UFO's in NYC with my picture

reply to post by buni11687


yes, some of them probably did stay bunched together. and it is a possibility that mr diamonds picture is real but im extremely extremely suspicious of it because of his work and for other reasons i dont want to discuss at the moment until i know more.

thanks

rich

Originally posted by RICH-ENGLAND
reply to post by buni11687

 

here is a link about the balloon release :www.theepochtimes.com...

here is a link to jason diamonds picture on a news site www.nypost.com...

here is a link to jason diamonds twitter, take note of his tweets, he is involved in digital production. twitter.com...

i think this is also a link to a jason diamond site but not absolutely certain its the same one
videoediting.digitalmedianet.com...

i cannot prove his picture is fake as i dont have access to the original with exif data but i think its obvious this guy is not some random picture taker!.

thanks

rich

edit on 14-10-2010 by RICH-ENGLAND because: (no reason given)

Do you have anything to add beyond your wild speculations that you consistently state as fact, over and over in multiple condescending posts?

One quick way to see if the photo is fake is to ask some of the witnesses if that is what they saw. If so, don't you think it would be a pretty strange undertaking for a digital photographer/editor to then edit a photo of the same piece of sky to have an image of something that people actually saw?

I think it is a good thing that a professional was able to get a shot with all of the bad footage from yesterday.

Until you have proof that the image was faked, I think you should hold your OPINION.

If the photos were faked then it would be apparent in the EXIF data. It makes one wonder what motivates certain people to stay on ATS for hours on end, in every thread on a certain subject, simply to deny deny deny, call people stupid and claim something a hoax without a shred of their own evidence.

Originally posted by Shadowflux
If the photos were faked then it would be apparent in the EXIF data. It makes one wonder what motivates certain people to stay on ATS for hours on end, in every thread on a certain subject, simply to deny deny deny, call people stupid and claim something a hoax without a shred of their own evidence.

yeah and who pays them to

reply to post by TasteTheTruth


There's no way to determine the size of these objects as there are no point of reference that allows for an estimation about distance from the camera. It might not even be physical objects, reflections in the mirror might be a possible explanation.

To be quite frank, I don't believe it's very easy to make a conclusion about what this is by the picture alone. Assumptions are definitely possible to provide, but we might need similar pictures for a comparative analysis to discern what this is exactly.

UPDATE:


Last night after I posted this thread, my friend who was with me at the bar sent me an email with the exact same news link. see screen shot here



at this point i almost hope it's the balloons. i'd like to think that at some point in my life i will see something that confirms the existence of ufo's, if infact there are ufo's. and i really don't want that one time to be a rare day-drunk experience that results in confusion, etc.

my friend seems to think that he saw it too. the good and bad news is this. my video sucks (half of it is of a pool table and its about 10 seconds long), but my friend says he took a really good video from his iphone, which i guess is a much better cameraphone than mine. if i can catch up with him before he gets out of town or have him email it to me, i will definately post it so we can confirm or deny better. he says its good but he admits he hasn't put it on his computer yet and is watching it on a small scale (he doesn't live here, he leaves tonight to go back home).

Link to youtube video. I apologize if this has been posted

The original photo in this thread looks like a light fixture reflecting on the glass of the window. However, if the poster actually saw these outside of the window, then they were likely the balloons that were released yesterday for the event with the mayor, etc.

Originally posted by Gazrok
The original photo in this thread looks like a light fixture reflecting on the glass of the window. However, if the poster actually saw these outside of the window, then they were likely the balloons that were released yesterday for the event with the mayor, etc.

Yes Gazrok I agree 100%. The OP's pic look a lot of light fixture reflecting on the window. I see pics like that all the time in my work...
Plus in all the video's I have seen, the objects dont look nothing like the ones in the OP's pic.

reply to post by Esoteric Teacher


Barbara Kruger is a client of mine. She did the tops of buses a while back as well. She's an incredible artist.

Originally posted by RICH-ENGLAND
reply to post by Esoteric Teacher

 

they were once they were released.....

thanks

rich

Any proof of this?

Originally posted by RICH-ENGLAND
reply to post by Centurionx

 

that picture is fake, its made by a digital artist called jason diamond !.

thanks

rich

You keep saying this. If you want people to believe you, then provide some proof .

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Originally posted by RICH-ENGLAND

i cannot prove his picture is fake as i dont have access to the original with exif data but i think its obvious this guy is not some random picture taker!.

I don't know about you, but most digital artists i know tend to carry cameras around with them and use them constantly. But then again, as much as you keep harping on about it being faked, you've just admitted you don't know if it's a fake. Also - does being a digital artist automatically make him a faker?

If i happened to record audio of a ghost for example, just because i'm a music tech student, would you accuse me of faking it?

