A Final Warning To All

reply to post by WeAreAWAKE


I understand well the grip that this "society" has over mankind.

You might find my other thread "The Plan" of interest to you. It's worth the read and hope anyway.

With Love,

Your Brother

www.abovetopsecret.com... The Plan

Originally posted by brianmg5
Wow!! I'm amazed at the power of this thread! 20 some pages, most of it consisting of angry responses just because of the suggestion that we should love each other! Think about that, that's incredible. Why would a message of love cause so many to react this way? Could it be fear? We truly are heading for a # storm.

OP,

I really hope you haven't let these naysayers get you down. If you are true to your message, you'll be able to look beyond their comments and love them anyway. I hope you've done that.

When you pass the 15 obtained flags .. you reach the front page .. and then boom for the S&F coming rapidly lol
i wanted my enlightment threads to reach the front page so people can read it has many has possible
but they didnt reach 15 flags with the good timing

i have read many post inside here and .. there is a lot of angry people
the words Final Warning are scaring people to the fact that they become angry about it
Final warning in a enlightment thread is not good
but your words of love inside the topic is

reply to post by IAMIAM

Now, if you have the money to back it up, please give it to someone who needs the money. Multiple someones preferably.

Ahah stars for that one

When you realize in the time of despair and fear, who will you turn to? Hm ATSers?

Having to realize that "I am" in me and you and everyone else, something is against us...therefore conspiracies arise. Truth isn't real truth, so we look at facts, numbers and use all the sciences we can to find it. Some truth(s) can help or fail one's path, were you a victim? Perhaps, so how to change it or overcome it? Holding on.

If you love this planet and wish to change it, there is a way:

with yourself...and what the op means by repenting is to REPENT to your "self"...not no image God, to another person or to whoever but only to you, yourself.

I learned that from watching the movie Inception, we as human beings created a world within a world and used this material world to "fix" things that aren't perfect. Such as plastic surgery, dieting, sciences and statistics. Most scientific facts/statistics made 10 years ago were proven false today. The agents of this world in media confused and defiled most. Others, which are very little of them, got lucky and became famous.

Don't blame the person who is ahead of you or who lied to you, but know that the system is OUTDATED. Thats the truth...or maybe not, thats for you to discover. And what created the system? thoughts and thoughts over time by the ruthless, scared, arrogant, ignorant, jealous, envious, materialistic because their ego had taken over them. That is what the US is turning into: a over highly competitive atmosphere where now, security is the number one priority. And that is why when the NWO is rushed in, it is what our leaders and elites are, INSECURE.

The ego, the false self which deems that religion isn't real yet it is used to control and oppress minds with guilt. But even history shows that the HERE and NOW thinking people overcame ego, such as Buddha and now as time went, the ego took form of buddha and turned him into a god.

When some of you turned into Atheists, you felt probably lied to and that there was no god and etc. Meanwhile it was the self discovery in you (or ego) that TURNED you to go into another religion, atheism. I'm sorry for criticizing atheism but it is a religion, a factual statistic, a number like those in christianity, catholism, judiaism and etc.

A solution: Say faith in yourself.

Someone once asked me, "what are you in terms of religion?"
I said, "i am a follower of Christ's principles."
So he said, "ah, so you're a christian?"
I said, "No because if you say that, then i am what you think all christians are."
He goes, "Yeah but i'm confused."
ANd i said, "that confusion my friend is your false self trying to locate an image of who i follow and in turn your mind is trying put me in with others meanwhile everyone else is me and you, we're all one..."
He said, "I am an atheist so i don't get what you are saying."
I said, 'Because again, your false self took the term atheism and created more images and terms, put you in the group atheist and now you accepted the claims. The ego cannot see faith because it's been conditioned to science and materials, so proof is all it looks for. Faith is already above, in the middle, in the below, in the sides, and the angles...like light, which you possess to experience life."



Or i may be wrong...

