Is Porn Dangerous?

It sure is fun to see the exchange of post's here, much to be learned for sure.

I feel in my mind, I am ready to free myself of my beastly ancestors ways, perhaps I'm insane, but to ponder my own sanity seems to be one of the sanest things of all to me.
I like to envision a place where all sex is a deep bonding experience. Love, energy, Deep connections, the stirring of emotions, this is how I feel sex should be, it's hard for me to imagine sex having this attributes in an aggressive environment.

This is the viewpoint I come from, which is kind of an attempt to make a little sense out of my previous statement.

I don't see how the world of individuals can't seem to know.. how fast and easy this world could change.. if we all said no at once.. or yes for that matter.
Cheers

reply to post by Salamandy


The reason is sometimes more control than anything else
Sexual health/rape
Why people commit rape
Why do you think guys rape other guys and force themselves on people in prision? Whilst they would be looking for it more no denying that but in prison they are always looking for control and to be dominant over other people, to be on top of the pecking order.
But with your other point, i agree with you in some cases. Maybe it could lower the urge. but im not so sure.
But ultimately, i think its them as a person that makes it dangerous or not

Originally posted by klawsraught
It sure is fun to see the exchange of post's here, much to be learned for sure.

I feel in my mind, I am ready to free myself of my beastly ancestors ways, perhaps I'm insane, but to ponder my own sanity seems to be one of the sanest things of all to me.
I like to envision a place where all sex is a deep bonding experience. Love, energy, Deep connections, the stirring of emotions, this is how I feel sex should be, it's hard for me to imagine sex having this attributes in an aggressive environment.

This is the viewpoint I come from, which is kind of an attempt to make a little sense out of my previous statement.

I don't see how the world of individuals can't seem to know.. how fast and easy this world could change.. if we all said no at once.. or yes for that matter.
Cheers

Most all sex is exactly as you describe. Maybe you should understand to appreciate that the feelings and emotional exchanges you wish for can be displayed in many other ways than just your own, including in an aggressive environment. As humans, we have evolved and along with that comes less hang ups, embarrassment, and more openness towards sexual acts.

Im confused about the last paragraph... know what? What are we changing so fast if we said no (or yes) at the same time?

reply to post by LimbicSystem

Porn is wrong plain and simple. I'm not going to say that it is dangerous, and I don't believe that it leads to rape. It desensitizes you and leads to constantly needing to see more more than the average couple doing it. I speak from from my own experience with porn, it only leads to more crazy and downright disgusting side of the industry. I also find it to b a shame that a young 18 year old can do these acts but there not old enough to even drink. That's the sad part of the industry, that young women are constantly lured into doing such acts as a way of making quick money. The reason why it is so unhealthy is because you end up having to watch more extreme porn every time to get a "fix", playboy just doesn't work anymore.

I find it hard to believe someone would rape for control in very many cases. The control just goes hand in hand with the act of physically violating someone against their will. As for the second point, I would be in favor for arguing that porn benefits our society.

It's about control of another human being, about dominance, about lack of control of yourself,
There are a lot of things to define what is going on in the head of that sort of person, and I'm not willing to even try to name them all to you...but yes, control is among them.

I'm sure you aren't an unintelligent person, so forgive my direct attitude.

You're saying the same thing that several others have said in the same argumentative tone, so it's automatically looked at as the same thing, word for word.
That means your post is likely only going to be as special to the person you posted it to as it is to me.

reply to post by klawsraught


Agreed.

Cheers, Claw.

Originally posted by littlecloud
reply to post by Salamandy

 

The reason is sometimes more control than anything else
Sexual health/rape
Why people commit rape
Why do you think guys rape other guys and force themselves on people in prision? Whilst they would be looking for it more no denying that but in prison they are always looking for control and to be dominant over other people, to be on top of the pecking order.
But with your other point, i agree with you in some cases. Maybe it could lower the urge. but im not so sure.
But ultimately, i think its them as a person that makes it dangerous or not

Men rape other men in prison because there are 1) no other women around to fool around with 2) very likely to get away with it without the outside world labeling them gay 3) are gay in the first place and don't have a man around to try fooling around with. The end goal being to reach orgasm.

