obama Jokes About Killing Jonas Brothers With Predator Drones


And of course the jokes about sending Predator Drones after the Jonas Brothers.

While I certainly admire a moment of levity from someone in power this is disturbing to say the least.

If we threaten the President, not that I would, we would get arrested, yet if he threatens someone?

Even if jest this is disconcerting to hear the joke of killing anyone when we're in the midst of two wars.

That no one but Washington D.C. and the Pentagon wants.

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
Even if jest this is disconcerting to hear the joke of killing anyone when we're in the midst of two wars.

JOKING? You think that was a JOKE? HA!

You "Bubble Terrorists" better tow the line...

Predator drones patrolling Canada-U.S. border

Another stretch of the Canada-U.S. border is now being patrolled by an unmanned Predator B drone, another step in Homeland Security’s plan to have the planes eventually flying over the longest undefended border in the world. Read more: www.nationalpost.com...

The plane is being deployed to conduct surveillance operations along the maritime border between Ontario and New York state in Lake Ontario and the St. Lawrence Seaway and the border at the Niagara River. Under Operation Empire Shield, the entire Canada-U.S. border will be eventually be subject to such flights by Predator drone planes. Read more: www.nationalpost.com...

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So you guys keep those BUBBLES on your side of the fence, okay?


And that goes for you Mexican Herb Dealers too... we got ya covered

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Former U.S. president George W. Bush (R) is shown a Predator Drone used in patrolling the Mexican border in Yuma, Arizona, April 9, 2007.
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Sure seems to remind me of something.

Terminator Salvation Hunter Killer


I cannot quite place where I saw it.

Is it any wonder why our current wars are synching up with history through images of WWII?

And that of a futuristic war like WWIII where robots have taken over?

I hear him scapegoating practically everyone and going as far as berating the democrat voting base on the eve of this midterm election.



It seems incumbant democrats are avoiding him like the plague during the campaign trail. In other words, he has become more of a liability than an asset to them.

7 Ways to Make Voters Forget That You’re a Democrat

They explicitly declare their independence from, and frequent opposition to, President Obama, Democratic congressional leaders, or the entire District of Columbia. While their issues or characters to associate with—or disassociate from—differ, they all make the same point: I’m one of you, not a “Washington liberal,” so don’t treat me like just another Democrat.

This man has no problem singling out anyone that does not see things his way or happens to disagree. Personally, I don't think he cares about elections or even getting re-elected. He cares more about leaving a lasting imprint on the American way of life and psyche. Moerover, he is an activist at heart and he could quite possibly think of himself as a revolutionary of sorts. There are no limits to what he wants to get done. We watched him ram through Healthcare Reform regardless of reservations among the American people, he had no problem pushing through the trillion dollar stimiulus plan which has amounted to squat, and he is even advocating a massive tax increase during one of the bitterest recessions on memory. People continue to lose jobs, families fractured or disrupted, homes vacant, and more people relying on government assistance.

At present he is scapegoating Bush, the Republicans, Tea Party people, Wallstreet, and other parties he deems responsible for his lackluster performance thus far. Furthermore, as stated earlier, he has gone to extents of even singling out his base and disgruntled democrats for their lack of support or reservations about his radical and often grandiose plans. He has a vision and he will stop at nothing to see that vision become reality. If anything, the President seems like an equal opportunity scapegoater, and when it suits him anyone and everyone is fair game.

There is certainly divisiveness and derision among the people at the moment, but that is understandable considering the hoplessness of the economy. Now, will things escalate to mass violence and persecutions akin to Germany after the World War, that remains to be seen? However, if more lose jobs and that hyperinflation kicks in as some have warned, people will no longer be arguing about this, that, and everything else, but will be frothing at the bit in hysteria. Star and Flag!

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Well, as I said before, it is not some simple answer.

Half of the blame goes to Bush before Obama.

Obama is the clean-up man for this masterplan of collusion of those in power.

This is of course why the State Militia's were targeted so much by the F.B.I.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Missouri Information Analysis Center

The Missouri Information Analysis Center, or MIAC is a "fusion center," combining resources from the federal Department of Homeland Security and other agencies, in particular local agencies.

It collects intelligence from both the local agencies and the Department of Homeland Security and uses these combined sources to analyze threats and better combat terrorism and other criminal activity.

The center opened in 2005 and is located in Jefferson City, Missouri.

Not to worry because I believe the F.B.I. was mislead by Bush and Cheney as well as they are not thorough enough.