Starred and Flagged, this was an awesome thread. It's unfortunate that some people don't seem to understand your meaning. They say things like "Why is YOUR god real and not any of the other ones?". But it seems to me that there is only one true God, and we all just have different perspectives on Him, most of which have been distorted by mans religion. There needn't be a "my god" or "your god"; just OUR God, however we choose to interpret him. They also say things like "Jesus said to love others as yourself". They don't see that to love others IS loving yourself, and there can not be one without the other.

I believe once people open their minds, these things will be self-evident. But in the mean time we need more people like you speaking the truth. Keep up the good work, brother.

reply to post by IAMIAM

Jesus Christ was the Son of God, so am I, so are you.
Jesus Christ was the Son of Man, so am I, so are you.
Jesus Christ was Lord of his own free will, so am I, so are you.
Jesus Christ was King of his own dominion, so am I, so are you.
Jesus Christ was my Brother, he is yours as well.
Jesus Christ was not God, neither am I, neither are you.
Jesus Christ was the perfect living testimony of Gods will for man.

i fully agree with you on those quotes stars again lol

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by SirKnightE
Gods only commandment was love ye one another. With that done, everything else will fall in place. Whether people believe in a God or not, your message was clear.
Thanks

We will see how much you "love ye one another" when someone rapes one of your children...

So did someone Rape you or maybe one of your children, Is that why you have not had any experience of true Love. I can see that simply by your reply. As an FYI, yes I will still show agape Love if someone did rape my son. With that, my 12 guage will show that person love as well. Even if I were to retaliate in that manner, I am fully aware that my God will still continue to love me. To Love does not mean to be soft, or weak. My user name isnt SirKnight for any reason.
God Bless, Have a great day.....

What has 'theology' ever said that is of the smallest use to anybody? When has 'theology' ever said anything that is demonstrably true and is not obvious? - Richard Dawkins


This quote sums up my problem with the OP's message, in that it is stating the obvious in a pious, sanctimonious and condescending manner. The language and style used is affected and theatrical, it reminds me of a reverend in a church, standing in a golden pulpit, dressed in a ridiculous costume.
"All you need is love", sang The Beatles fifty years ago, a worthwhile message conveyed in a three minute pop song, and that's suffice. Dramatics are uneccessary. Of course we should respect our fellow human beings, and all life on Earth, as well as wherever else it may exist in the universe. I don't need references to a non-existent God or non-existent Son-Of-God to know this. Religion isn't about love at all, it's about the control of society and the propagation of capitalism. Religious leaders and followers always seem to believe that everyone outside of their belief systems live in a moral vacum, carrying out our existences selfishly destroying everything in our paths, like toddlers in a sandpit, but this isn't the case. I don't need you to preach the importance of "love", evolution has already taught me that destructive behaviour can only lead to my own destruction.
Of course, there are people that live selfish, hateful and destructive lives, but I doubt that they're here on the ATS forums, try taking the message to capitalist businesses and right wing governments.

Originally posted by SirKnightE
So did someone Rape you or maybe one of your children, Is that why you have not had any experience of true Love. I can see that simply by your reply. As an FYI, yes I will still show agape Love if someone did rape my son. With that, my 12 guage will show that person love as well. Even if I were to retaliate in that manner, I am fully aware that my God will still continue to love me. To Love does not mean to be soft, or weak. My user name isnt SirKnight for any reason.
God Bless, Have a great day.....

I wasn't aware that God was keen on killing others, even when they have committed a crime themselves, I thought you had to turn the other cheek and love them?

Besides, your missing the point, the OP stated that everyone should love everyone. My simple example proves that it isn't possible to do that ...

Thank you IAMIAM - message understood
Many say they seek truth yet when truth is presented it is often not to their liking.
Many say they have an open mind but this is not so.
If you say you have an open mind then you would set aside all your pre conceived ideas and contradictions.
Often one says one is listening but often just wait until the messenger has finished so they can put their pre set ideas forward - Yes you may listen but also you should consider in depth how the message could be so - with this attitude you would find your own thoughts and experience would give you your own proof of what is said.

