Question: Why do we have to pay to live on a planet we were born on?

Originally posted by brutalsun
I've always pondered the same question. Why do I have to pay for things that are necessary to life? I'm not talking about extravagances I'm talking about the 4 basics; shelter, water, food, fire(warmth).

Here's my idea. Based on the fact that very few people are needed to produce these basic things. So - we devise a system were we all get them, and we all share the work (very little for all) for them. Rest of the time - free to do whatever you want. Work to build yourself a palace, I don't care. Each with his passion.

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A better question is why do we have to pay other men and women to live here..WHEN THEY WERE BORN HERE TOO? I mean come on, their butler puts their pants on them one leg at a time just like.....oh.....wait. SH*T!

Originally posted by pai mei

Originally posted by brutalsun
I've always pondered the same question. Why do I have to pay for things that are necessary to life? I'm not talking about extravagances I'm talking about the 4 basics; shelter, water, food, fire(warmth).

Here's my idea. Based on the fact that very few people are needed to produce these basic things. So - we devise a system were we all get them, and we all share the work (very little for all) for them. Rest of the time - free to do whatever you want. Work to build yourself a palace, I don't care. Each with his passion.

paimei01.blogspot.com...

Yeah, a lot of us out there living in palaces LOL, are YOU one of them and don't even know it? Look at the rest of the world, people suffer whi;e the ones who we pay to live here .....live lavishly. Very rarely does ANYONE who is blue collar......live according to his passion, we pay THEM almost every damn dime we make and can barely even feed our families Certainly there are no palaces. Good Grief.

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communion (with somebody/something) (formal)
the state of sharing or exchanging thoughts and feelings; the feeling of being part of something


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This guy actually believes he is in contact with aliens. I don't think I'll take anything he has to say seriously.

And yes, I watched the video and all I saw was a guy that has schizophrenia or is an uber troll.

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reply to post by TheOneEyedProphet


You are another awakened one.......thank you for your post.

Yes, you can see by many of the posts that many people are apathetic, mad at someone trying to nudge them awake or just hopelessly throwing their hands up and saying oh well, let's just keep going along the way we're going.

I would be entirely content to live near a fresh water supply, with a tent and the basics, interfering with no one and taking only from nature what I need to live.

Yet in the urban jungle I am trapped in, there is no way to achieve this.

Not capable enough (yet) to fully escape this concrete society and survive out bush, but not content to continue to be trapped for nothing more than being born.

The law seems to go out of it's way to expunge anyone caught camping even near the beach. Live by the rules of society and live simply to work and pay taxes and die in 80 years a slave to greed, or die cold in a gutter after 5 free.

Modern society... meh.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective


Thank you for your post, coming from you this is a true honor as I have read many of your intellegent thoughts on various threads.

The key is if enough of us would awaken and climb out of our matrix beds and stop feeding the very system that is hell bent on making us slaves.

Your post and some of the others is hopeful that many are waking up to how ludicris this whole system is.

The point is that even though you are free to live FROM the land, you are not free to live ON the land.

Every square inch of our planet has been "claimed" as property by either a private institute or a government, and in order to be allowed to live on that land, you have to fulfill certain obligations.

It's the contract you get born into as soon as your parents sign your birth certificate and state the country (company) you are born in.

Originally posted by tigpoppa
I really liked the unity and meaning behind the post. The video is very thought provoking and I wish the world could be this way. These things are free though so I dont see why people think were getting charged.

There are some problems and let me just share with you why we pay money for things like water and electricity.


Why does water cost money?
Purification costs money. The pipes and the maintenance guys who work on them have families to feed like you do so that is why it costs money.

You are free to drink water from the ocean or any river, the thing is it isnt good for you and contains harmful bacteria. Noone charges you of course for doing this yourself or collecting your own supply in rain barrels.

Why does electricity cost money?

Electricity costs money because of the grid and the substations and all the technology and human effort that goes from getting it from point a to point b.

Electricity is free once you install your own electric collection devices like wind or solar power, in fact government subsidies encourage this so anyone interested should look into it.

A well can be drank from without purification thanks to good ol mother earth. But you must receive permission to drill for said well or have water rights to do so.

Electricity isn't a necessity it's a luxury, while it does keep your food in optimal condition and it can keep you warm/cool, it is not necessary to live and therefore not needed.

reply to post by MonteroReal


Yes I lived and worked on a farm for about ten years.

Milked the cows, cleaned out the barns.

Fed and watered the cows, sheep and chickens.

Helped mend fences.

Drove a tractor.

Harvested tomatos.

And some other stuff.....................how about you?

PS: My mother died when I was ten and I went from an inner city to a rural farm.

I know how to live off the land.

Because We Wanted a KING, a Ruler if you will. We wanted thousands of years ago to be protected and provided for. That is the short answer.

Humans come together in a society. Each individual contributes to the society in which the population flourishes. Each individual sometimes possess a special skill that others dont. Lets say a college education perhaps. This individual is skilled in many attributes therefore, as a result, is paid more.

Just as others have said. In a society, members must contribute to the whole of the community. Otherwise the community will fail. (Reminds me of socialism)

Humans are social beings and usually come together as a community for safety, convenience, and companionship. Some, TPTB, is what you call it. Aliens or whatever you want to call them, are corrupted when having an advantage over another. To me, thats just another flaw in the human condition. Power and greed corrupts. Its as plain and simple as that.

Why does it have to be aliens? I think humans are evil enough on their own to sh!t on people for their own personal interests.

I think pointing to aliens for the worlds problems is a way for people to avoid looking in the mirror and no different than saying "The devil made me do it."

This guy is lying, pretty convinced.

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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Yes I lived and worked on a farm for about ten years.

Milked the cows, cleaned out the barns.

Fed and watered the cows, sheep and chickens.

appreciate your concerns, thanks.... but don't be too judgmental in deciding who is awake and who is not... nobody is awake unless everyone is....

now... how would you have reacted if i replied to your a/m post from such an angle....

en.wikipedia.org...

Google Video Link

and this one goes out to the vegans....

reply to post by ofhumandescent


There is something along the magnitude of 5x10^92 molecules in the universe. I see no reason why anybody has the right to anything beyond the molecules that run their body at any given time and the things one has made with those molecules. Man did not make the seas and the sky, so man has no ownership over them.

reply to post by BlackOps719


Very insightful post.

But, we need to change this system, if but for no other reason than for our children and our children's children.

Can't keep going on like this.

reply to post by topdog30


My last post to you was rude and I am openingly apologizing to you for my remarks.

I still stand by what I said but I shouldn't have been so rude in my reply.

I love the people that are saying " he thinks hes in contact with aliens I dont believe him"

It does not matter if he is lying about that or not people, what don't you understand? The message he is telling you is very serious, you are complaining about an issue that does not change the final outcome, WE ALL NEED TO CHANGE.

Now if I believe he is in contact with aliens or not is irrelevant, he is obviously a great thinker, and I consider intelligent, at least enough to understand the situation we all are living under and the importance of spreading that message.

S&F