Is this 9/11 nonsense going to ever go away? ZERO eveidence but still pushing on!

Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
When is this so called "truth" movement and conspiracy talk going to end?

considering there is 0% proof then or now Jesus ever walked this earth, yet people are still buying into that literally 3000 years later id say the 911 truth movement well be the "JFK conspiracy" of this century.

reply to post by dereks

you Dereks at least you read it a touch but obviously not very much as that is not what i am doing at all...it might be to indepth for you to analyze my friend but i know by your short stabbing remarks that you haven't got a clue, as you would realize the connections in there to the inside of the goverment and you would also know about all the JEWS that are against ZIONISM big difference but then it does take some intelligence to realize the difference and if you had bothered to read indepth you would realize that there are JEWISH viewpoints in there also...so Dereks...YET again you prove your Ignorance on all subjects at hand.

What is nice to see with you Dereks is that you are consistantly ignorant to yourself and others so i bet you watch a lot of television that has no relevance....Knowledge is not only learned ...it is also earned through understanding.

but there is hope for you...and people should never give up on exposing the truth just cause others want to reamin hidden in their safe little worlds where the threat is no so real for them and leave the work to people who are willing to take the consequences of their actions from the same people who they try to expose.

But then by just saying "you are blaming JEWS" does tell me alot of what you understand and that you are completey fed all your thought through the MSM. So if you want some advice(which i know you don't) turn off your television. Cause if you had one ounce of a clue it is run by the same Zionist Elite that i am working to expose......

NOTE: One more thing you call these people JEWS which alot are not.....I call them Criminals

what a bunch of idiots.

you all think somebody in the mountains with a towel on his head financed the most elaborate attack on the greatest nation known to man that has no fly zones.

and you cant find him?!

crazy, i say just crazy.

&thats just an understatement.

Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
reply to post by GoldenFleece

 

I did read that thread an that Exponent it was old news to a few. A lot of what you gathered was just of the NET. Some ok points and some conjecture. I know Exponent very well and there is nothing untoward about this company any more than some other companies. I know their Yorkshire offices very well thank you. this company being an expert in its field will often be called upon for a variety of things. I like Expo very much. I like their work in fact.

Well isn't THAT interesting! A couple days after I post a thread about the enormous and influential Exponent Failure Analysis Associates -- which no one says they've ever known to have investigated JFK, OKC and 9/11 -- YOU show up to start a counter-thread that basically says nothing except to rant about "9/11 nonsense" and "ZERO evidence", but inexplicably, the thread receives 34 flags and rockets to the front page of ATS?

And you think I'm being paranoid? So what else you got? Maybe you know exponent the 9/11 debunker?

Originally posted by Cobra.EXE
you all think somebody in the mountains with a towel on his head financed the most elaborate attack on the greatest nation known to man that has no fly zones.

and you cant find him?!

Better than that. They don't even want him!

FBI says it has “No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11”

It's funny how many debunkers simply ignore the fact that the doj never formally charged obl with 9/11 and the fact that the director of the fbi has said publicly that they don't know the id's of the hijackers.

reply to post by L1U2C3I4F5E6R


I can't even bare to read your posts let alone try to make sense of what you believe to be 'logic' and 'understanding.' Obviously you're just another troll with nothing more than your own agenda behind making this thread - albeit to start an argument which has been going on for a while between truthers and the believers of the OS or maybe simply to vent some frustration and make a thread about it in hopes that you can make yourself feel better by using the internet to manipulate your own self.

Either way, the OP has provided nothing to prove a word she's said. You can try to debunk anything you wish with words but it will not work - especially using words the way you have from the OP through out this whole thread with your posts.

Before you try to start an argument about something, try learning all the facts that you can with an open mind.

The best debate is done with a point of view that looks in all directions rather than in one.

