A Final Warning To All

Originally posted by kinkykoala
reply to post by rebeldog

 

I love Love

Simple isn't it?

As simlple as eating eat, or meeting meet, farting fart, or sharty shart

Originally posted by kinkykoala
And I have no problem with you having a problem, I state it as fact because it is that real to me, I'm sorry to offend if it hasn't reached that stage to another....I want nothing but love for you Sir.

I love you

No, I don't have a problem, your free to believe what ever you want

But that doesn't make it real, I could believe that I'm immortal but if I jump off the Empire State building I'll die...

And ermm I love you too

Originally posted by Death_Kron
reply to post by brianmg5

 

I've tried plenty of times mate but still haven't won the lottery...

Well that may be a bit unrealistic. You don't really believe you're going to win the lottery, it's just too big for you to REALLY believe. That would be like believing you could move a mountain. If you believed it, it would probably happen, but there is no way in hell you are going to believe it.

Try something that you can actually believe. Like, believe you'll find something that's been lost for a long time, or that you'll see a bug that's rare (I did this with a preying mantis).

Originally posted by brianmg5
Well that may be a bit unrealistic. You don't really believe you're going to win the lottery, it's just too big for you to REALLY believe. That would be like believing you could move a mountain. If you believed it, it would probably happen, but there is no way in hell you are going to believe it.

Try something that you can actually believe. Like, believe you'll find something that's been lost for a long time, or that you'll see a bug that's rare (I did this with a preying mantis).

I was only joking, I'm well aware of the powers of postive thought and how, to an extent, we create our own reality but we have to be realistic here. Quantum Mechanics has some interesting questions & answers with regards to that subject matter...

I'm also aware of how damaging negative thought can be and the effects that emotional stress can have on the human body.

We should be discussing this in a thread, not some religious mumbo-jumbo.

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by brianmg5
Well that may be a bit unrealistic. You don't really believe you're going to win the lottery, it's just too big for you to REALLY believe. That would be like believing you could move a mountain. If you believed it, it would probably happen, but there is no way in hell you are going to believe it.

Try something that you can actually believe. Like, believe you'll find something that's been lost for a long time, or that you'll see a bug that's rare (I did this with a preying mantis).

I was only joking, I'm well aware of the powers of postive thought and how, to an extent, we create our own reality. Quantum Mechanics has some interesting questions & answers with regards to that subject matter...

I'm also aware of how damaging negative thought can be and the effects that emotional stress can have on the human body.

We should be discussing this in a thread, not some religious mumbo-jumbo.

I guess I interpreted his message a little differently than you did. I understand he may be influenced by this religion or that religion but It doesn't really matter. The subject matter he presents doesn't contain any of the garbage of any religion. Just the message to love each other.

If everyone loved each other, the world could no longer support anything but that. Because the collective intention of Love would be strong and anything based on fear would have to fall to the side because the collective energy wouldn't support fear.

Think about it, if any true Christian read the OP, they would call it blasphemy of the worst kind.

Originally posted by brianmg5
I guess I interpreted his message a little differently than you did. I understand he may be influenced by this religion or that religion but It doesn't really matter. The subject matter he presents doesn't contain any of the garbage of any religion. Just the message to love each other.

If everyone loved each other, the world could no longer support anything but that. Because the collective intention of Love would be strong and anything based on fear would have to fall to the side because the collective energy wouldn't support fear.

Think about it, if any true Christian read the OP, they would call it blasphemy of the worst kind.

But any sane, realist will know that it would be impossible for everyone to love each other in the world.

That's my argument with these sort of threads, people can bang on about "loving our brothers" etc but there will always be evil people in the world and I challenge anyone to tell me how they love someone who has killed their child, raped their sister, battered their mother etc

Yeah IAM, it is one source hey, please explain this from your profile page:

Comment from: IAMIAM on: 17/9/2010 @ 02:22 PM
No my friend, I am a humble follower of Christ. I do not belong to any church.

Ok IAMIAM, enough from me, I am now confused and a little tired. you don't get angry, and are a smooth writer, and you Equivocate a lot. I don't know what to think of you. Goodnight IAM, love to you brother.

Originally posted by Inkrinhuminge
No my friend, I am a humble follower of Christ. I do not belong to any church.