For all i know you may be a disinfo agent, constantly parroting the same thing over and over and over again, but hey let's give you the benefit of the doubt.

Nice pic. Could be a light fitting I have no idea.

Writing at bottom of pic sums it all up. I am guessing because of those words it may just be a little bit of fun by poster.

On another note I am getting very tired of a pic of yellow ballons being shoved in my face. This picture is being repeatly posted all over the site and several times in the same thread by the same person.

I thought that would be considered spamming. Silly me.

Can't somebody put up a pic of some red ballons , just for a change?

The op picture looks like some kind of atmospheric anomoly, its definitly not baloons as baloons are nicely outlined and would have to be very big to be seen from so far away.

I don't understand people in here, have you ever released a baloon and watched it go up? If you did then you would know that:

a regular baloon in a few minutes is super small in the sky

a regular baloon does not eminate light

a regular baloon is probebly released almost every day and yet we don't stare at it, do you think baloons are only released when there are ufo sightings? ofcourse not! baloons are released almost every day and as I said we don't pay much attention to them because they don't shine and they don't have formations and stay in the sky for so long.

These "debunkers" are pretty stupid to be honest, they are trhowing theories at us and claiming them to be true all the while saying we are crazy to think otherwise, without providing an once of evidence.

I see strange lights that have stayed in the air long enough for a croud to gather and look at, this does not happen every day and is probebly kind of rare. I also know that someone predicted this to happen. What I don't know is if all the pictures I have seen are fabricated by hoaxers, I do however suspect them not to be fabrications as my healthy mind tells me that would be a little too drastic, I have a basic trust in people definitly if its being reported by hunderds of individuals, many skeptics might rather call them delusiory nuts, but I know better.

All we can do now is wonder really, no one can say anything for sure and that is exactly why agressive posters are rediculous because how can you be so agressive only because people do not believe your theory.

Originally posted by colloredbrothers
a regular baloon in a few minutes is super small in the sky

a regular baloon does not eminate light

based on the various eyewitness accounts, the balloons were small and were rather high up in the sky. they weren't readily visible to everyone, everywhere. I am on 34th and 7th, 20 floors up and we couldn't see a thing.


regular balloons don't eminate any light but silver mylar balloons will reflect it which, in my opinion, is what this looked like on video.

these things were in an odd "formation" and, apparently, weren't moving around like you'd expect with a balloon. My office is near Madison Square Garden and, whenever there's a kid event at the Garden, there are balloons being released randomly. These balloons are the standard kind so they will, most likely, behave differently, but they never sit still. They move up, and on an angle with the wind. They'll move around a bit, left and right, up and down, with the wind channels created by all the buildings but, still, they move.

As I said, they sure looked like silver mylar balloons to me but that's based solely on the few seconds of video and the still images I've seen.

Originally posted by snusfanatic
my friend seems to think that he saw it too. the good and bad news is this. my video sucks (half of it is of a pool table and its about 10 seconds long), but my friend says he took a really good video from his iphone, which i guess is a much better cameraphone than mine. if i can catch up with him before he gets out of town or have him email it to me, i will definately post it so we can confirm or deny better. he says its good but he admits he hasn't put it on his computer yet and is watching it on a small scale (he doesn't live here, he leaves tonight to go back home).

Thanks for posting the picture, snusfanatic

I have a couple questions. First, what you wrote in the post I've quoted seems to suggest this is a frame from a video, rather than a still picture -- is that right? Were you taking video and then saw this when you reviewed it, or were you specifically filming something you saw?

It looks to me like a reflection of a light fixture on the window, but without going down there myself to see (hmm, maybe not a bad idea, I've never been and it sounds nice ) I'm just interested in the story behind the picture.

The other thing is that it seems to be facing south, and the reports I've seen of "UFOs" yesterday were mostly in Chelsea (north of Meatpacking District). If there was in fact a huge conglomeration of lights over lower Manhattan like what we seem to see in your photo (unless it is in fact a reflection) I would have expected a lot more reports (and photos) of that rather than of the small individual balloon-like dots over Chelsea.

reply to post by Crakeur


Well Barbara Kruger doesn't paint crap, that is for sure. I liked that saying so much I added it to my signature below.

Belief + Doubt = Sanity.

That is just poetically philisophical.

Tell Barbara her work is appreciated,
John Paul

reply to post by RICH-ENGLAND


No real data embedded in the photo you mention in your post. All Exif information has been stripped out.

The data in the OP photo looks good to me. A Blackberry took that pic.

reply to post by rajaten


Wtf are you talking about? You've posted this multiple times and it makes no sense. Can you give a specific time? A screenshot? More info? I'm not watching this dumb 15min video, lol.