Glenn Beck and Penn Jillette on MIAC report


No wonder we're not supposed to speak of "conspiracy theories" according to Bush?

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You mean we might actually speak of the evidence we see of the lies being sold to us from Washington D.C.?

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Or are we being pushed between a "left-wing" and "right-wing" schism of disaster?

Are You "Right-Wing Fringe", or "Left-Wing Fringe" and How Will They Push You?

The problem does not just stem from Clinton, Bush, Obama, or the United Nations though.

It is an endemic situation of nurtured ignorance in the American populaces education on politics.

People believe politics is so boring until some politician is caught in a scandal.

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Because the scandals are usually just some fluff piece meant as a distraction to divide us by our lusts and perversion.

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And like Pavlov's Dog we just suck it in without understanding we are being spoonfed lies, illusions, and distractions.

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Because people believe politics is boring unless someone is screwing an intern and want someone else to do it for them.

To sum up my answer to this question is a simple, direct, and blunt answer, I offer this...



It is you and I who will get the blame for the economy. We, the people.

But the types of borrowers who where actually put into these loans were completely unqualified, as mentioned in the NBC piece.

People like Delores Parker Jackson, who took out multiple loans on four condos totaling over $1.3 million with a negative (-$6000) shown on her tax returns.

Mrs. Jackson, who claims to have run a profitable daycare, and says that she is not to blame, but is actually the victim of predatory lending.

REALLY? She took out multiple mortgages on four different properties totaling over a million dollars with a payment of more than $10k a month, and she claims she had no idea that she could not afford the terms. Now she wants to pretend that she is not culpable, and that the mortgage company committed fraud?

Come on, do seem we that stupid?

But do not fear this blame because our overlords are merciful and they know how to teach us the errors of our ways. They know what needs to be done with the silly masses when they abuse their freedoms...

They will create better rules for us. They will give us guidance in the form of control.

Of course maybe there was a bit of culpability to lay at the feet of the banks who might have accidentally engaged in a smidge of predatory lending. But how can this be avoided? I mean our credit system and financial tracking mechanisms are so 1990...

Wait, as Steve Jobs might say.... "There's a chip for that."

You can't trick the chip! It's a great solution! Get the Chip Ms. Jackson and no bank will ever be able to give you frivolous or fraudulent loans again. The chip will make sure you are protected.

I'm sorry Ms Jackson... I am for real..


Oh, and there's also that little inconvenient truth. No, not THAT one... Not Al Gores inconvenient truth... Though that one does factor in, at some near point in the future (Don't sweat it, this is already covered... the chip will keep track of how much carbon you expel and will even be able to pay your tax every time you walk into a Wal Mart, or step onto a bus... Sensors make your life easy... They make inconvenient truths very convenient to cope with.)

The inconvenient truth I speak of is the painful and the obvious one that we all try to ignore. We, of the west live beyond our means. We live way beyond our means. And something must be done about this as well. It's immoral and untenable for this to happen.

We cannot have a first world and a third world existing on the same planet. Absurd! So, what is the answer to this conundrum? Well of course the answer is simple... We must have a global "second world" - smooth, even, fair, and utterly equal. What's right is right, after all, and we have the mechanisms in place already to achieve this.

Again, friends, do not fear these changes. After all, you are to blame for the mess the world is in. Washington and the pundits, politicians, and the rich all are in agreement about this. It is your greed that has gotten us into this mess. You'll just have to give up a little privacy, lower your standards, trust authority and let the powerful fix the mess. Mommy's here children, to make it all better, and she has the full resources of several Conglomerates and global Corporations at her disposal. Mommy knows what's best...

Sshh baby, it's all going to be OK...

~Heff

Speaking of History Repeating Itself....

Here's an article I found particularly disturbing a while back.

Read the link if you want to know the full story!


"...Evidently it was not problematic for Obama, who stood in front of it and saluted the German audience in a way eerily similar to what Adolf Hitler used to do, followed by thousands returning the salute, which is against German law. When Obama ended his speech in front of the war goddess, he said, “With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the world once again.” This is exactly what Hitler had promised to do and exactly where he had planned to memorialize it.

Of greater significance and not far from where Obama delivered his rousing speech, is the Great Altar of Zeus in the Pergamon Museum. According to several reports, Obama visited the Great Altar while in Berlin, which is especially important given what he did on returning to the United States...."
www.raidersnewsnetwork.com...

By the way,Excellent thread,Spartan! You always do such a complete layout! I like your style!

Sorry I don't have more to add! Just thought this was a nice little tie-in.