This message is not an intellectual exercise or about likes and dislikes.
Before any sabbotage a thread they should consider that the OP may be speaking a vital truth. How would you feel if your undermining actually prevented another from their chance of a new perspective which could help them change their life.

reply to post by Death_Kron


Difficult as hell but not impossible, but If you want to use that approach, God killed plenty of people in the Bible, but like many, I believe the bible is not the only path to the one true God. Jesus said tuened the other cheek, but like this one comedian said, I'll turn my cheek completly around and come back around and slap the sh*t outta you on the other side.

reply to post by IAMIAM

Mankind has lost its way from its divine purpose.

I don't mean to be harsh, but WHEN was it, that magical fairy days of old when mankind had a divine purpose? During or after the Inquisition and the witch hunts? Under what tyrannical rule? I look at the history of mankind, and all I see is greatness being crushed by stupidity and despotism, with some eras of relative civilization intercut by long periods of barbarism. The rule of the dog eat dog. It was always only somewhere from "Bad" to "Somewhat Better"...

Originally posted by SirKnightE
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

Difficult as hell but not impossible, but If you want to use that approach, God killed plenty of people in the Bible, but like many, I believe the bible is not the only path to the one true God. Jesus said tuened the other cheek, but like this one comedian said, I'll turn my cheek completly around and come back around and slap the sh*t outta you on the other side.

Fair enough, it just winds me up to see people state things like "we should love everyone, no matter what.." etc

In the real world, that's impossible and believe me: loving will be the last thing I'm doing to someone who hurts my family or myself.

Originally posted by Death_Kron
Besides, your missing the point, the OP stated that everyone should love everyone. My simple example proves that it isn't possible to do that ...

My friend,

Your free will is the most powerful force in the universe and it is strictly under your control. You CAN do anything you want with it. The question is, do you want to?

Yes, even the rapist deserve unconditional love. They rape because of pain they suffered in their own lives. The only way to heal that pain is to get to the root of it. To do that, you need love and understanding.

Instead, we create cages and encourage animal behavior within those cages. Thus, when the animals are released, the populace is made to fear. With this fear, more control is implemented for protection.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by Echtelion
I don't mean to be harsh, but WHEN was it, that magical fairy days of old when mankind had a divine purpose? During or after the Inquisition and the witch hunts? Under what tyrannical rule? I look at the history of mankind, and all I see is greatness being crushed by stupidity and despotism, with some eras of relative civilization intercut by long periods of barbarism. The rule of the dog eat dog. It was always only somewhere from "Bad" to "Somewhat Better"...

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That magical time my friend, was when you were born.

Since then, you have taken on the burdens of life.

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by IAMIAM
My friend,

Your free will is the most powerful force in the universe and it is strictly under your control. You CAN do anything you want with it. The question is, do you want to?

Yes, even the rapist deserve unconditional love. They rape because of pain they suffered in their own lives. The only way to heal that pain is to get to the root of it. To do that, you need love and understanding.

Instead, we create cages and encourage animal behavior within those cages. Thus, when the animals are released, the populace is made to fear. With this fear, more control is implemented for protection.

With Love,

Your Brother

No I disagree, not all rapists do so because they have suffered pain in their lives, that's definitely not a correct statement.

You are correct in saying that I can do anything I want with my own free will but I wouldn't and couldn't if someone hurt a member of my family especially if they did so in such a severe fashion like raping them.

Some people are born evil and no matter how much love & understanding, they will never change.

As I've mentioned numerous times in this thread, you need to be realistic: there's people out there who will accept your "love and understanding" then when your backs turned they'll stab you in your neck and steal the last few dollars/pounds out of your pockets.