I would rather a sicko stay home if he likes animal stuff than visit the zoo with me and my family

Originally posted by 911theinsidejob
reply to post by LimbicSystem

 

Porn is wrong plain and simple. I'm not going to say that it is dangerous, and I don't believe that it leads to rape. It desensitizes you and leads to constantly needing to see more more than the average couple doing it. I speak from from my own experience with porn, it only leads to more crazy and downright disgusting side of the industry. I also find it to b a shame that a young 18 year old can do these acts but there not old enough to even drink. That's the sad part of the industry, that young women are constantly lured into doing such acts as a way of making quick money. The reason why it is so unhealthy is because you end up having to watch more extreme porn every time to get a "fix", playboy just doesn't work anymore.

Yes, it changes a few mens' view of sex, you might say.

As for the American drinking age...well, there's not a very big gap between 18 and 21.
That should be up to the parent till the kid's old enough to think clearly for him/herself.

I think the laws are pretty screwed up when it comes to things like that.

Originally posted by 911theinsidejob
reply to post by LimbicSystem

 

The reason why it is so unhealthy is because you end up having to watch more extreme porn every time to get a "fix", playboy just doesn't work anymore.

The "fix" in this case being an orgasm. Did you know masturbation is healthy for the human body much like colon cleansing is recommended?
Ever get really intrerested in a book or tv show to the point where you needed more - maybe a lead character being killed or a unmentionable love triangle? Maybe you put off an important date or avoided taking an important call to watch the last five minutes of this program so that you could get your fix?

porn isnt dangerous people are. its like saying video games, or comicbooks make you dangerous. nothings good for you if you over do it.

Originally posted by dementedtheclown
porn isnt dangerous people are. its like saying video games, or comicbooks make you dangerous. nothings good for you if you over do it.

I see what you're saying, Charles.
Only when something becomes a real addiction can it be harmful.

My thoughts on videos games and comics are that they simply make you lazy...
I'm pretty lazy.


Thanks!

Originally posted by LimbicSystem

I find it hard to believe someone would rape for control in very many cases. The control just goes hand in hand with the act of physically violating someone against their will. As for the second point, I would be in favor for arguing that porn benefits our society.

It's about control of another human being, about dominance, about lack of control of yourself,
There are a lot of things to define what is going on in the head of that sort of person, and I'm not willing to even try to name them all to you...but yes, control is among them.

I'm sure you aren't an unintelligent person, so forgive my direct attitude.

You're saying the same thing that several others have said in the same argumentative tone, so it's automatically looked at as the same thing, word for word.
That means your post is likely only going to be as special to the person you posted it to as it is to me.

No attitude sensed. I really enjoy yours and a few others perspectives because Im trying to realize the benefit in concluding that control is what rape is about. Understanding the power of the human body, particularly the male body in this case, we understand that males have a very serious urge to achieve orgasm with another human being - and often. What separates rapists from the average man on the streets is to be able to put society and primal urges in perspective. In other words most men realize that forcing your seed on someone is not enjoyable or necessary, or civil. Its the people who let this urge to spread their seed overcome common societal rules of physical intrusion. That is why we say their minds are sick.
That leads me to an interesting observation.. maybe in the case of woman rapists, it is more in fact about control than primal urges? Maybe control over a mate is a primal urge for woman?

reply to post by Salamandy

The "fix" in this case being an orgasm. Did you know masturbation is healthy for the human body much like colon cleansing is recommended? Ever get really intrerested in a book or tv show to the point where you needed more - maybe a lead character being killed or a unmentionable love triangle? Maybe you put off an important date or avoided taking an important call to watch the last five minutes of this program so that you could get your fix?

Whilst yes i agree, masturbation can be good for men as it prevents some sort of cancer (dont remember which one) but as in getting your fix in tv shows and stuff i think thats a bit wrong.. even though i like watching tv must be done in moderation.
Like we are such a self serving race that we look at the quickest and easiest way for our fix. Such as microwave food and the like, and we look for a quick social/drama fix in tv. i dont think we should be looking at man made things for a fix..
such with sex, just a quick fix takes out all the sensuality and connectedness that is ment to come with it. Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me..
But anywho, just my opinion
this is getting quite interesting. haha

If Ted Bundy says porn's dangerous, that's good enough for me.

reply to post by Salamandy


You said the following:
Most all sex is exactly as you describe. Maybe you should understand to appreciate that the feelings and emotional exchanges you wish for can be displayed in many other ways than just your own, including in an aggressive environment. As humans, we have evolved and along with that comes less hang ups, embarrassment, and more openness towards sexual acts.