My friend,

I have already been quizzed on my understanding of Christ just a few pages back. Please go back and review it there. My understanding of Christ's teachings are but a minuscule part of this thread.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by brianmg5
I guess I interpreted his message a little differently than you did. I understand he may be influenced by this religion or that religion but It doesn't really matter. The subject matter he presents doesn't contain any of the garbage of any religion. Just the message to love each other.

If everyone loved each other, the world could no longer support anything but that. Because the collective intention of Love would be strong and anything based on fear would have to fall to the side because the collective energy wouldn't support fear.

Think about it, if any true Christian read the OP, they would call it blasphemy of the worst kind.

But any sane, realist will know that it would be impossible for everyone to love each other in the world.

That's my argument with these sort of threads, people can bang on about "loving our brothers" etc but there will always be evil people in the world and I challenge anyone to tell me how they love someone who has killed their child, raped their sister, battered their mother etc

I have to go to work so this will be my last post for a while. bty.....it's nice to debate this with someone like yourself who doesn't revert to name calling and bashing.

The bottom line is, you can forgive and love someone who's done terrible things. It is possible. You may choose not to but the option is sitting there waiting for you.

Now let me run this by you. How much do we REALLY know about anything? The closest one can get abour describing our reality is "I don't know." Therefore their are all types of possble reasons for us being here, one of which is to experience the "goodness" of who we are. It is impossible to experience goodness without an element of Badness. They depend on each other, which I'm sure you know.

So what if someone's goal in his life was to experience True Forgiveness and before coming to be born on Earth, they made deal with someone to make that happen? They would have to be smited in the worst way possible to experience true forgiveness.

But just the fact that we need bad in order to experience good should be enough evidence that the world as is, is exactly what it's supposed to be and therefore perfect. It's working as designed. And therefore, what we perceive as bad, is actually perfect.

reply to post by Death_Kron

I'm tired of seeing threads like this on ATS

Well did you send out the memo?

But there are many human beings on this planet that deserve to die slow, painful deaths.

So you're an advocate of cruel and unusual punishment?

And signing off every post with "With Love, Your Brother" is getting a little tacky now...

Complaints based on personal preference seem to be your MO.

Personally, I believe there is a God; a creator but I don't think he/she/it should be described as Gospel (pun intended) as wrote in the Bible

Ok but what about the OP? The thread wasn't made up around what you think.

Yeah, discuss the spreading of love and the halting of wars etc but not from an unfounded religious perspective

Why not again? Oh because you're tired of it. Not trying to be rude to you partner, but you can prolly go make this same exact thread. Name it something else and you can have that one your way.

But any sane, realist will know that it would be impossible for everyone to love each other in the world.

By your preception the real world is the one we see before us I presume?

thank you for your insightfull words my friend,i agree with everything you have said and i thank you for it.
next time im in a humour over something i didnt get or some where i couldnt go i shall read this!!
you have touched more than you could ever know!!
thank you

Originally posted by Ω-PHI-Ω
reply to post by Silicis n Volvo

 

Tell me something Silicis, have you ever dabbled with or been involved with the occult in any way at all?

no...cuz im not a freak i have a life...im not sure why you asked that tho it had nothing to do with what i said...unless ur just talking about things that cant be explained...well not only am i telling you MAGIC isnt real but whatever you get upto in your crazy circle can be explained with science...

EVERYTHING CAN!

Love, Love, Love what a dream, don't get me wrong I wish, I really wish one day we can all love each other and get a long but it's an impossible task is my view. I always thought in life there is a fine balance of opposition (good & bad), and that is ours to learn from and form our own lives by the decisions we take. Everyone in the world loves, even the worse kind can love but unfortunatelyhate comes with the package I'm afraid. Earlier brother you said God is all around us (nature I think) if that is the case god can be a bitch because nature can be a bigger bitch! Anyway at least your sending out positive vibes so I'll give you that but keep it in plain English and less of a spiritual tone which does take the seriousness away of what your trying to get across!

peace......