It sounds to myself, and probably everyone else, that you have made up your mind on the subject of 9/11 and decided to go fully at the 'truthers' (whom you conclude many things about without knowing each individual by the way). It's pretty dumb to lump everything into one category, especially a group of people who share a common goal - just because Joe Truther believes that planes were not used in the 9/11 attacks doesn't mean that Bob Truther believes the same thing.

The problem we face most of all is aligning what little facts we have together and supporting one another in our investigation to find the truth. We all have our beliefs and reasons for having them, but when it comes down to it there is reasons to suspect something is wrong with what we were told about 9/11, in the OS, on the news etc... if you actually took the time to look over all of these things you'd see so much of it doesn't add up.

One thing on the news would be reported as another news agency was saying something else. One video would show footage of an airplane coming from one direction and the other footage another. There's people who swore they heard bombs go off prior to the planes crashing... The list goes on and so does the number of people who believe that we have yet to hear the truth.

I truly hope you learn to open your mind and see the truth for what it is - we all have our own perception and you're allowed to have your own, but to allow yourself to be manipulated by the government and the MSM is something you need to deal with on a personal level - it's not something that anyone can make you believe, it's something you need to look into for yourself. If you truly care about what happened on 9/11 you will look at all angles before making a final decision.

Good luck.

reply to post by L1U2C3I4F5E6R


Fantastic OP!

I personally hate the fact that the vast majority of the Truther "evidence" is faith based.

Typical conversation with a Truther:

Me: So, you realise it looks nothing like a controlled demo?
Truther: That's because they used special technology.
Me: What proof do you have of that?
Truther A: Look at the easily debunkable YouTube video/Blog - I don't understand it, but it convinced me.
Truther B (the most common answer): Don't you know about AIPAC/Follow the money/I just KNOW it was an implosion.

It's just absurd.

And their faith is like any other, once it's been shown to be illogical they just recede into a friendly echo-chamber.

All of a sudden, as far as they're concerned, the whole world is a truther, there's more evidence everyday, etc. None of which is vaguely true.

Sad sad sad.

And now I'll be labeled a shill.

I've read the 9/11 commission report and it's quite basically just a retelling of the events of that day. It's hardly an investigation. If I remember correctly there was no mention of who funded the attacks. Very strange....

Also it's quite telling that the 9/11 commission report was released in a graphic novel form. That should tell you all you need to know about the American population at large! That an official government report has to be released in a graphic novel for the masses to be able to comprehend and digest it. Because they can't possibly pick up a book and read.

Originally posted by Kram09
I've read the 9/11 commission report and it's quite basically just a retelling of the events of that day. It's hardly an investigation. If I remember correctly there was no mention of who funded the attacks. Very strange....

Also it's quite telling that the 9/11 commission report was released in a graphic novel form. That should tell you all you need to know about the American population at large! That an official government report has to be released in a graphic novel for the masses to be able to comprehend and digest it. Because they can't possibly pick up a book and read.

Umm... The report was a report about the investigation, it wasn't, "the investigation".

The funding #, totally agree... that's where some of the real corruption is, protecting our Saudi Oil Royalty and their US workforce (i.e. Dick Cheney, BushCo, etc.).

Originally posted by jazabel51
reply to post by L1U2C3I4F5E6R

 

i say-the fact that 9-11 theorys arent going away could mean where there is smoke there is fire...

There is truth in that expression.

Still, that approach is used to validate the never-ending Kenyan BC hunt.

If the smoke is self-generated by a group of individuals with an agenda, zero facts, and bogus findings, does that still mean there is a fire raging somewhere or that there are groups of people that wish there was?

I don't know, it's a fine line there.

- Lee

reply to post by flamingmonkey


So it was just a report of a report?

What?

So what was the actual investigation? Why so much fuss about the 9/11 commission report?

Originally posted by helium3

Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R
When is this so called "truth" movement and conspiracy talk going to end?

considering there is 0% proof then or now Jesus ever walked this earth, yet people are still buying into that literally 3000 years later id say the 911 truth movement well be the "JFK conspiracy" of this century.

