Lights Over El Paso, TX October 15, 2010 (SOLVED/Identified - SkyDivers)

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Mr. D

 

My work is pretty much done.
It was the Golden Knights.

skeptics
You havent posted any proof, only a claim from the government

I bet you also believe the 1947 UFO crash was weather balloon.

Phage believes balloons were seen in New York city on Oct 13, yet there were several other eye wittiness accounts about other UFOs during that day time and afternoon period.

And now on this.

You skeptics offer no proof, no evidence, only attack other peoples opinion and try to force them to agree with the skeptics, i can see you skeptics are on a disinformation quest.

I would love to ask the 13B Cannon crewmembers if they were in the field that day firing Illumination rounds.

I looks a 100% atypical of illum rounds, i've observed them before here at Ft Sill and they are usually fired at lower altitudes and look nothing like the video.

I also hear no roar of Jet engines, Jet engines are audiable even when they are very high up.

The meteor theory doesn't hold water either since they were hovering.

I'm guessing these are unknowns.

S&F!

reply to post by Thunder heart woman

Is it possible for someone to film the performance, including a complete descent so that we could make a more accurate comparison? Thanks

No, because the actual show is in daylight so we will not be able to compare..

Ah, okay. That's too bad. My curiosity will never be satisfied then.
Second line.

Great find! The US military has to think of more creative explanations than saying that those are airplanes doing some airshows at night!

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
to claim this you have to prove it.

The video proves itself.

In the OP's video from 0:12 to 0:13 you can see the focus of the camera changing. The object is unfocused, then is more focused, then back to unfocused. You can even see the "blooming" effect caused by the lenses. You can ask any professional photographer if you wish and ask their opinion.

Now you have to prove they are in focus now that I just gave you evidence of it being out of focus.

As for it being black and white... the streaks are GREY. Please show me an example of grey streaks in reality.

You prove that it is not black and white. Show me one bit of color in that video. (besides the added news logos)

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
and skeptics also believe the government that the UFO crash in 1947 was a weather balloon right?

skeptics haven't changed there methods, only now you and other skeptics will attack users for believing if this was UFO or otherwise.

If you don't believe the weather balloon explanation then it is YOU that is skeptical. YOU are the skeptic.

reply to post by Thunder heart woman


An BTW, the poster that said they were not schedueled for this show was wrong..
They have more than one team. I think the Gold team was what they were talking about.
The Black team were due in Elpaso..

reply to post by 0ne10


Oh do you want me to alert a mod about your behavior?
will you ease up with the attacks

Wavemarker
Great find! The US military has to think of more creative explanations than saying that those are airplanes doing some airshows at night!

Yes only skeptics believe there explanation, since they have an agenda.

reply to post by 0ne10

If you don't believe the weather balloon explanation then it is YOU that is skeptical. YOU are the skeptic.

Ahhh, the top secret weather ballon shipped off under cover of darkness to a far away airbase by armed soldiers to protect vital secrets..
Is that the one you are talking about?

reply to post by scitpeks


I don't believe it was a weather balloon either....

So what is your point?

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


How about the OP's source even saying it most likely was attributed to the airshow being held there this weekend?

www.ktsm.com...

Or the article written by Alex Hinojosa of the El Paso times who went up in the plane with the Golden Knights on Friday night (the 15th) to do a story?

www.elpasotimes.com...

Are these government sources?

No.

So how about cutting the crap eh?

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by 0ne10

 

Oh do you want me to alert a mod about your behavior?
will you ease up with the attacks

WHAT?! I didn't attack you!

What is your problem?

reply to post by 0ne10

You prove that it is not black and white. Show me one bit of color in that video. (besides the added news logos)

You stated it was filmed in B/W so I think the burden of proof is with you. especially as if it WAS filmed in color it sort of messes with your theory..

reply to post by scitpeks


My proof is that there is only grey tones in that entire video.

Prove to me there is color...

reply to post by 0ne10

My proof is that there is only grey tones in that entire video.

Prove to me there is color...

lol, fine, it was filmed in color. Prove me wrong...

Originally posted by 0ne10

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
How can there be a streak of light, which suddenly turns into 3 lights, with no streaks, and which hovers in mid-air for a while without looking like they're falling, and why did the lights suddenly vanish?

Three parachutists holding hands jump out of an aircraft with fireworks attached to their feet. These parachutists are so close together that from far away the fire works look like one big fire work. As they are falling 120 mph making one big streak behind them, the parachutists separate in 3 different directions so they can pull their parachute cord and not crash into each other, which creates 3 different streaks.

Once they pull the parachute cord, BAM!, they instantly go from 120 mph to 12 mph experiencing from 3 to 4 G's of force. Once they are going 12 mph (very slow and looks like they are hovering) the streaks from the fire works are no more. They are just a small fountain of fire, and from far away look like a single point of light.

Because the sky is black, and because the camera is following them, you can't tell they are moving at all. Once the fire works burn out, they are hidden in the darkness, and appear to "suddenly vanish".

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
Wouldn't the light go with them all the way to the ground?

Depends how long the fireworks were made to last, and how long it took them to reach the ground.

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
What would have caused the lights to streak like that, creating a tail, surely a skydiver can't move that fast....?

Skydivers fall at 120 mph, that is fast. That would create a nice streak. Those are display fireworks too... the sparks are made to last for a second or so.

edit on 16-10-2010 by 0ne10 because: (no reason given)

Wow! How much are you paid to debunk anything that is unexplainable seen from the sky? Did you really believe what you just wrote? Do you think someone here believed what you wrote?

reply to post by scitpeks


Ok I will prove you wrong...

Here is the same event from a different camera...



Do you see color? The same colors as the Golden Knights?

Why is the OP's video not in color? Why is it black and white?

There is your proof....

This video is also out of focus... doesn't anyone know what manual focus is these days?

reply to post by Chadwickus

So how about cutting the crap eh?

I don't think anyone here deserves to be spoken to like that.
If you don't like someones post then its your choice to ignore it or respond in a civilised manner.
Gutter talk is just that...

reply to post by wavemaker


Explain what part of what I wrote doesn't make sense or isn't factual.

Parachutists fall at 120 mph, and normally are reduced to 12 mph when their parachute opens. If they are holding fireworks like the Golden Knights, this would create exactly what the witnesses claim.

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter

 

How about the OP's source even saying it most likely was attributed to the airshow being held there this weekend?

www.ktsm.com...

Or the article written by Alex Hinojosa of the El Paso times who went up in the plane with the Golden Knights on Friday night (the 15th) to do a story?

www.elpasotimes.com...

Are these government sources?

No.

So how about cutting the crap eh?

Media and government same thing

on the video we didn't hear a C-131 plane which we should, if it was a air show, why no crowd cheering i have been on air base as a young kid, i to have seen sky drivers at night, but the video doesn't resemble the Golden Knights.