Anyone would be extremely naive to believe this isn't the case, it's sad but true....

Originally posted by Echtelion
reply to post by IAMIAM

 

Mankind has lost its way from its divine purpose.

I don't mean to be harsh, but WHEN was it, that magical fairy days of old when mankind had a divine purpose? During or after the Inquisition and the witch hunts? Under what tyrannical rule? I look at the history of mankind, and all I see is greatness being crushed by stupidity and despotism, with some eras of relative civilization intercut by long periods of barbarism. The rule of the dog eat dog. It was always only somewhere from "Bad" to "Somewhat Better"...

edit on 30/9/10 by Echtelion because: (no reason given)

You come to your conclusions from a state of indoctrination - The rule of dog eat dog is taken from Darwins half baked theories - Survival of the fittest. Darwins dubious and unproved theory was adopted be Eugenisists - A RockerfellErsInstute informed Hitler and Rothschilds funded it- this is all well documented.
You trust so called experts that fool you yet Truth is not taught in school

Originally posted by Death_Kron
No I disagree, not all rapists do so because they have suffered pain in their lives, that's definitely not a correct statement.

My friend,

I am not trying to change your view, but I will share mine. No one knows what manner of suffering drives one man to commit heinous acts himself. Those things are only known to the person who commits those acts. Furthermore, no one truly knows how much they can endure before they too would commit similar heinous acts upon another. No one knows until they are at the end of their reason. We all have a level of torment we can bear before we crack. Unfortunately, our society does not foster love and good will that would lead people to seek help when they are suffering. We have created a dog eat dog environment then hate the dog for eating the dog.

Originally posted by Death_KronSome people are born evil and no matter how much love & understanding, they will never change.

No one is born evil my friend. If you can prove this, then we can detect it at birth and eliminate the anomaly can't we. But, we can't because all are born innocent. It is their lives which make them who they are. There are certain brain defects which cause extreme behavior, but we now can detect this and treat it before it becomes a problem for a peaceful society.

Originally posted by Death_KronAs I've mentioned numerous times in this thread, you need to be realistic: there's people out there who will accept your "love and understanding" then when your backs turned they'll stab you in your neck and steal the last few dollars/pounds out of your pockets.

No one can steal from me because I have already given all to those who needed it. If I have something and someone needs it, I give it. I am not being boastful here my friend. Please do not take it that way, nor tempt me to list things I have done. That is simply impolite. As I have said in the original post, love of others is more valuable than material possessions, at least in my view.

Originally posted by Death_KronAnyone would be extremely naive to believe this isn't the case, it's sad but true....

My friend, I do not call you naive for your view. I respect it and love you for it. I do not ask you to subscribe to mine. I am simply sharing it.. Can we get past having to denigrate each other for simple diffences of opinion?

With Love,

Your Brother

Originally posted by artistpoet
You come to your conclusions from a state of indoctrination - The rule of dog eat dog is taken from Darwins half baked theories - Survival of the fittest. Darwins dubious and unproved theory was adopted be Eugenisists - A RockerfellErsInstute informed Hitler and Rothschilds funded it- this is all well documented.
You trust so called experts that fool you yet Truth is not taught in school

My friend,

Do you really need to assume where I learned my views from?

I have not been indoctrinated. In fact, I came to this view by dismissing all my indoctrinations in life and found the source of my being on my own. It was when I let everything go and started again as a child, which I still am, that I arrived at these views in my own heart.

I do not belittle you for your views, so why do you feel the need to belittle me for mine. You do not know anything about me, yet you judge anyway. Why?

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by IAMIAM


For someone saying they were not on crusade on a Internet message board to get they're opinion across, I would say that was a bold face lie. Dont you sleep? Jeez, this must be pretty exciting for you.

Well your staying outta trouble..

I think the world is to complex, for your U topic Idea, especially the way your trying to sell it to people. Which post exactly is the final warning by they way?