JFK is STILL huge!!!

reply to post by Kram09


Reports don't say, typically, "we went here and asked these people this and then we went there, etc". The 9/11 commission report is detailed explanation of the events on 9/11, which they pieced together during their investigation,

The big stink comes from a few things:

Some of the people involved didn't like the way that people like Bush weren't forced to testify under oath (and yet many of them wanna re-elect Republicans... go figure). Others, like you and I, wish that the funding angle hadn't been blacked out.

Others think that because the report contradicts their beliefs, it's BS.

The American Government has experimented and killed citizens for DECADES. They allowed the Bombing at Pearl Harbor. Why do you not think that a Government that could do stuff like that, put poison in it's food, and have a corrupt Pharmaceutical industry would not allow an attack to happen or help arrange it? Theremite was found. Altered and in ways and quantities that would have to be done in labs. We will never get the full story.

Originally posted by L1U2C3I4F5E6R

We all SAW what we SAW. That day will be remembered by many. But thanks to the "truthers" movement the real tragedy is getting overlooked by a few people who are unsure of what they saw or what they were told.

Someone asked me to prove that the OS is correct. I don't need to because that's the story.

Truth is subjective at best and is only the truth if people believe it to be.

edit on 123030p://f27Monday by L1U2C3I4F5E6R because: spelling

So using your logic - you believe that when a stage magician cuts a woman in half and she still lives when the magician has her in two separate pieces and then puts her back together again and she's still alive, the magician ACTUALLY cut her in half.

Just because you "SAW what you SAW" does not mean what you saw "CANNOT" be illusory.

You really should examine the implications of the logic behind your statements before you post them.

The real crazy thing is how many people in here are taking this lucifer girl seriously.
Her attitude, statements, way of thinking, satanic praise... is not worth wasting your costy time.

Someone who claims there is zero evidence for the "truthers" story is simply IGNORING everything.
There are many many things that actually proof that the truthers are not only right in asking questions forever. They MUST do it because there is absolutely LESS evidence for the OS story than there is evidence for the conspiracy theories!! And we must fight those endless lies to be free finally.

And the answer to the original post's question is: NO. The truth will never go away no matter what.

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“You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.”
- Michael Levy

“The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is.”
- Winston Churchill

“Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance.”
- W. Clement Stone

“All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.”
- Galileo Galilei

"First they ignore you; then they mock you; then they punish you; then you win."
- Gandhi

I am not defending the OP but the CONCEPT of Satan/Shaitan and Lucifer are two different things. Regardless to the validity of them ever existing the archetypes of both entities are different. Just thought I would throw that out there.

reply to post by mrMasterJoe


You know you are absolutely right.

Great lucid post.

I hate to admit it but the OP actually irked me despite the obvious lack of logic involved in the original post.

Don't you just hate it when you get sucked in!!!!!!

Originally posted by Neo 1960
reply to post by Alfie1

 

Don't you think it's just the tiniest bit strange that NINE YEARS after causing the greatest ever terrorist outrage, probably never to be exceeded, (unless they get hold of a nuke), that no other attacks have occurred in the US, to them the great Satan?
Are we really supposed to believe that Bin Laden has spent the last NINE YEARS trembling in some cave, apart from making his few home movies? The IRA with far fewer numbers and resources never let up their bombing campaign and while they would happily kill for their cause they (unlike Al Qaeda), would not die for it.
There has not even been any foiled attacks! Also how on earth, in 2010 does anyone, let alone someone as well known as Bin Laden keep hidden for NINE YEARS (no apologies for capitals). He would have found years ago or even betrayed, bearing in mind the huge bounty on his head.
Sometimes it's not what happens that arouses suspicion, it's what doesn't happen.

What do you mean there haven't been any " foiled attacks " ? What about Richard Reid ( the shoe bomber ) ? What about the Detroit bomber ( he of the exploding underwear ) ? What about these guys ?

www.telegraph.co.uk...