Im confused about the last paragraph... know what? What are we changing so fast if we said no (or yes) at the same time?

(not sure how to quote)

To me, I would interpret being aggressive as being somewhat violent in nature, perhaps my problem is interpretation, but if not, than I feel as if they have imprints in them leaning towards a negative nature. To enact these imprints out during sex.. seems to be very disastrous, unless of course, you feel the need to explore this part of yourself, so long of course, as your partner feels the same way.
Sexuality to me, isn't something one should share, it's sacred, and so should be kept with the person whom you share your experiences and love with. That being said, I see no problem should we all decide to walk around naked, so long as everyone saw things from the perspective of love being this way. I could see some issues arising if that prerequisite is not met.
I aim for pure positivity, as I see it, I would never look down upon someone who wanted to explore their darker nature, although I do dislike when they feel the need to enact such things on other-self's.
Anyways, my last statement was pretty much aimed to say:
The world would change instantaneously if everyone said no at the same time. like in regards to rape, or war, or so on.. it could be negative too, maybe no more hugging, the point is, we are in so much control of what is happening here on earth.. there's just so much feeling of disconnection that it becomes easy to say, 1 person isn't going to change anything, and than use that as a justification to perpetuate things we know in our hearts to be wrong.

Originally posted by littlecloud
reply to post by Salamandy

 

The "fix" in this case being an orgasm. Did you know masturbation is healthy for the human body much like colon cleansing is recommended? Ever get really intrerested in a book or tv show to the point where you needed more - maybe a lead character being killed or a unmentionable love triangle? Maybe you put off an important date or avoided taking an important call to watch the last five minutes of this program so that you could get your fix?

such with sex, just a quick fix takes out all the sensuality and connectedness that is ment to come with it. Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me..
But anywho, just my opinion

this is getting quite interesting. haha

edit on 5-10-2010 by littlecloud because: (no reason given)

I agree that type of sex can be fun, but so can the quick "fix" type of sex (with or without) partner. Like you said though, its your opinion of what sex should be. No offense but it sounds like a very woman friendly version of a sexual encounter. If you have a man counterpart, what happens when he wants the wham bam thank you ma'am stuff? Shame on you if you say hes wrong for liking it like that!

I think the reason why some people have a hard time understanding why people would rape for anything other than for sexual pleasure, is because in their honest attempt at understanding what is to be gained, the other reasons, control among them, aren't on their agenda. You folks may just be to far removed from such a thing, which to me.. isn't such a bad thing at all.

reply to post by Salamandy


Haha yeah i guess its quite a womanised point.
I get what you mean though, thats fine too. Nothing wrong with a little fun
But in saying that, i think its bad when people look for only the quick fix,
I dont know, enlighten me if im wrong

Originally posted by klawsraught
I think the reason why some people have a hard time understanding why people would rape for anything other than for sexual pleasure, is because in their honest attempt at understanding what is to be gained, the other reasons, control among them, aren't on their agenda. You folks may just be to far removed from such a thing, which to me.. isn't such a bad thing at all.

If I were to write a dark novel about a sicko who wanted control over someone, I would have this character tie them up, force them to clean house, maybe try and convince them that they were wrong about things like the sky being blue, you know mind ga,es and such. Now I might include a chapter about this character having sex with the victim, but only to fill pages and make him more creepy, but not as a main thought to portray him as a control freak.

I feel like there are no such thing as wrong inclinations, if you feel like you have to rape someone, even though I disagree with it, that shouldn't let it stop you, you we're probably put here to do just that, for whatever reason, The one being raped to learn a powerful lesson of forgiveness, the person raping to learn compassion for another, or to further their progression on a dark path. Many more possibilities I'm sure...
That being said, please don't go and use this information to justify what you know in your heart to be wrong!