Good perspective, but I think everyone has a different route in life. As you can tell in this post you have people who agree and disagree, don't be bothered by the negative feedback half of the people who post here don't have anything else better to do, but try to make themselves sound intelligent or important. I find it funny, because no matter what they say or do it doesn't affect the way I pursue things in life. I rather quest alone then to be around a bunch of negative individuals. One Love

-20 (King James Version)

16Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

17And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
The Great Commission

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

IAMIAM you have followed the request of Jesus. You have and will be continuing to do your job as a Christian.

This is my idea of how our God works.

There is only one God. There are many religions from the earliest of civilization.

I believe there are many roads to Heaven.

Christianity is the last religion that God gave to His people. Could all the other God based religions not be from the same God since I firmly believe there is only one God?

In speaking to people a speaker must speak in a language his audience can absorb and understand. As a public speaker this is one of the earliest lessons I learned.

I believe God spoke to the ancients, the Muslims, and all other religions preceding Christianity in a way they could understand His instruction.

When God created Jesus I believe it was his final attempt to get his message out to the universe,

While I am a Christian and I believe I can only get to Heaven through Jesus Christ I can't believe all others are going to Hell that believe in God.

Moses and all the other great teachers in the old testament did not know Jesus. I can not believe they are not in Heaven with God.

The idea of a creator is greater than anything we as humans can fathom.

Love for our fellow man, knowing right from wrong and an appreciation of nature is like a thread through all religions based on God.

I commend you for following the instructions of Jesus. You put your neck on the chopping block. That took courage.

I love you my brother and wish you well.

reply to post by KonquestAbySS


Well said!! Finally some rational thought!

Originally posted by brianmg5
I have to go to work so this will be my last post for a while. bty.....it's nice to debate this with someone like yourself who doesn't revert to name calling and bashing.

The bottom line is, you can forgive and love someone who's done terrible things. It is possible. You may choose not to but the option is sitting there waiting for you.

Now let me run this by you. How much do we REALLY know about anything? The closest one can get abour describing our reality is "I don't know." Therefore their are all types of possble reasons for us being here, one of which is to experience the "goodness" of who we are. It is impossible to experience goodness without an element of Badness. They depend on each other, which I'm sure you know.

So what if someone's goal in his life was to experience True Forgiveness and before coming to be born on Earth, they made deal with someone to make that happen? They would have to be smited in the worst way possible to experience true forgiveness.

But just the fact that we need bad in order to experience good should be enough evidence that the world as is, is exactly what it's supposed to be and therefore perfect. It's working as designed. And therefore, what we perceive as bad, is actually perfect.

I do appreciate what your saying and it's a very good way of looking at it

Personally, I fully believe in the Chinese principles of Yin/Yang i.e. the principle of opposites, hot cannot exist without cold, hard cannot exist without soft, light cannot exist without dark etc

Therefore, it's not possible to experience happiness if un-happiness didn't exist thus making the concept of everyone loving each other impossible.

That's what I said above, you have to be realistic when discussing topics such as this.

I also know for a fact that I wouldn't be able to forgive any one who hurt my loved ones, how on Earth could I forgive and even love someone who took away my partners life from me to satisfy their greed/anger or sexual pleasure?

Anyways good discussion, enjoy work We can continue when you get back

reply to post by randyvs

Well did you send out the memo?

Very humorous...

So you're an advocate of cruel and unusual punishment?

Absolutely. Whether that be rotting in a cell with no television, contact with the human race for the rest of their life until they die of old age or through a more viscious punishment, depends completely on the offence, situation, external factors...

Complaints based on personal preference seem to be your MO.

I'm free to express my personal preference am I not?

Ok but what about the OP? The thread wasn't made up around what you think.

I've already stated that I wouldn't mind this thread so much if the religious comments weren't present

Why not again? Oh because you're tired of it. Not trying to be rude to you partner, but you can prolly go make this same exact thread. Name it something else and you can have that one your way.

Because it's devoid of any real, realistic meaning...

I don't understand it! These people who have stated they hate these kind of threads, and yet they hang around and keep coming back, page after page, replying to people or just making more comments. They are really the ones that have caused this thread to get more attention!
If I didn't like a thread I would just pass on by and look for something more to my taste!
Still....that's just my opinion.

reply to post by Death_Kron

I'm free to express my personal preference am I not?

Absolutly, can you make it sound that innocent? The way you come off it's like a demand.